the definition of cuckod between the Westerns and Muslims

[Godobeyer]

Men dont have different emotions then women, its just that we are taught to handle it differently. Men are expected not to cry. Women are expected to. I remember something my mother has told me. She was a nurse, has worked a lot with children, and when she vaccinated them it was mostly the though guys who fainted. Curious, isnt it.

no , most of the women even the kids at fast cry , and fast soft emotion , for exemple the mother love her kids more than the father .the mother wish to die or ill instead of you , but the father no !!!!
why ?
because she had more emotional that male .
and you can see that even in animals , the female care and defend for her kids always and forever .

 

[Kerr]

no , most of the women even the kids at fast cry , and fast soft emotion , for exemple the mother love her kids more than the father .the mother wish to die or ill instead of you , but the father no !!!!
why ?
because she had more emotional that male .
and you can see that even in animals , the female care and defend for her kids always and forever .

Sounds rather stereotypical to me. I should know, I am a rather emotional man . Its all about how we are taught to deal with our emotions.

 

[Godobeyer]

Sounds rather stereotypical to me. I should know, I am a rather emotional man . Its all about how we are taught to deal with our emotions.

no, emotions reaction between the male and females are not the something taught or habit , or tradition or culture . it's god creat .

 

[Kerr]

no, emotions reaction between the male and females are not the something taught or habit , or tradition or culture . it's god creat .

Shouldnt it be rather constant then? Because in my experience it is not.

 

[Looncall]

As a Muslim male, I think this is a very wrong generalization.

Please consider carefully what a statement entails before posting it in the future, especially if it's a blanket one such as this.

I would be willing to amend that to "typical men in muslim-dominated societies". Would you be more comfortable with that?

 

[Looncall]

if the tradition dispear, the instinct appaer .the women usualy subission to the men , maybe because we are stronger or becaue her psychique
acualty I see the different ,we are equal just in the right , the duty or the way of living, or jobs required (male/female) NO !!!
if we are told that we are EQUAL in everything , that's make problem in future . maybe we will find the all husbands stay and care at home for babys in house and all the wifes worked out , the duty/job exchanged !!!!

Why would that be a problem?

 

[Godobeyer]

Why would that be a problem?

that's would make problems because , it's just like exchange the roles "jobs " , there are jobs required only for women and there others required only for men, it's like when a human walking by his hand instead of his feet !!!! it's not make problem, but it's required to wake on you feet not your hands .
I am talking about religous view , and psychical and physical view .

 

[Flankerl]

The threadstarter didnt ask the right question.

Why would a devout religious muslim man know what the fetish "cuckold" is?

 

[Godobeyer]

Shouldnt it be rather constant then? Because in my experience it is not.

many things in life are not behave by experience or habit , it's god planeted inside us .
ok , you will understand me , ask your parent if they loved you by experience (heritage) "because their parent do the same to them " or they habit or because they just loved you but they don't know why (instinct) ?

edited :you a man ,if you love a woman , you love her by experience (heritage) something all the people do ? or you love her because you Attract to her (instinct) ?

 

[Godobeyer]

The threadstarter didnt ask the right question.

Why would a devout religious muslim man know what the fetish "cuckold" is?

because the Cuckold is loser in this life (his dignity is in the WC, he is a "man" just by name, maybe just male ) and he will get the Hell in hereafter even he (cuckold) is a muslim .

edited : cuckold acts , he did not feel jeolous when some one kiss or dance or made sex with his wife , he don't care , maybe he will support her to do that , by the name of freedom or trust .

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

that's would make problems because , it's just like exchange the roles "jobs " , there are jobs required only for women and there others required only for men, it's like when a human walking by his hand instead of his feet !!!! it's not make problem, but it's required to wake on you feet not your hands .
I am talking about religous view , and psychical and physical view .

The irrational view, more like.

The implication of what you're saying is that women would be bad at driving in a similar way to how a person walking on his hands would be bad at walking.

Is this what you're trying to say? Because in my experience, it's completely false. With the same training and experience, women are just as good at driving as men.

