McBell
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Only in the minds of you and your choir.My quotes show first-hand, in the first-person singular, that John faithfully recorded the word of God.
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Only in the minds of you and your choir.My quotes show first-hand, in the first-person singular, that John faithfully recorded the word of God.
exactly, just like quran says
[We have sent down the Quran Ourself, and We Ourself will guard it....] (Quran, Al-Hijr 15: 9),
Allah promised to protect it!!
your answers bowman are unsatisfactory.
You have not stated any portions from all the books in the new Testament that claim that each book's author received direct word for word revelation from God which was recorded as is with nothing added by the author. Therefore, the entire New Testament is not pure revelation from God.
Again, you have yet proven your stance. If you can't prove your stance, there is no reason to disprove it. You have the burden of proof. And your narrow-minded interpretation doesn't work, especially when you haven't shown any credibility. Again, you have the burden of proof. I'm not going to waste my time proving something wrong that has no evidence to the contrary.We already gave you several dozen ayah examples with which to select from and discuss....however, you are unable to do this elementary task, as you have no experience whatsoever in Arabic.
Just man-up to this, and be done with it.
The best that you can do now is to start googling your replies...
The Quran states it is a perfect teaching for all mankind for all time. No argument from you.
The Quran states that it will remain protected for all time in it's original form
-Someone stated there are original manuscripts different from what the Quran is today. COMPLETELY FALSE. If you have a single verse, even a single letter that is different, you have an obligation to present it so the truth can come to light.
The Quran is Pure Revelation from God to the Prophet Muhammad
-Bowman has a problem that the actual word Muhammad is not used to state that I Allah, reveal this, to Muhammad. But even a child can understand that every language has substitutes for proper Nouns. For example, if I am speaking to you and your name is John, I can say "This is for you" instead of saying "this is for John". Or We grant this to you. Or I give this to you. Even a child would understand such a sentence using the term "you" or any other pronoun as implying the only the 2 people in the conversation, and noone else.
In like fashion, the Quran also uses the term "you" when speaking to the Prophet. For example,
[2:120] [FONT=_PDMS_Saleem_QuranFont]اِنَّاۤ اَرْسَلْنٰكَ بِالْحَـقِّ بَشِيْرًا وَّنَذِيْرًاۙ* وَّلَا تُسْـَٔـلُ عَنْ اَصْحٰبِ الْجَحِيْمِ‏ [/FONT]
We have sent thee with the Truth, as a bearer of glad tidings and a warner. And thou wilt not be questioned about the inmates of Hell.
i already proved Quran is preserved in its original form even so bring a single contradiction in quran bcz humans are bound to make errorsThe oldest copy of the Koran is a mere fragment of one sura, brother.
Hardly 'original'....and hardly the basis for an unchanged Koran...
The Quran does not appear in the Arabic. In fact, the term is alkitaba which always refers to written Biblical material whenever it is used in the Koran. After all, the Koran was oral to begin with per Islamic tradition, and was not written down in book form. Thus, it cannot possibly be referring to itself.
The term Muhammad also does not appear in the Arabic, and you had to once again artificially assume the term into the text abrogating its original meaning.
i already proved Quran is preserved in its original form even so bring a single contradiction in quran bcz humans are bound to make errors
on the other hand bible has many historical,mathematic,imaginary errors in bible (some Christian scholars agree with that)
i can give a list if you want:sarcastic
p.s next time might wanna keep the post shorter
Bible was written in Hebrew and Quran is written in Arabic
both are like sister languages but not same
1) "Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. ..." [Quran, chapter 3, verse 144]
2) "Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah, of all things, Knowing. (40)"
[Quran, chapter 33, verse 40]
3) " And those who believe and do righteous deeds and believe in what has been sent down upon Muhammad - and it is the truth from their Lord - He will remove from them their misdeeds and amend their condition. (2)"
[Quran, chapter 47, verse 2]
4) "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves...."
[Quran, chapter 48, verse 29]
There are many versions of the Koran. Which one do you follow...?
plz be my quest to put the so-called errors list from QuranWe can also provide a laundry list of errors and contradictions in your Koran.
Do you want to exchange weblinks...?
Again , the original text in which Bible was revealed on Prophet Jesus(Pbuh) was Hebrew , and the original manuscript has been lost , only few verses are left which are in HebrewFalse.
The Holy Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.
Isn't it obvious the coming Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was foretold by Jesus(pbuh)Why does the term "Muhammad" appear in the context of Jesus' Parable of the Growing Seed...as found only in the Gospel of Mark, chapter 4....?
