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The Creation

Autodidact

Autodidact

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AFRICAN said:
Tell you what, oh font of ignorance and superstition, find me a single scientific source--not a Muslim source, a science source, from any book or article, that says people are made of clay. If you can show me where Biology or medicine says we're made of clay, I will instantly convert to Islam and wear a hijab.

If not, will you leave Islam?
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Ok[/quote]

So you're going to give me a scientific cite that says people are made of clay, and if you can't find one--a scientific source, not a Muslim apologetics site, you're going to leave Islam, right?
 
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MSizer said:
No. That is false. "man" (I think you mean to use the more inclusive term "humans") are not made of sperm. First of all, the "liquid" is not even sperm, it's semen. Secondly, the semen is nothing more than a vector for sperm cells. Sperm are not humunculae. Ask your biology teacher. Better yet, I'm pretty sure your biology teacher let you down. Read instead.
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We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing and seeing. (Qur'an, 76:2)

Semen is made up of a mixture of different fluids. Seminal fluid is a collection of substances secreted from the testicles, the seminal vesicles, the prostate gland and glands linked to the urinary tract. A detailed analysis of this fluid shows that it consists of a great many separate substances, such as citric acid, prostaglandin, flavin, ascorbic acid, ergothioneine, cholesterol, phospholipids, fibrinolysin, zinc, phosphatase acid, phosphase, hyaluronidase and sperm. These fluids exercise different functions, such as containing the sugar necessary for providing energy for the sperm, neutralizing the acids at the entrance of the uterus, and providing a slippery substance for the easy movement of the sperm.
 
MSizer

MSizer

MSizer
AFRICAN said:
Do u know this Professor Keith L. Moore, Ph.D., F.I.A.C.
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I do! He's in Toronto. There are even religious scientists who have written him about thier concern for his misuse of biology for apparent theological agendae. There is much concern about the credibility of his claims. He has even been written to by the Catholic group of engineers (I don't remember what they're called exactly) asking that he stop expressing false claims, as they are spreading on the Internet and misinforming the general public.
 
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Autodidact said:
Ok
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So you're going to give me a scientific cite that says people are made of clay, and if you can't find one--a scientific source, not a Muslim apologetics site, you're going to leave Islam, right?[/quote]

i already have one . the Professor is not a muslim ...
Sorry but i will never leave Islam ..
 
MSizer

MSizer

MSizer
AFRICAN said:
We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing and seeing. (Qur'an, 76:2)

Semen is made up of a mixture of different fluids. Seminal fluid is a collection of substances secreted from the testicles, the seminal vesicles, the prostate gland and glands linked to the urinary tract. A detailed analysis of this fluid shows that it consists of a great many separate substances, such as citric acid, prostaglandin, flavin, ascorbic acid, ergothioneine, cholesterol, phospholipids, fibrinolysin, zinc, phosphatase acid, phosphase, hyaluronidase and sperm. These fluids exercise different functions, such as containing the sugar necessary for providing energy for the sperm, neutralizing the acids at the entrance of the uterus, and providing a slippery substance for the easy movement of the sperm.
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Wow, and you just typed that up all by yourself; right? And even if you had, what does that have to do with the composition of a developped human?
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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AFRICAN said:
So you're going to give me a scientific cite that says people are made of clay, and if you can't find one--a scientific source, not a Muslim apologetics site, you're going to leave Islam, right?
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i already have one . the Professor is not a muslim ...
Sorry but i will never leave Islam ..[/quote]

Oh, I thought you agreed to our deal. You cite me a scientific source that says people are made of clay, and I'll convert to Islam. If you can't, you'll leave Islam. You're not willing to accept that deal? Gee, it sounds fair to me. It sounds like I have a lot more confidence in my position than you do in yours.

Are you sure you didn't come here to drive us away from Islam? Because you're doing a really good job of that.
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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btw, AFRICAN, people aren't made from sperm. They develop out an embryo that has been fertilized by a sperm. The egg is about a million times bigger than the sperm.
 
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Autodidact said:
i already have one . the Professor is not a muslim ...
Sorry but i will never leave Islam ..
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Oh, I thought you agreed to our deal. You cite me a scientific source that says people are made of clay, and I'll convert to Islam. If you can't, you'll leave Islam. You're not willing to accept that deal? Gee, it sounds fair to me. It sounds like I have a lot more confidence in my position than you do in yours.

Are you sure you didn't come here to drive us away from Islam? Because you're doing a really good job of that.[/quote]

Well i am not here to invite you to Islam am just shading light on some facts you are an aware of ...
 
Autodidact

Autodidact

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AFRICAN said:
Oh, I thought you agreed to our deal. You cite me a scientific source that says people are made of clay, and I'll convert to Islam. If you can't, you'll leave Islam. You're not willing to accept that deal? Gee, it sounds fair to me. It sounds like I have a lot more confidence in my position than you do in yours.

Are you sure you didn't come here to drive us away from Islam? Because you're doing a really good job of that.
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Well i am not here to invite you to Islam am just shading light on some facts you are an aware of ...[/quote]

What facts are those?

So I gather you have no scientific source whatsoever for your assertion that people are made of clay?

So basically science disproves the quran, is that what you're saying?
 
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AFRICAN

Member
Autodidact said:
Well i am not here to invite you to Islam am just shading light on some facts you are an aware of ...
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What facts are those?

So I gather you have no scientific source whatsoever for your assertion that people are made of clay?

So basically science disproves the quran, is that what you're saying?[/quote]

No i do have !!
How can i send u the link ,,?? Because the last time i put links here i was given a warning ..
 
Kilgore Trout

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I have it on good authority that boys are made of snips, snails, and puppy dog tails, while girls are made of sugar, spice, and everything nice. Nowhere is clay mentioned, although, it is possible that this is what little hermaphrodites are made of.
 
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atotalstranger said:
I have it on good authority that boys are made of snips, snails, and puppy dog tails, while girls are made of sugar, spice, and everything nice. Nowhere is clay mentioned, although, it is possible that this is what little hermaphrodites are made of.
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i shouldn't reply you ,but your comment Shows that your made out of ignorance and blindness t.c ..
 
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