In fact, I know a few female race car drivers who could probably teach you a thing or two about driving.

because the Cuckold is loser in this life (his dignity is in the WC, he is a "man" just by name, maybe just male ) and he will get the Hell in hereafter even he (cuckold) is a muslim .

If all that is true, why do you make yourself out to be the cuckold, then?

 

[Kerr]

many things in life are not behave by experience or habit , it's god planeted inside us .
ok , you will understand me , ask your parent if they loved you by experience (heritage) "because their parent do the same to them " or they habit or because they just loved you but they don't know why (instinct) ?

edited :you a man ,if you love a woman , you love her by experience (heritage) something all the people do ? or you love her because you Attract to her (instinct) ?

My parents love me because I am their son, but that is irrelevant to my point. If you take a look at the world you will see exceptions to what you are saying. If it was instinct how we handle our emotions, if it is not in any way taught, then why are there differences? Why is it not consistent? Why are there cold women and sensitive men?

 

[Draka]

I agree , that they are almost equal in rights(we are human) but i am not agree about that we are equal in duty .
some jobs did not required for women because " her physically " or " her degnity " , for exemple mechanic's car or any hard work , or woking as adutler woman (buy her body by hour ) how she will make new generation by this job , what is the view of her kids in the futur , when they discover that their mother was b000h? , this **** jobs for my opinion destroy the society and the definition of family "parents" ....etc

Actually, females make very good mechanics. I've worked on cars with my father since I was about 12 years old. Still, as a woman, my smaller framed hands and limbs allow me to get into places on a car that make things easier for me to fix. Jobs that would otherwise require dismantling of different parts just to get to them by most men. I also was an electrician in the Navy, and worked maintenance (both electrical and mechanical) for a factory. Now, these jobs certainly weren't too much for me physically, so I'm wondering how they had anything to do with my dignity.

thanks for this reply sister .
I just told her , we are equal in right but not in duty .
I mean there are jobs and things required to men ,and other jobs required only for women . for exemple babysister is job required for woman . and bus driver required for men .

back to my thread , what is your opinion for the cuckold in the view of Islam and the view of the western ? what is the main diferent between them? by exemples .

I've seen very few male bus drivers. In fact, as I recall, most bus drivers of school buses when I went to school were female. And how is being female a requirement for being a babysitter?

if the tradition dispear, the instinct appaer .the women usualy subission to the men , maybe because we are stronger or becaue her psychique
acualty I see the different ,we are equal just in the right , the duty or the way of living, or jobs required (male/female) NO !!!
if we are told that we are EQUAL in everything , that's make problem in future . maybe we will find the all husbands stay and care at home for babys in house and all the wifes worked out , the duty/job exchanged !!!!

How is that a problem? I've been the sole breadwinner before, with a SAHD (stay-at-home-dad) as a husband. I don't see the issue.

no, emotions reaction between the male and females are not the something taught or habit , or tradition or culture . it's god creat .

Not true. How men and women respond and act out emotionally is very largely related to how they were instructed by their parents and the society in which they live.

that's would make problems because , it's just like exchange the roles "jobs " , there are jobs required only for women and there others required only for men, it's like when a human walking by his hand instead of his feet !!!! it's not make problem, but it's required to wake on you feet not your hands .
I am talking about religous view , and psychical and physical view .

The only job that has a gender requirement on it is that of carrying a pregnancy and giving birth. In that, it seems women carry more job abilities than men.

 

[Godobeyer]

The irrational view, more like.

The implication of what you're saying is that women would be bad at driving in a similar way to how a person walking on his hands would be bad at walking.

Is this what you're trying to say? Because in my experience, it's completely false. With the same training and experience, women are just as good at driving as men.

In fact, I know a few female race car drivers who could probably teach you a thing or two about driving.

don't tell me that , you make our life based on experience ,
see this video , the goat is stand up because of experience or because instinct (something inside it ) and his mother suck him because experience or because instinct of motherhood ?
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new born goat - YouTube

If all that is true, why do you make yourself out to be the cuckold, then?

me and more people even some westerns , would not let their wifes dancing or strips or made sex with others .

