Subduction Zone
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One more time. Your questions were poorly formed. That means that they are self refuting. No one needs to refute you when you refuted yourself.
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The first living thing could not have come into being by random chance, therefore, God Almighty created all things. Just 1 proof.
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Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I can't recall how many times the OP has been told that since he made these claims, it is his responsibility to prove how they are true. He hasn't done that.
Don't have to. It is your duty and responsibility to support your claims. You've said you aren't up to it. I believe you.
There is no evidence that the theory of evolution was falsified. No evidence for a global flood. No evidence that the Earth and the universe are only 6,000 years old. No evidence that abiogenesis should be rejected.
You've literally done NOTHING.
So you could not refute the hypothesis that life could have been much simpler than today in its early versions 4 billion years ago?
There goes your argument....
From the style, my initial take was that these particular threads would play out as they have. If anything that is being claimed were valid, they would be in the legitimate literature. They could and would be defended and explained and the positions supported. Nothing like that is going to happen.
What I see, I consider best described by the metaphor of pigeon chess.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
There is plenty of legitimate literature that proves recent creation by God and refutes evolution and billions of years.
When you have a false position of evolution and billions of years, try anything else by facts and truth.
Censorship is not science. It leads to propaganda and indoctrination into delusion and lies.
Colt
Well-Known Member
God did create life, just not the way the Israelites speculated in their story of origins. Genesis was written by the Hebrew priest class for consumption by the Israelites to bolster and preserve their faith and nationalism.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Actually the Bible is given by inspiration of God. But I am glad you believe that God did create life. There may be hope for you.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. - 2 Tim 3:16-17
And yet, you offer none. Explain none. Support none. Odd with all that plenty.
I have no idea what you are talking about. But empty claims are not science either or facts.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
There really isn't any. No one is advocating for censorship. But facts are facts...When debating science you need to use scientific sources. Almost all creationist sources require their writers to swear that they will not follow the scientific method. That makes them unscientific and worthless in a debate.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Too bad that you do not understand those verses. They do not support your claims.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
It is so obvious what they say. But you have a false interpretation.
I think it is your interpretation that is wrong.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Read that to yourself and learn.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, that would be you again. Do you want to break the verse down? I know of some rather obvious mistakes that you are making.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
All scripture means every last word. Correct?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No. Scripture is not even defined. You need to start out by defining that properly and supporting that claim.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Scripture is defined as the 66 books of the Holy Bible.
Definition of SCRIPTURE
the books of the Bible —often used in plural; a passage from the Bible; a body of writings considered sacred or authoritative… See the full definition
and from verse 17 and the rest of verse 16 it must be defined.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. - 2 Tim 3:16-17
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Sorry, but you are abusing the dictionary again.Scripture is defined as the 66 books of the Holy Bible.
Definition of SCRIPTURE
the books of the Bible —often used in plural; a passage from the Bible; a body of writings considered sacred or authoritative… See the full definitionwww.merriam-webster.com
and from verse 17 and the rest of verse 16 it must be defined.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. - 2 Tim 3:16-17
Don't you know how to debate at all?
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Sorry but you lack knowledge
from the dictionary
scripture
noun
scrip·ture ˈskrip(t)-shər1
a(1)
capitalized : the books of the Bible
—often used in plural
(2)
often capitalized : a passage from the Bible
b
: a body of writings considered sacred or authoritative
So it means all the words of the Holy Bible,
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. - 2 Tim 3:16-17