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The blind faith of the evolutionists

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It's such a strange idea that God would be quiet for millennia, and then suddenly finally make himself obvious and available, but only those who believed without evidence for all that time before are valid to enter God's kingdom. It's a very a--h--- move. Why is it so important to God that we believe in him, right now, without evidence? And on top of that, there's a bunch of arguments done that we are supposed to take as evidence for God. So which is it? Is God leaving obvious and clear evidence for his existence (like throwing a great party and tell us that he exists and makes it obvious to everyone) or is he not (and it all depends on faith)? It's a very mixed message here. If God is leaving us evidence for his existence, then that evidence is currently very poor. He could do a better job. But if it all depends on that we believe without having sufficient evidence and when God shows himself seeing-and-believing suddenly doesn't matter (only blind faith), then why would God supposedly leave any evidence at all? Can't he be clear about this? Faith without evidence--then there shouldn't be anything and we shouldn't argue if there is any, or Faith with evidence--then there should be abundant and extremely clear (God should come make the sun come up from the West right now).

The last sign which is the sunrise from the west isn't made as to be an evidence but it is the sign of the last hour which will be accompanied with horrific events and all will believe but Repentance won't be accepted.

There are many signs,but disbelievers refuse them all,saying that one was coincidence,the other was a lie or not a clear sign ...and so on and so forth.
 
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Farrukh

Active Member
It's such a strange idea that God would be quiet for millennia, and then suddenly finally make himself obvious and available, but only those who believed without evidence for all that time before are valid to enter God's kingdom. It's a very a--h--- move. Why is it so important to God that we believe in him, right now, without evidence? And on top of that, there's a bunch of arguments done that we are supposed to take as evidence for God. So which is it? Is God leaving obvious and clear evidence for his existence (like throwing a great party and tell us that he exists and makes it obvious to everyone) or is he not (and it all depends on faith)? It's a very mixed message here. If God is leaving us evidence for his existence, then that evidence is currently very poor. He could do a better job. But if it all depends on that we believe without having sufficient evidence and when God shows himself seeing-and-believing suddenly doesn't matter (only blind faith), then why would God supposedly leave any evidence at all? Can't he be clear about this? Faith without evidence--then there shouldn't be anything and we shouldn't argue if there is any, or Faith with evidence--then there should be abundant and extremely clear (God should come make the sun come up from the West right now).

Quran is clear evidence of God's existence, it is not possible for some human being to write such type of book from his intellect.
 

McBell

Unbound
But that isn't a good example for evolution...
Actually, it is a classic text book example of evolution.

The problem here is that you do not know what evolution is.

Do you think the evolution of species from one kind to another is caused by a single mutation or multiple mutations that occurred several times through millions of years.

I think that you need to learn what evolution is and define your term "kind" in a manner that is meaningful and useful outside your mythology.
 

McBell

Unbound
Quran is clear evidence of God's existence, it is not possible for some human being to write such type of book from his intellect.

This is nothing more than a bold empty claim based on wishful thinking.

Unless you have something other than circular reasoning and or argument from incredulity...
 

Farrukh

Active Member
Scientists discovered many years ago that the earth gives off a pulse. This pulse or frequency which has been likened to a heartbeat has been stable at approximately 7.8 cycles per second for thousands of years. However, since around the year 1980 the earth’s heartbeat began to speed up. It has currently been measured at 12 cycles per second but the most incredible thing is some scientists believe the earth will actually stop rotating when this pulse reaches 13 cycles per second. When the earth stops rotating on its axis it is believed that it will remain still for around 3 days and then start spinning in the other direction. This will cause a reversal in the magnetic field around the earth but what will happen after this point is unclear. At this point you are thinking one of two things. Either you are thinking this sounds pretty amazing or you simply cannot believe it. I’m kind of in the middle myself, I think it’s hard to believe but I’m prepared to keep an open mind. Since I have become interested in spirituality I have seen wonderful things happen in my life and because of this I believe almost anything is possible.