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

don't tell me that , you make our life based on experience ,
see this video , the goat is stand up because of experience or because instinct (something inside it ) and his mother suck him because experience or because instinct of motherhood ?

I'm not a goat; are you?

me and more people even some westerns , would not let their wifes dancing or strips or made sex with others .

Frankly, if your wife doesn't want to have sex anyone else, then "let" is irrelevant. It only matters when you're nearly a cuckold anyway.

 

[Godobeyer]

I'm not a goat; are you?

I know you are penguin , I mean there is something instinct in this life it's not habit or culture .
I am sure that your mom loves you until she prefer to die instead of you , could you ask her for us ? and verify this ?

Frankly, if your wife doesn't want to have sex anyone else, then "let" is irrelevant. It only matters when you're nearly a cuckold anyway.

frankly too , i am sure that you know some one considerate as cuckold , they let their wives strips and dancing and make sex with other men for money

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I know you are penguin , I mean there is something instinct in this life it's not habit or culture .
I am sure that your mom loves you until she prefer to die instead of you , could you ask her for us ? and verify this ?

The same was true of my Dad (he's not alive any more, but it would've been true when he was). This isn't a matter of difference between gender.

frankly too , i am sure that you know some one considerate as cuckold , they let their wives strips and dancing and make sex with other men for money

You know what? I'm going to stop trying to get through to you. I have no idea how to relate to you, and when I try to figure out what's going on in your head, I don't like what I see. I'm done.

 

[Godobeyer]

Actually, females make very good mechanics. I've worked on cars with my father since I was about 12 years old. Still, as a woman, my smaller framed hands and limbs allow me to get into places on a car that make things easier for me to fix. Jobs that would otherwise require dismantling of different parts just to get to them by most men. I also was an electrician in the Navy, and worked maintenance (both electrical and mechanical) for a factory. Now, these jobs certainly weren't too much for me physically, so I'm wondering how they had anything to do with my dignity.

maybe because the technologie facilate the mechanic work there , but it's abuse to me let a kid (12 years old) working job required to adult and men !!!!!

I know the all the jobs give money , but for your opinion if you are working in Police station (policewoman) and your husband is just dishs clearner in restuarant , i am sure that you will be the only boss "man" of the house instead of him , and he becomes just a machine for sex and some money .

I've seen very few male bus drivers. In fact, as I recall, most bus drivers of school buses when I went to school were female. And how is being female a requirement for being a babysitter?

here i never saw a female driver bus , how about when the wheel go down (sleep) how she could change it and she was alone , or ask the help of man ?

How is that a problem? I've been the sole breadwinner before, with a SAHD (stay-at-home-dad) as a husband. I don't see the issue.

in some case "emergency cases",not most of cases , the husband become babysister and his wife working out

Not true. How men and women respond and act out emotionally is very largely related to how they were instructed by their parents and the society in which they live.

ok ask your mother how much she love you , she will told you that she prefer to die instead of you , how you explain this emotion ?

The only job that has a gender requirement on it is that of carrying a pregnancy and giving birth. In that, it seems women carry more job abilities than men.

this is not job , it's ability , giving by God to the female ,she is valontie and by instinct want to be mother , and i am sure that when you being mother you wil love your kids more than your self .

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

here i never saw a female driver bus , how about when the wheel go down (sleep) how she could change it and she was alone , or ask the help of man ?

On a large bus, anyone - man or woman - would need an impact gun and a very large jack to change the tire, neither of which would be carried on the bus itself. And at least here, the vehicles don't normally carry a spare. Any driver would need help from a support crew.

 

[Godobeyer]

The same was true of my Dad (he's not alive any more, but it would've been true when he was). This isn't a matter of difference between gender.

i am sorry for you dad , all we will gone
how do you explain the love of your dad and your mom ? instinct or habit (heritaged by generations ) ?

You know what? I'm going to stop trying to get through to you. I have no idea how to relate to you, and when I try to figure out what's going on in your head, I don't like what I see. I'm done.

I am here in Algeria, and i see these kind of people here .how about in the west
i am not exaggerat about that. I know what i talking about .
you reject your "frankly" ? no problem my friend .