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The Creation

Venatoris

Active Member
well if they do collide then its mentioned in the quran

You mean you don't know for sure? That's far from convincing!

and man is made of Clay ask your biology teacher ..
wikipedia- composition of the human body:
Element Percent by mass Oxygen 65 Carbon 18 Hydrogen 10 Nitrogen 3 Calcium 1.5 Phosphorus 1.2 Potassium 0.2 Sulfur 0.2 Chlorine 0.2 Sodium 0.1 Magnesium 0.05 Iron 3.8g in men, 2.3g in women Cobalt, Copper, Zinc, Iodine < 0.05 each Selenium, Fluorine < 0.01 each

Clay theory(which I assume is what you are referring to) is far from scientific fact. It is a hypothetical illustration of how abiogenesis may have occurred and even the guy who came up with it admits it has its flaws. My biology teacher says you're wrong. People are not made of clay!
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Dood. U do realize that the foolishness of your claims are getting harder and harder not to ridicule, right? If that were true, every teenaged boy's penis would be long ago reduced to dust.
:monkey::biglaugh::monkey::biglaugh::monkey:


and clay is produced due to friction of the hands together is a fact ..
Ummm.... on which planet?
 
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Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Sorry brother the Quran has no errors .. Each one of you was born with (Fitra) natural state that there is no god but the Creator but your hearts were misguided so you deny , Seek knowledge and you will find the truth take care ..

You are really confusing me. Slow down and let's talk together. You are saying that the quran has no errors, and that we can prove it to be true, right? How shall we go about doing that?

I got the impression that you're saying that scientific discoveries support the quran, and that's how we know it's true. Is that right?
 

Autodidact

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well if they do collide then its mentioned in the quran ,
But you quoted the quran at length saying that they don't! Are you saying the quran contradicts itself?
and man is made of Clay ask your biology teacher ..
I did. Found out we're not made of clay. We're mostly water.

Are you sure you're not here trying to persuade us the quran is not true? Because so far not one of your claims has been borne out.
 

AFRICAN

Member
You mean you don't know for sure? That's far from convincing!

wikipedia- composition of the human body:
Element Percent by mass Oxygen 65 Carbon 18 Hydrogen 10 Nitrogen 3 Calcium 1.5 Phosphorus 1.2 Potassium 0.2 Sulfur 0.2 Chlorine 0.2 Sodium 0.1 Magnesium 0.05 Iron 3.8g in men, 2.3g in women Cobalt, Copper, Zinc, Iodine < 0.05 each Selenium, Fluorine < 0.01 each

Clay theory(which I assume is what you are referring to) is far from scientific fact. It is a hypothetical illustration of how abiogenesis may have occurred and even the guy who came up with it admits it has its flaws. My biology teacher says you're wrong. People are not made of clay!

Well i never stated in any previous post that they collide or not all i said the Quran makes no Errors ,
Sorry you and your biology teacher are ignorant ...
 

AFRICAN

Member
But you quoted the quran at length saying that they don't! Are you saying the quran contradicts itself?
I did. Found out we're not made of clay. We're mostly water.

Are you sure you're not here trying to persuade us the quran is not true? Because so far not one of your claims has been borne out.

Did you not read the verse of the Quran i posted ?!?

so, let this man reflect from what is he created. He is created from an ejaculated fluid that comes from between the loins and the ribs. [He should consider that if his Lord can shape him into a man from this fluid, then] indeed, He can bring him back to life [after his death]. (Verse 5 – 8)

In verse five to eight, the rejecters are reminded of their creation and are asked to ponder on the fact that if God can bring them to life from a despicable drop of water, then why can’t he bring them back to life after they are dead and buried.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Well i never stated in any previous post that they collide or not all i said the Quran makes no Errors ,
Sorry you and your biology teacher are ignorant ...

So does science confirm the quran, or disagree with it?

How do you know the quran makes no errors?

To say the quran makes no errors, do we have to disregard science?

Are you saying that wiki is wrong?
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Did you not read the verse of the Quran i posted ?!?

so, let this man reflect from what is he created. He is created from an ejaculated fluid that comes from between the loins and the ribs. [He should consider that if his Lord can shape him into a man from this fluid, then] indeed, He can bring him back to life [after his death]. (Verse 5 – 8)

In verse five to eight, the rejecters are reminded of their creation and are asked to ponder on the fact that if God can bring them to life from a despicable drop of water, then why can’t he bring them back to life after they are dead and buried.

