The blind faith of the evolutionists

[FearGod]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6299F3195349CCDA&feature=plcp

Free entire class from Yale university on evolutionary biology.

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Why not giving your own opinion and view.

The question is very simple,one species had lived for a long period of time and was extincted for unknown reasons but just guesses,as if it was asteroids then why not the others extincted as well.

I think they breath the same ,eat the same and why monkeys survived and chimps,why homo erectus ???

I believe if there is no scientific and rational answers then yes it is a blind faith.

 

[Iti oj]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Why not giving your own opinion and view.

The question is very simple,one species had lived for a long period of time and was extincted for unknown reasons but just guesses,as if it was asteroids then why not the others extincted as well.

I think they breath the same ,eat the same and why monkeys survived and chimps,why homo erectus ???

I believe if there is no scientific and rational answers then yes it is a blind faith.

Does the exact reason matter? What of all the other species that went extinct?

 

[outhouse]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

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yes he/she should


This person refuses credible knowledge and education, in favor of blind faith.


Also known as wilful ignorance. That is something no debate will cure.

 

[Ouroboros]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Why not giving your own opinion and view.

The question is very simple,one species had lived for a long period of time and was extincted for unknown reasons but just guesses,as if it was asteroids then why not the others extincted as well.

I think they breath the same ,eat the same and why monkeys survived and chimps,why homo erectus ???

I believe if there is no scientific and rational answers then yes it is a blind faith.

You're defending ignorance and then presenting it.

 

[outhouse]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6299F3195349CCDA&feature=plcp

Free entire class from Yale university on evolutionary biology.

Bump for reality clubbing ignorance :yes:

 

[outhouse]

The Piltdown Man was a paleoanthropological hoax in which bone fragments were presented as the fossilised remains of a previously unknown early human.

Please read more

The Piltdown Man, 1912

So because the media exploited scientist, and scientist corrected the exploitation,


All scientist findings are invalid? like the science used in your computer? or used in medicine when you have an emergency? That science is hypocritically no good as well?

 

[Falvlun]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Why not giving your own opinion and view.

The question is very simple,one species had lived for a long period of time and was extincted for unknown reasons but just guesses,as if it was asteroids then why not the others extincted as well.

I think they breath the same ,eat the same and why monkeys survived and chimps,why homo erectus ???

I believe if there is no scientific and rational answers then yes it is a blind faith.

Animals are going extinct all the time. We have many more on the endangered species list. And yet, there are others that are doing just fine.

Each species tends to have unique requirements and capabilities. Not all monkeys eat the same things; and monkeys certainly eat different things then lizards, etc. Also, some monkeys could climb trees, while other species couldn't. If the threat was on the forest floor, then being able to climb trees would be a great advantage. Some species can survive a greater range of temperature than other species. Some species can live in a greater range of habitats or on a greater range of food. Think of the pandas. If their supply of bamboo is wiped out, then they are toast. Now think of rats. If they lose their supply of bird eggs, well, they can then go dine on some rotting fish instead. No big deal.

There's really not much perplexing about the idea that some species can survive a disaster while others cannot.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Bump for reality clubbing ignorance :yes:

Too bad all we'll see of it is reality-clubbing ignorance.

 

[outhouse]

Too bad all we'll see of it is reality-clubbing ignorance.

You cannot drag every mule to water. Hell some you cant even point in the right direction.

 

[Ouroboros]

You cannot drag every mule to water. Hell some you cant even point in the right direction.

No. That would be considered childish and silly by the mule.

 

[FearGod]

You're defending ignorance and then presenting it.

Actually i didn't see any rational answrs for his question.

What you have is guesses,that isn't science.

Maybe asteriods,maybe ice age,maybe foods.

Do you call that science ?
Show us exactly what happened and not just guesses and wishful thinking.

If asking how the world started,then one primitive cell,isn't it guessing.
Do you call it science ?

