Spinoza's God does not represent a 'personal relationship with God.
It would be more accurate that Spinoza's God is the natural relationship with our physical existence and humanity.
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The first living thing could not have come into being by random chance, therefore, God Almighty created all things. Just 1 proof.
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It would be more accurate that Spinoza's God is the natural relationship with our physical existence and humanity.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
So you can not refute the irrefutably proofs I gave.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
See my previous post as you did nothing of the sort.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
Which one?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I'm not going to play your silly games because they do not reflect actual science.
Plus, I don't think you realize how much you are harming Christianity because of such ignorance and arrogance.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
No expansion, then red shift explanation is false.
No expansion, then no Big Bang.
Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests | Sci.News
According to a team of astrophysicists led by Eric Lerner from Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, the Universe is not expanding at all.
www.sci.news
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
If you actually read your own link, it does not say the BB did not happen, only that the correlation between the expansion rate and redshift isn't that simple. IOW, they relate, but not necessarily in the same proportion as previously hypothesized.No expansion, then red shift explanation is false.
No expansion, then no Big Bang.
Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests | Sci.News
According to a team of astrophysicists led by Eric Lerner from Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, the Universe is not expanding at all.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You still do not know how to find proper scientific sources. Just because one scientist disagrees with an idea does not mean that it has been refuted. And you almost certainly do not even understand Newtonian physics. Worse yet you refuse to learn the basics of science. That means you are in no position to judge any articles.No expansion, then red shift explanation is false.
No expansion, then no Big Bang.
Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests | Sci.News
According to a team of astrophysicists led by Eric Lerner from Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, the Universe is not expanding at all.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
The headline says it may not be expanding. That would make the proportion 0.
The redshift is supposed to be from expansion.
If there is no expansion, there was no Big Bang.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You are misreading it as it doesn't say that.
McBell
Unbound
If you had read past the headline, you would know just how embarrassed you should be.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
And here is another questioning whether the Big Bang really happened.
Did the big bang really happen?
Is it time to admit that the idea of a big bang just does not stack up? Marcus Chown meets the doubters thinking the unthinkable
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Well there's your problem. You need to read the article. The headline is usually not even written by the author. An editor quite often does that. When it comes to popular science magazines you would be surprised at how often the headline does not match the article.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Another article that can be refuted with a "So what?"And here is another questioning whether the Big Bang really happened.
Did the big bang really happen?
Is it time to admit that the idea of a big bang just does not stack up? Marcus Chown meets the doubters thinking the unthinkablewww.newscientist.com
You have no clue as to whether those scientists can support their claims or not.
Do you know what it takes as a minimum to refute the Big Bang? At the very least you need some science that has gone through peer review. That shows that their research does not have any basic mistakes. They could still be wrong, but desperately scrambling for titles of popular science articles does not count as a refutation.
McBell
Unbound
Again, if you had read past the headline...And here is another questioning whether the Big Bang really happened.
Did the big bang really happen?
Is it time to admit that the idea of a big bang just does not stack up? Marcus Chown meets the doubters thinking the unthinkable
Of course, I did not even have to read the whole article to see that it does not support you claim in way shape or form.
Mostly because the majority of the article is behind a paywall.
But I am willing to bet you did not even know about the paywall when you linked it.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
There are more articles and the editor doe snot just comment fraud.
The Big Bang Never Happened: A Conclusive Argument
For over 100 years, the prevailing belief has been that the universe was created by a big bang singularity. This speculative event is an impossibility that..
www.tsijournals.com
Did the big bang really happen?
Is it time to admit that the idea of a big bang just does not stack up? Marcus Chown meets the doubters thinking the unthinkable
Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests | Sci.News
According to a team of astrophysicists led by Eric Lerner from Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, the Universe is not expanding at all.
www.sci.news
Quasar with enormous redshift found embedded in nearby spiral galaxy with far lower redshift
Creation or evolution? It makes a big difference! Over 10,000 trustworthy articles. Evidence for biblical creation.
The Big Bang Bust-Up
Earlier this summer, an article by Eric Lerner put the dominant theory about the origin of the universe into question. On October 1st, at the HowTheLightGetsIn festival in London, Lerner took part in a live debate on “Cosmology and the Big Bust”, alongside theoretical physicist Julian Barbour...
iai.tv
The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang - LPP Fusion
A Summary from LPPFusion, Inc.
www.lppfusion.com
McBell
Unbound
Please summarize the articles.There are more articles and the editor doe snot just comment fraud.
The Big Bang Never Happened: A Conclusive Argument
For over 100 years, the prevailing belief has been that the universe was created by a big bang singularity. This speculative event is an impossibility that..
Did the big bang really happen?
Is it time to admit that the idea of a big bang just does not stack up? Marcus Chown meets the doubters thinking the unthinkable
Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests | Sci.News
According to a team of astrophysicists led by Eric Lerner from Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, the Universe is not expanding at all.
Quasar with enormous redshift found embedded in nearby spiral galaxy with far lower redshift
Creation or evolution? It makes a big difference! Over 10,000 trustworthy articles. Evidence for biblical creation.creation.com
The Big Bang Bust-Up
Earlier this summer, an article by Eric Lerner put the dominant theory about the origin of the universe into question. On October 1st, at the HowTheLightGetsIn festival in London, Lerner took part in a live debate on “Cosmology and the Big Bust”, alongside theoretical physicist Julian Barbour...
The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang - LPP Fusion
A Summary from LPPFusion, Inc.
I ask because you have been known to merely present links based solely on the headlines.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Nope. That is not how science is done.There are more articles and the editor doe snot just comment fraud.
The Big Bang Never Happened: A Conclusive Argument
For over 100 years, the prevailing belief has been that the universe was created by a big bang singularity. This speculative event is an impossibility that..
Did the big bang really happen?
Is it time to admit that the idea of a big bang just does not stack up? Marcus Chown meets the doubters thinking the unthinkable
Universe is Not Expanding After All, Controversial Study Suggests | Sci.News
According to a team of astrophysicists led by Eric Lerner from Lawrenceville Plasma Physics, the Universe is not expanding at all.
Quasar with enormous redshift found embedded in nearby spiral galaxy with far lower redshift
Creation or evolution? It makes a big difference! Over 10,000 trustworthy articles. Evidence for biblical creation.
The Big Bang Bust-Up
Earlier this summer, an article by Eric Lerner put the dominant theory about the origin of the universe into question. On October 1st, at the HowTheLightGetsIn festival in London, Lerner took part in a live debate on “Cosmology and the Big Bust”, alongside theoretical physicist Julian Barbour...
The Scientific Evidence Against the Big Bang - LPP Fusion
A Summary from LPPFusion, Inc.
All that you keep confirming is your own scientific illiteracy. Were any of those articles peer reviewed? Oh, they weren't? Then what articles were based upon peer reviewed science and what were those articles? If you cannot answer those questions you have admitted to posting nonsense that does not support you.
SavedByTheLord
Well-Known Member
There are 6 articles. Why would anyone question the gospel truth about the redshift, and the Big Bang.
They are fleeing from that false theory.