The end of hatered

[Spirit of Light]

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, is an old English saying: if your actions are infallible and perfect to the situation that you face it will be demonstrated that you have survived and are without any form of suffering whatsoever.

That is a way to see it ofcourse. My next question is asked with no judgement toward you and your way of thinking, but i ask because you made me curious.

Am i understanding you correct that, as long you get it your way it is the right way, no matter what happens to others? If i am wrong i apologize for asking something that sound very bad to ask.

 

[Shantanu]

That is a way to see it ofcourse. My next question is asked with no judgement toward you and your way of thinking, but i ask because you made me curious.

Am i understanding you correct that, as long you get it your way it is the right way, no matter what happens to others? If i am wrong i apologize for asking something that sound very bad to ask.

Every person has the right to defend himself or herself from unjustified attacks: so long as I am doing what I need to do to attain justice in the most appropriate manner, every one else affected would have got their just deserts. If they feel aggrieved by what I have done, they are free to take action against me by voicing their concerns appropriately as it suits them. We are all individuals and have no right to presume that others are affected in a bad way of good way by our actions. It is wrong to be compassionate or attack someone else be it a human being, animal or plant for that matter. Everyone should mind their own business and deal with their situations themselves. We do not ever know what is good or bad for someone else. So Buddhism is wrong.

 

[crossfire]

Tell me...what productiveness comes from hate?

Wrathful emotions are useful for getting around or removing obstacles. However, when hatred overcomes/poisons your mind, the results will probably not be very intelligent or skillful.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Every person has the right to defend himself or herself from unjustified attacks: so long as I am doing what I need to do to attain justice in the most appropriate manner, every one else affected would have got their just deserts. If they feel aggrieved by what I have done, they are free to take action against me by voicing their concerns appropriately as it suits them. We are all individuals and have no right to presume that others are affected in a bad way of good way by our actions. It is wrong to be compassionate or attack someone else be it a human being, animal or plant for that matter. Everyone should mind their own business and deal with their situations themselves. We do not ever know what is good or bad for someone else. So Buddhism is wrong.

Thank you for your answer.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Wrathful emotions are useful for getting around or removing obstacles.

I'm struggling to wrap my head around this generalization. Can you offer a specific example?

 

[Shantanu]

Thank you for your answer.

 

[wizanda]

Tell me...what productiveness comes from hate?

Hating bullying, sexism, racism, bigotedness, etc.

In my opinion.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Hating bullying, sexism, racism, bigotedness, etc.

I still fail to see how hating these is productive. Wouldn't it be more productive to understand the source of these ideologies and take action to eradicate them?

 

[Vinayaka]

Hate is such a strong word, and has many variations and meanings. Annoyance, sarcasm, disgust, disapproval, disagreement, malice. I also see a tendency to see it in others, before seeing it in oneself.

Personally, I see it as human nature, and not all that dangerous, until it involves action, and can be defined as hate speech, or is murder, property damage, or otherwise against some universal moral code.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Hate is such a strong word, and has many variations and meanings. Annoyance, sarcasm, disgust, disapproval, disagreement, malice. I also see a tendency to see it in others, before seeing it in oneself.

Personally, I see it as human nature, and not all that dangerous, until it involves action, and can be defined as hate speech, or is murder, property damage, or otherwise against some universal moral code.

People think the word hate is to strong to describe something about action, words or thoughts that one self or other holds, but if you change those words to love, acceptance, peace, happiness, suddenly the words is full of wisdom. so to choose a parth of love, compassion and peace both within and outward, that can lead us to a much deeper understanding of each others.

When describing others with words as hateful or similar words, we must do it without judging the person. because as soon you judge the person you become hateful you self. that does not help to create a compassionate world

 

[loverofhumanity]

What do you do to end hate toward other people?

To hate someone is to hate you self in a sense. because if you hate others you do not see them for who they are, you only see what you do not want them to be. (you want people to be like you)

There are some people that like to hate. I’ve had problems where people have stalked me with view to criticising and hating on me but I think they do it because they have personal insecurity.

Why would you or I feel the need to put another person down? I think it’s usually because we don’t feel equal or insecure about ourselves so by putting other people down it makes up for the insecure feelings and the ego feels at rest when it feels superior or wins an argument or shames someone or ridicules and intimidates them because the nature of the ego is to feel superior and better than others and it is a quenchless thirst.

So the more superior the ego feels the more superior it wants to feel,and the more it wants to put down others and find fault with them. But the ego only thrives when there is spiritual bankruptcy. When a person has almost no spirituality then their ego attempts to fill in the empty vacuum or void but to fill in the ego the only way is to make one feel superior so such methods are adopted to criticize, hurt, win arguments, and just basically resort to any tactic that makes one feel superior to another to fill that empty spiritual vacuum.