If we asked,how that single cell came to existence,then the environment,water,oxygen ...endless guesses.

Then the usual silly stereotype,read some books,study biology,you don't know the basics of evolution,we know exactly how it happened.

Even the video in the OP showes how ignorants they looked like,
their answers,mmmm i don't know.,,,,mmmmm thousands thousands of years,mmm millions.

How ridiculous indeed.

 

[metis]

Science works on the basis of evidence, so we can't make claims of certainty in areas whereas there can be some doubts at least about the details. This is not a weakness of science but actually its strength. We don't jump to conclusions. We don't put "faith" in beliefs that cannot be verified. We are willing to change if evidence takes us in a different direction. We don't believe in "absolute facts".

But isn't it just a tad hypocritical for one to insist that we believe in things without a ton of evidence to support it coming from those who believe in a deity or deities whereas there literally no objectively-derived evidence to indicate that such a deity or deities actually exist? How can they insist we must have proof and yet they believe something without even any evidence beyond books written thousands of years by authors they really don't know?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Why not giving your own opinion and view.

The question is very simple,one species had lived for a long period of time and was extincted for unknown reasons but just guesses,as if it was asteroids then why not the others extincted as well.

I think they breath the same ,eat the same and why monkeys survived and chimps,why homo erectus ???

I believe if there is no scientific and rational answers then yes it is a blind faith.

Why not? It's what other people who actually want to learn things do.

 

[outhouse]

What you have is guesses,that isn't science.

Science observes and reports. It does not prove anything.


Your just showing severe ignornace of the scientific methods used today.

Maybe asteriods,maybe ice age,maybe foods.

Maybe what? Are you talking about abiogenesis?


Stat another thread because evolution does not deal with how life started.

Do you call that science ?

Does mythology give us better answers for how life evolved? :slap:

Show us exactly what happened and not just guesses and wishful thinking.

YES please show us how your mythology happened, not just guesses.

If asking how the world started,then one primitive cell,isn't it guessing.
Do you call it science ?

Life evolved from a common ancestor. This is fact. So yes it is science.


Having a deity create two humans 6000 years ago, which is factually impossible to start a breeding population, makes better sense???

Is that science or mythology????????????????

If we asked,how that single cell came to existence,then the environment,water,oxygen ...endless guesses.

And all you have is mythology instead of even TRYING to find REAL answers.

Then the usual silly stereotype,read some books,study biology,you don't know the basics of evolution, we know exactly how it happened.

No you dont know how anything happened, you have faith in mythology in theology.

OP showes how ignorants they looked like

:biglaugh:


You cannot attack science from a point of scientific and general wilful ignorance.


I dont have the best grammer, but before you attack modern scientific facts, any chance you could learn how to write properly first?

 

[Ouroboros]

Actually i didn't see any rational answrs for his question.

You didn't read the answers then.

What you have is guesses,that isn't science.

A scientific guess is more accurate than a faith based guess.

Maybe asteriods,maybe ice age,maybe foods.

Fact 1: We have the fossils (skeletons, skulls, etc) from H.e. so we know they used to exist once a long time ago
Fact 2: We know the time range they existed and that they don't exist anymore
Fact 3: They are now extinct
Fact 4: They were homonoid, bipedal, and were different from us
Fact 5: We don't have to know the exact reasons to why they disappeared since we know that they disappeared after having existed.

Do you call that science ?

Hang on. Do you want to do science? Then I have to do the silly thing to suggest to you that you take a science class!!! We can't do "science" in a forum. Since it's been pointed out to me that I can't recommend you or anyone else to take a class, read a book, or do some research, then there's no "science" to be had in this thread. We can only do discussion and opinions and sharing views, nothing else. If you want science, then you have to do some effort.

Show us exactly what happened and not just guesses and wishful thinking.

We can't.

I can admit what I don't know. That doesn't make science anything less than science.

