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The First Amendment be Damned.

Skwim

Veteran Member
It could be done legally in the context with other scriptures from other religions being covered, but if not then it's unconstitutional.
But considering the remarks made by Cherilyn Thomas in the article, what's being done is more than simply looking at Christianity, but promulgating it.


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Altfish

Veteran Member
"Using the Bible to illustrate the English language is fine."

No it is not; it is translated, incredibly old and very often vague and ambiguous. It is a horrible way to illustrate the English language, and there is other literature out there that would do a much better at illustrating the English language. People should not be using the Bible to learn how to write effectively. Maybe some of the verses might be good for poetic writing, but it is not very good for learning how to write proper prose.
I beg to differ. The King James bible is a recognised piece of English and is quoted and used in English literature.
 

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
That's what private schools are for. Kinda seems like the parents who support this the most care about religion a lot... so their kids probably hear enough about it at home anyway.

Other kids and teachers give you dirty looks and ***** at you when you don't participate in "optional" things that everyone else just follows without question. It's optional, but you're gonna feel alienated if you don't do it.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I beg to differ. The King James bible is a recognised piece of English and is quoted and used in English literature.
So has Mad magazine.

The repository contains 53 quotes from MAD Magazine.
Showing quotes 1 through 20 from MAD Magazine. Page 1 2 3.

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Politics and Government

Politicians are people who get sworn in and then cursed out.

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Growing Up

Teenagers are people who act like babies if they�re not treated like adults.

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Conflict

An argument is two people trying to get in the last word first.

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Marriage

These days the meaning of �a faithful husband� is one whose alimony checks arrive on time.

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KnowledgeOpinion

If most people said what�s on their minds, they�d be speechless.

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Miscellaneous

Good hospitality is making your guests feel at home, even when you wish they were.

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Media and News

A gossip columnist is someone who uses dirt to make a mountain out of a molehill.

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FamilyRecreation

A family vacation is when you go away with the people you need to get away from.

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Character

The world is a place that�s gone from being flat to round to crooked.

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Politics and Government

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.

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America and PatriotismFreedomPolitics and Government

America is a land which fought for freedom and then began passing laws to get rid of it.

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Money

The dollar will never fall as low as what some people will do to get it.

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Miscellaneous

We�re living in an age where lemonade is made with artificial ingredients and furniture polish is made with real lemons.

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RecreationWork

Today, too many workers spend their time trying to make their weekends meet.

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Parenting

The same parent who tells you it�s time to find yourself will also tell you to get lost.

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Intelligence

The distance between many people�s ears is a block.

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Miscellaneous

The suburbs are where they cut down all the trees and then name the streets after them.

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Money

If banks are so good with numbers, why are there always eight windows and three tellers?

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Money

It�s a good idea to save your money. One day it might be worth something again.

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Motivation

How is it that people looking for a helping hand tend to overlook the one at the end of their own arm?
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omega2xx

Well-Known Member
"It should be taught after school hours as a Bible club activity."

I would have no problem with that, personally. As long as attendance is not pushed in the school any more than any other club, and there is no tie whatsoever to judging academic performance, beyond the fact they participated in after school activities.

Agreed. I beleive some schools in the south have after school Bible clubs.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
This is the correct response. After-hours, it isn't on the taxpayer dime, and you can do whatever you want. But to bring it in during actual school time? No. A million times, no. The validity of Christianity isn't a topic for the education of children, that's a private matter to be dealt with on your own time.


Starting in junior high, I think they should have a class on comparative religions and teach the basics o what the main religions of the world teach. Student need to have things that challenge their thinking, not just fed the same old pablum.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I'm an atheist, and yet I have read the Bible completely through more than once. I own several, and still refer to them from time to time -- as I do to my Homer (Iliad and Odyssey), Virgil (Aeneas), Dante (Divine Comedy), Lee (To Kill a Mockingbird), Shakespeare (too many titles to list) and Doctorow (Ragtime) among many, many other cherished favourites. If anybody truly wishes to know who we (humanity) are, then they must read what we collectively has thought and written.

I have no difficulty with that -- if an English high school class can learn Harper Lee or E.L. Doctorow, then they can learn the Bible. And -- with this one caveat, that it is expressly called "Literature" -- the Upanishads and the Bible. (Cant' get through Upanishads myself -- they bore me -- but love the Epic of Gilgamesh, in which Noah, under the name of Utnapushtim, appears.)

See? Learning is a good thing -- even learning what people believe. Just so long as you are learning and not being indoctrinated. In any case, for those kids taught Bible inerrancy or literalism at home, you won't get them to believe it's fiction anyway -- too late for them. But even so, so what? As long as you teach that these are "stories," that they are "our stories," I say go for it.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Starting in junior high, I think they should have a class on comparative religions and teach the basics o what the main religions of the world teach. Student need to have things that challenge their thinking, not just fed the same old pablum.
100% agreed.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I don't think kids swallow the stories like they use to, so it best without it, it only causes division anyway.
 
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