I am sorry to disappont you, and what Scripture says. But my deconversion was not motivated by any bad thing happening to me. Or being hurt, or whatever. After all, there are no atheists in foxholes, allegedely.
I still remember how it started. I was having Pizza with my family and talking about Jesus and how thankful we should be to Him for being a happy family and have always something to eat. When my older son asked: mom, how can a mathematician like you still believe that stuff?
I told him that far greater mathematicians were devout Christians, but what he meant was: why don't you use the same logic in order to evaluate your beliefs?
That was the beginning of the end of my faith. Because I started doing exactly that. You should try it.
Do you feel like I use logic to try to persuade you or emotional appeals? Because your remark here is hurtful (again).
I’m having a heckuva argument (okay, it’s really a discussion since you like to argue by contrast) on another thread with a Christian who says faith is of the heart and mind but not by logic, reason or scripture.
What’s a bummer? That you will incur greater judgment than another because you enjoy your attempts to shipwreck people’s faith? (Now, that last would be an emotional appeal.)
Because I had time to grow up. Probably. If I had died before, I would presumably play harp in Heaven by now. Who can say?
And I am not mocking the believer. I am mocking the belief. I love the believer.
If you showed love for me, you wouldn’t say cruel statements like “try some logic sometime” after I’ve used logic with you across 100 posts.
If you showed logic, you’d actually heed what I’ve written many times on these threads—we don’t sit on clouds and play harps in Heaven. We live eternally—eternal learning, eternal growth, eternal relationships, eternal playing and singing and day-by-day’ing, eternal life.
If you think—to borrow a phrase from the Scientology cult—that you’re “clear” now, you can say something like “Good for you, you’re religious,” instead of contriving to say something accusatory and/or mocking—don’t deny it—you just wrote “mocking the belief”--every 30 to 40 seconds you’re on this site. If you’re clear now, don’t feel like you need to rescue my from my “delusions”, I wallow in them, and enjoy them. Don’t bring my high down, please, sister.
Just go away and enjoy your life of peace… without.
To be frank, I’m excited to post here at RF because there are many seekers, many of them, lurkers. You are like a crossing guard holding out both arms at a busy intersection while the cars run over you.
So, if you want to be more productive around here—go for it! Please tell me exactly HOW you “began” to employ logic after pizza night. You hadn’t used logic all the time before that you were a believer? “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge”. Please tell me what logical steps you made away from the Bible after the power and drama of big pizza night. My son has pizza with me and tells me of the illogic of skeptics. We make Vulcan greetings with our hands and smile.
PS. “I don’t like God’s Laws!” or “My modern sensibilities don’t like slavery or rape in the Bible!” are presentism and emotional appeals, not LOGIC.
I LOVE logic. Bring us some for a change instead of one liners, why don’cha!
PPS. Sorry to be so harsh, but you really are a bitter pill, making caustic remarks constantly. You sound like a 90-year-old woman in hospice without friends or hope. I’d LOVE to hear your steps of logic away from God, and I’d feel like at least I was talking to a person, not a broken record.
. Actually, it was not. It is very exhilarating to realize to have been wrong. I think it is as good as realizing to be right.