Only to those people who want, or in your case, need, Mohammad to be mentioned in the Bible.Isn't it obvious the coming Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was foretold by Jesus(pbuh)
All version are same only they have different translation , and translations are bound to have errors even maybe 0.1% has its the work of humans
plz be my quest to put the so-called errors list from Quran
Again , the original text in which Bible was revealed on Prophet Jesus(Pbuh) was Hebrew , and the original manuscript has been lost , only few verses are left which are in Hebrew
Isn't it obvious the coming Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was foretold by Jesus(pbuh)
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament:
Al-Qur'an Chapter 61 Verse 6:
"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said, 'O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed.' But when he came to them with clear signs, they said, 'This is evident sorcery!' "
All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians.
1. John chapter 14 verse 16:
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever."
2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26:
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which
proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me."
3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7:
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not
come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you".
"Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the
Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter.
Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the
Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures.
Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise
that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the
Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh).
4. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 12-14:
"I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is
come, he will guide you unto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me".
The Sprit of Truth, spoken about in this prophecy referes to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.
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Buddy you concepts about Quran are skew, there is only one version of Quran in entire worldThe oldest copies of the Koran are devoid of diactrical markings. These markings were artificially added later - of which, in many cases, completely changes the meaning of the original words.
Now...which version of the Koran do you follow....the original version without the diactrical markings or the abbrogated version that was altered at a later date...?
Lol , its actually Bible says that world was created in six days 24hours periodAccording to your book of faith, 1 day = 1,000 years (22.47 & 32.5).
According to your book of faith, the universe was created in 6 days (7.54, 10.3, 11.7, 25.59, 32.4, 50.38, & 57.4).
Now…applying some simple math we have 6 x 1,000 = 6,000 years for the creation of the Universe, according to the authors of the Koran.
Everyone knows that the Universe was not created in six thousand years...
Yes i have read Bible , and i think you haven'tCompletely wrong, again...
Had you bothered to study Jesus' quotes, then you would have observed that many of them came directly from the Greek Septuagint.
Ofc , Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) spoke Arabic , its natural Allah gave him revelation in the language he talked , not another language bcz he wouldn't have understoodFurther, the authors of the Koran have Jesus speaking in Arabic....talk about abrogation!
وإذ قال عيسى ابن مريم يبني إسرءيل إني
رسول الله إليكم مصدقا لما بين يدي من التورية
ومبشرا برسول يأتي من بعدي اسمه أحمد فلما
جاءهم بالبينت قالوا هذا سحر مبين
Wa-ith qala AAeesa ibnu maryama ya banee isra-eela innee rasoolu Allahi ilaykum musaddiqan lima bayna yadayya mina alttawrati wamubashshiran birasoolin ya/tee min baAAdee ismuhu ahmadu falamma jaahum bialbayyinati qaloo hathasihrun mubeenun
61.6 And when Jesus, Mary's son, said: “Myson’sof Israel, I came, “allah's”
messenger to you; fulfilling the truth altogether manifestbefore, from the scriptures of the Jews and Christians; and one who rejoices anotheron account of a messenger; He comes from after thee, Hisname should be praised.” So when He came to them on account ofthemanifest evidences, they said:“Heobviouslyallies himself to the devil.”
61.6 paraphrases Jesus’ quote from Malachi, which pertains to John the Baptist preparing the way for Him, as recorded in the Biblical Gospels.
Let’s summarize exactly what is being stated in 61.6…
- Jesus quotes from the Old Testament (alttawrati).
- Jesus is quoted as saying that He, Himself came (innee) as the one spoken of from BOTH the OT (alttawrati); AND from the one who rejoices another (mubashshiran).
1) Before, from the OT (alttawrati).
- Observe that the text specifically stresses two vantage points that Jesus Himself fulfills and confirms as truth:
&
2) After, from the one who rejoices Him (mubashshiran...i.e. John the Baptist).
- Jesus proclaims that He fulfills both the OT scripture, & that of John the Baptist’ proclamation of Him.
- The one who rejoices another (wamubashshiran…i.e. John the Baptist) appears in only three Koranic locations (34.45, 48.8, & 61.6) and refers to this praiseworthy man (i.e Jesus). Observe that the two other locations are in the context of “Muhammad” (i.e. Jesus).
- Further, the one who rejoices does so on account of a “messenger” (birasoolin).
- We are told that this “messenger” is a man that comes (ya/tee) from after thee (baAAdee).
- This “messenger’s” name (ismuhu) is worthy of praise (ahmadu). Thus, just like the participle “Muhammad”, “ahmadu” refers to a man that is praised as deity.
- The implication of Jesus’ statement in the Koran is profound, as He is proclaiming that He is the Lord that John the Baptist has prepared the way for. Jesus is claiming to be God Almighty in this ayah!
- The sequence marker “fa” (signifying cause & effect), then connects what we were just told regarding Jesus’ fulfillment of the scriptures, to His reception by some of the people – who though that He allied Himself to the devil.