This is the reason why I keep on telling people to pick up and book and do some research on their own!!! I don't know everything. I can give you what I think and know, but I'm limited. If I don't have an answer, your response is "Oh, you don't know, so therefore Evolution is false, muahaha!!!" Now if anything is silly and childish, that is.

If asking how the world started,then one primitive cell,isn't it guessing.
Do you call it science ?

H.e. was a primitive cell? Jumping much?

If we asked,how that single cell came to existence,then the environment,water,oxygen ...endless guesses.

Yup. We have to do educated guesses right now. But that has nothing to do with if H.e. existed and became extinct or not, or the reasons to why.

Then the usual silly stereotype,read some books,study biology,you don't know the basics of evolution,we know exactly how it happened.

So... you don't want to do the effort.

But you want me to tell you what scientists know.

If I don't know the answer, then somehow science is at fault.

Uhm... yeah.

Even the video in the OP showes how ignorants they looked like,
their answers,mmmm i don't know.,,,,mmmmm thousands thousands of years,mmm millions.

It's a fact that Earth is very old and that millions of species have existed in the past that are now extinct. That's a fact. Not a guess.

How ridiculous indeed.

Riiiiiiight.........

Can I ask, are you the same guy as "Call_of_the_wild"? You sound just like him. If you are, then I can put you on ignore as well.

 

[dust1n]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Why not giving your own opinion and view.

The question is very simple,one species had lived for a long period of time and was extincted for unknown reasons but just guesses,as if it was asteroids then why not the others extincted as well.

I think they breath the same ,eat the same and why monkeys survived and chimps,why homo erectus ???

I believe if there is no scientific and rational answers then yes it is a blind faith.

Good for ya. I don't purport to understand all the intricacies of the entirety of biology. If it serves your blind faith to think of others having blind faith, go for it. I don't care. I provided a resource.

 

[gnostic]

Should Feargod enroll in college and study biology to find a rational answer by himself.

Definitely.

You can't learn biology in the Qur'an or Bible, because neither of these scriptures are books of science.

The Qur'an doesn't EXPLAIN anything with regarding to human anatomy and physiology, let alone that of other biological life forms, like animals, plants or bacteria.

Some Muslims quoting single verse or two from the Qur'an doesn't amount to an explanation, and the majority of quoted verses used are scientifically incorrect. These Muslims who used the Qur'an as a science book, not only make them ignorant fools, but perpetrate wilful ignorance and the worse form of pseudoscience. The Qur'an certainly doesn't teach people biology. The Muslims of today, have not made any worthwhile discoveries in science or technology, and are jealous, so they desperately resorted to lies, misinformation and propaganda, by twisting the contexts of selected Qur'anic verses, so they can take credits of modern science.

Among those who resort to such childish and petty tactics, is Naik Zakir, one of the worse of the bunch.

When Muslims were ahead of all other civilisations, during the 9th to 15th centuries, they actually learned and rediscover science through reading ancient scientific texts from Greece and Rome, or made new discoveries themselves, in the fields of mathematics, medicine, astronomy, architecture, technology, etc. All their works, discoveries or rediscoveries come from hard works, from their own efforts, and from their curiosity of the natural world or natural phenomenon, not from their Qur'an. That's what I admired about the Muslim scientists and mathematicians back then, they have distinguished themselves from their works, not from their personal religious beliefs, and not because of the Qur'an.

So yes, if feargod wanted to learn and understand biology, then he should get the required education from college or university. If he can't do that, then he should buy a textbook on biology, and read and educate himself. Educating yourself and finding or understanding evidences that are available, is far better than wilful ignorance or accepting Qur'an, prophet or god on blind faith.

 

[shawn001]

Actually i didn't see any rational answrs for his question.

What you have is guesses,that isn't science.

Maybe asteriods,maybe ice age,maybe foods.

Do you call that science ?
Show us exactly what happened and not just guesses and wishful thinking.

If asking how the world started,then one primitive cell,isn't it guessing.
Do you call it science ?