Spiritual people only spread love so it’s very easy to tell between a person who is spiritual from a person who is purely egotistical.

 

[Vinayaka]

People think the word hate is to strong to describe something about action, words or thoughts that one self or other holds, but if you change those words to love, acceptance, peace, happiness, suddenly the words is full of wisdom. so to choose a parth of love, compassion and peace both within and outward, that can lead us to a much deeper understanding of each others.

When describing others with words as hateful or similar words, we must do it without judging the person. because as soon you judge the person you become hateful you self. that does not help to create a compassionate world

Which 'people'? Personally I find quite the variance in people, on the topic, and hesitate to generalise.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Which 'people'? Personally I find quite the variance in people, on the topic, and hesitate to generalise.

I had no spesific person in mind, But i come across many who do not like if the word hate is used

 

[Vinayaka]

I had no spesific person in mind, But i come across many who do not like if the word hate is used

I don't understand. So you dislike it if I say that there are hate groups in my city? Or you dislike it when someone says, "I hate ______." (Please note that I consider the word 'dislike' as a mild from of the word 'hate'. People will say, "I hate broccoli!" when they mean 'I dislike broccoli."

 

[Spirit of Light]

I don't understand. So you dislike it if I say that there are hate groups in my city? Or you dislike it when someone says, "I hate ______." (Please note that I consider the word 'dislike' as a mild from of the word 'hate'. People will say, "I hate broccoli!" when they mean 'I dislike broccoli."

I have no connection to the word hate, because i have transformed those feeling that was called hate to be love/compassion for every being, There are other people who do hate in the world, and they hate because they do not know Compassion (in my understanding)
If you was to call me hateful things, it does not bit on me and i no longer have a reason to feel anger or hate toward those who do me wrong.
I can not say what others should say or do. they are free to do what they wish, but i dont need to hate or dislike them because of it

 

[Stevicus]

What do you do to end hate toward other people?

To hate someone is to hate you self in a sense. because if you hate others you do not see them for who they are, you only see what you do not want them to be. (you want people to be like you)

I don't think hate exists in a vacuum. It's not as if someone just decides to hate for no reason. Hatred can be tied in and connected to other emotions, such as fear, greed, jealousy - among others. To truly end hatred, one has to end those other conditions, too - especially fear.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I don't think hate exists in a vacuum. It's not as if someone just decides to hate for no reason. Hatred can be tied in and connected to other emotions, such as fear, greed, jealousy - among others. To truly end hatred, one has to end those other conditions, too - especially fear.

Very true

 

[BSM1]

What do you do to end hate toward other people?

To hate someone is to hate you self in a sense. because if you hate others you do not see them for who they are, you only see what you do not want them to be. (you want people to be like you)

Your answer is again in your question. It would be impossible to hate others if you do not hate anything in yourself. This applies to any emotion that can be felt, imho.

I think Gandhi had it right -- Hate the sin, love the sinner.

We don't hate the rabid animal but it's dangerous and must be killed. There are humans that are dangerous as well.

They only become dangerous to you if you let them be. when you have no hate within you anymore, there are nobody who is dangerous to you

Unfortunately this is not the case. I use the analogy of reaching under a log and having a snake bite you. You don't have to hate the snake (and you can forgive him) but you sure as heck don't have to reach under the log again.

 

[Vinayaka]

I have no connection to the word hate, because i have transformed those feeling that was called hate to be love/compassion for every being, There are other people who do hate in the world, and they hate because they do not know Compassion (in my understanding)
If you was to call me hateful things, it does not bit on me and i no longer have a reason to feel anger or hate toward those who do me wrong.
I can not say what others should say or do. they are free to do what they wish, but i dont need to hate or dislike them because of it

I would say I don't hate either, although I've been accused of it, merely for disagreeing with someone. But I've also been around people who've suffered personal atrocities individually or culturally. One does not come out of those kind of situations easily. Nor do they easily come out of a lifetime of hate programming by their society for another. So I have some compassion for some haters. If you've been forced to watch your father get hacked to death by axe, and your mother and little sister get viciously raped repeatedly, it's harder. That sort of thing scars you for life.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I would say I don't hate either, although I've been accused of it, merely for disagreeing with someone. But I've also been around people who've suffered personal atrocities individually or culturally. One does not come out of those kind of situations easily. Nor do they easily come out of a lifetime of hate programming by their society for another. So I have some compassion for some haters. If you've been forced to watch your father get hacked to death by axe, and your mother and little sister get viciously raped repeatedly, it's harder. That sort of thing scars you for life.

Yes it can scare a person for life, but even how horrible that sound it is possible to forgive and show those people compassion too. Because they do something that bad, you know they will experience horrible suffering them self later. Personally i dont want anyone to feel that kind of suffering.