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this thing is exactly as mentioned in Hadith, sun will rise after three night from west.
 

McBell

Unbound
Scientists discovered many years ago that the earth gives off a pulse. This pulse or frequency which has been likened to a heartbeat has been stable at approximately 7.8 cycles per second for thousands of years. However, since around the year 1980 the earth’s heartbeat began to speed up. It has currently been measured at 12 cycles per second but the most incredible thing is some scientists believe the earth will actually stop rotating when this pulse reaches 13 cycles per second. When the earth stops rotating on its axis it is believed that it will remain still for around 3 days and then start spinning in the other direction. This will cause a reversal in the magnetic field around the earth but what will happen after this point is unclear. At this point you are thinking one of two things. Either you are thinking this sounds pretty amazing or you simply cannot believe it. I’m kind of in the middle myself, I think it’s hard to believe but I’m prepared to keep an open mind. Since I have become interested in spirituality I have seen wonderful things happen in my life and because of this I believe almost anything is possible.

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this thing is exactly as mentioned in Hadith, sun will rise after three night from west.

What does this have to do with evolution?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
There are many signs,but disbelievers refuse them all,saying that one was coincidence,the other was a lie or not a clear sign ...and so on and so forth.

Don't you wonder why it is so easy to disregard so many signs?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
What does this have to do with evolution?

Atheists deny God existence and hence they have a blind faith that life evolved millions of years ago without the need of God.

We were talking that Islam as a religion have signs and the Quran is one and one of the greatest sign of all signs is the rotation of earth clockwise instead of counter-clockwise,which have to happen at one point of time in the near future
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Atheists deny God existence and hence they have a blind faith that life evolved millions of years ago without the need of ID.

Sorry, FearGod, but that is not a fair representation of how things happen.

We have access to research, by way of qualified profesionals if need be. It is not a matter of faith.


We were talking that Islam as a religion have signs and the Quran is one and one of the greatest sign of all signs is the rotation of earth clockwise instead of counter-clockwise,which have to happen at one point of time in the near future

That is a matter of faith, and one that does not really connect with Evolution in any way that I can see.
 

Iti oj

Global warming is real and we need to act
Premium Member
I've seen the Jesus toast its you who are denying the signs muahsh
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Quran is clear evidence of God's existence, it is not possible for some human being to write such type of book from his intellect.

That's all? That's all God could muster up to provide as evidence? A book? It doesn't matter if it's the most amazing book on the planet or not, just that God can't do more than that is shocking.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Or maybe it is a clear indication that God does not mind if many people won't believe in his existence.

And after all, why would he? He is supposed to be God, after all. Not an elected politician or anything.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I wouldn't word that quite that way, but yes, it amounts to much that question.

I wonder as well that millions of people smoke cigarettes even though that science confirms that it is harmful to health and it is amazing that many doctors do smoke too.:shrug:
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I wonder as well that millions of people smoke cigarettes even though that science confirms that it is harmful to health and it is amazing that many doctors do smoke too.:shrug:

So you see it as a matter of choosing to do the right thing? Is that what you mean?

You would be surprised.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
That's all? That's all God could muster up to provide as evidence? A book? It doesn't matter if it's the most amazing book on the planet or not, just that God can't do more than that is shocking.

As i said there are many signs other than the quran but it is neglected by many people with their excuses that it was a coincidence or a lie,propaganda ..etc
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
As i said there are many signs other than the quran but it is neglected by many people with their excuses that it was a coincidence or a lie,propaganda ..etc

Or most often, they just don't find the signs at all convincing.

One wonders why God would make it possible if he did not approve of it.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So you see it as a matter of choosing to do the right thing? Is that what you mean?

You would be surprised.

Smoking isn't a right choice,all evidences and signs prove that cigarette is harmful for health,but many reject those evidences and signs.

But about your question about wondering,yes i am wondering but i don't know why people sometime reject one thing in order to do something else even though it may cause harm to themselves.
 
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