If we asked,how that single cell came to existence,then the environment,water,oxygen ...endless guesses.

Then the usual silly stereotype,read some books,study biology,you don't know the basics of evolution,we know exactly how it happened.

Even the video in the OP showes how ignorants they looked like,
their answers,mmmm i don't know.,,,,mmmmm thousands thousands of years,mmm millions.

How ridiculous indeed.

"Show us exactly what happened and not just guesses and wishful thinking."

LOL

And who is us?

 

[shawn001]

Here is some info.

"Species

While the exact number of early human species is debated, on this page are links to summaries of the early human species accepted by most scientists. Click on any species to learn more about it.

Below the summaries is a chart showing the time span during which fossils of each species have been found."

Species | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

Homo erectus

"Where Lived: Northern, Eastern, and Southern Africa; Western Asia (Dmanisi, Republic of Georgia); East Asia (China and Indonesia)
When Lived: Between about 1.89 million and 143,000 years ago"

"Early African Homo erectus fossils (sometimes called Homo ergaster) are the oldest known early humans to have possessed modern human-like body proportions with relatively elongated legs and shorter arms compared to the size of the torso. These features are considered adaptations to a life lived on the ground, indicating the loss of earlier tree-climbing adaptations, with the ability to walk and possibly run long distances. Compared with earlier fossil humans, note the expanded braincase relative to the size of the face. The most complete fossil individual of this species is known as the ‘Turkana Boy’ – a well-preserved skeleton (though minus almost all the hand and foot bones), dated around 1.6 million years old. Microscopic study of the teeth indicates that he grew up at a growth rate similar to that of a great ape. There is fossil evidence that this species cared for old and weak individuals. The appearance of Homo erectus in the fossil record is often associated with the earliest handaxes, the first major innovation in stone tool technology.

Early fossil discoveries from Java (beginning in the 1890s) and China (‘Peking Man’, beginning in the 1920s) comprise the classic examples of this species. Generally considered to have been the first species to have expanded beyond Africa, Homo erectus is considered a highly variable species, spread over two continents (it's not certain whether it reached Europe), and possibly the longest lived early human species - about nine times as long as our own species, Homo sapiens, has been around!"

Homo erectus

There is more information on the page as well.

"Homo erectus Topics:
click a topic to view it below"

Homo erectus


There is also a section

""How do we know..."

The aim of science is to build more accurate and powerful natural explanations of how the world works—and that requires testing ideas with observations and evidence to build scientific hypotheses and to generate predictions. The following examples explain how different kinds of evidence help scientists "know what we know", and how we use that evidence to draw conclusions about what happened in the past.

How Do We Know Humans Are Primates?
How Do We Know These Skulls Are Early Humans?
How Do We Know Climates Changed?
How Do We Know These Are Different Species?
How Do We Know the Ages of These Fossils?
How Do We Know These Are Human Fossils?
How Do We Know Climates Changed In The Past?
How Do We Know This Zebra Was Food?
How Do We Know Humans Evolved?
How Do We Know the Footprints Are Human?
How Do We Know Hadar’s Environment Changed?
How Do We Know Tools Were Transported?
How Do We Know These Were Hearths?
How Do We Know How Long It Took to Grow Up?
How Do We Know These Were Used as Pigments?
How Do We Know These Are Beads?"

How Do We Know? | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

There is also

"Human Evolution Timeline Interactive

Explore the evidence for human evolution in this interactive timeline - climate change, species, and milestones in becoming human.

Zoom in using the magnifier on the bottom for a closer look!"

Human Evolution Timeline Interactive | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

Feargod, did you go through this site and information?

 

[FearGod]

Feargod, did you go through this site and information?

Yes i went through the site.

I can't find a rational answer of how one species lived for hundreds of thousands of years and some lived even more than a million of years and supposed adapted very well to the environment and its fluctuations and then extincted and the branches kept alive.