Uh huh. Whatever.

You're saying the quran makes no errors, right? And this is the proof of it. We don't have to accept it on faith, we can test it, right? Are you saying that? How do you know? What method do we use to test the quran and see if it's in error or not? Apparently you don't think we should use science, so what method do you think we should use?
 

OmarKhayyam

Well-Known Member
Well i never stated in any previous post that they collide or not all i said the Quran makes no Errors ,
Sorry you and your biology teacher are ignorant ...

Really? Who posted this?

No. 67- Verse:3-4 (If you want to see how wonderfully this programme functions and how His sovereignty and protection work in absolute harmony, then take a look at the gigantic machinery of the universe.) He has made the various heavenly bodies in outer space in a way that they can maintain complete conformity (and not collide) with each other

Someone steal your password and log on in your name?:facepalm:

OR maybe you just have NEVER thought that much about what your fable actually says. Maybe you simply believe it - no questions asked.

That it? You believe it because you believe it?:confused:
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Because, AFRICAN, you're not trying to argue that we know the quran makes no errors because the quran says it makes no errors, are you? You're not that stupid, right? Please tell me you're not that stupid.

OTOH, if you are, I have a great investment opportunity for you.
 

AFRICAN

Member
you know all living beings are made of water. (Quran was the first to tell it, science proves it , ask a biology teacher).

A thickened liquid (Sperm). Man is made of sperm ( Science proves, ask a biology teacher).

Sperms came from an area between the backbone and ribs:

In embryonic stages, the reproductive organs of the male and female, i.e. the testicles and the ovaries, begin their development near the kidney between the spinal column and the eleventh and twelfth ribs. Later they descend; the female gonads(ovaries) stop in the pelvis while the male gonads(testicles) continue their descent before birth to reach the scrotum through the inguinal canal. Even in the adult after the descent of the reproductive organ, these organs receive their nerve supply and blood supply from the Abdominal Aorta, which is in the area between the back bone(spinal column) and the ribs. Even the lymphatic drainage and the venous return goes to the same area.

Man is made from clay. Science also says so. Who says science disproves it?
We created man from an extract of clay. Then We made him as a drop in a place of settlement, firmly fixed. Then We made the drop into an alaqah (leech, suspended thing, and blood clot), then We made the alaqah into a mudghah (chewed substance)... (Quran, 23:12-14)Literally, the Arabic word alaqah has three meanings: (1) leech, (2) suspended thing, and (3) blood clot.

Scientific Explanation : the Qur'an informs us that man is made not from the entire semen, but only a small part of it. That the particular emphasis in this verse announces a fact only discovered by modern science is evidence that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
you know all living beings are made of water. (Quran was the first to tell it, science proves it , ask a biology teacher).

Man is made from clay. Science also says so. Who says science disproves it?
Wikipedia, didn't you read it? People are not made of clay; that's just incredibly ignorant ancient superstition. It's not true. Science tells us we are made of cells, mostly water, and a lot of protein.
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Tell you what, oh font of ignorance and superstition, find me a single scientific source--not a Muslim source, a science source, from any book or article, that says people are made of clay. If you can show me where Biology or medicine says we're made of clay, I will instantly convert to Islam and wear a hijab.

If not, will you leave Islam?
 

AFRICAN

Member
Wikipedia, didn't you read it? People are not made of clay; that's just incredibly ignorant ancient superstition. It's not true. Science tells us we are made of cells, mostly water, and a lot of protein.

Tell you what, oh font of ignorance and superstition, find me a single scientific source--not a Muslim source, a science source, from any book or article, that says people are made of clay. If you can show me where Biology or medicine says we're made of clay, I will instantly convert to Islam and wear a hijab.

If not, will you leave Islam?[/quote]

Ok
 

AFRICAN

Member
Sister Autodidact Wikipedia is not a scientific source it only gathers information , how can i send u the link to the Professors View ??
 

MSizer

MSizer
Man is made of sperm ( Science proves, ask a biology teacher).

No. That is false. "man" (I think you mean to use the more inclusive term "humans") are not made of sperm. First of all, the "liquid" is not even sperm, it's semen. Secondly, the semen is nothing more than a vector for sperm cells. Sperm are not humunculae. Ask your biology teacher. Better yet, I'm pretty sure your biology teacher let you down. Read instead.
 
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