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savagewind

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I would like to know what "they believe in the lord" means to you. Please
Yet they believe in the lord. So how can they not be saved? Should we be so quick to judge? One might say there is only ONE truth. but if that is so, who is saved?
 

savagewind

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I have seen that there is a belief in God which means the believer trusts in God to do the right thing by the believer. But that is not what "they believe in the lord" means to you. Is it?

Some people believe that God will save them because they believe God will save them.
 

savagewind

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I am not bragging when I say that I might learn to imitate a master's stroke. On the other hand, I am certain I can't ever create a painting worth keeping. Can you please see the difference between every and whole?

I will help. Every stroke will be saved is what some people think. The fabulous picture will be saved which is what I think.

Actually a stroke can be painted over. If you paint over a picture it will be hidden under another picture. I have heard that a picture which is under another picture has been revealed and saved and I think it is wonderful that people can do that.

Just so you know, I remembered the word I heard. Just so you know.
 
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Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I would like to know what "they believe in the lord" means to you. Please
What they believe? I know that there are many versions of Christ; but the scripture says if you believe in the son you will be saved. Now, it could be as the OT that there is a lying spirit in their mouth or that the scribes have handled the word of God falsely; but it could also be that they believing means they are saved; otherwise the text means nothing.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I have seen that there is a belief in God which means the believer trusts in God to do the right thing by the believer. But that is not what "they believe in the lord" means to you. Is it?

Some people believe that God will save them because they believe God will save them.
Belief is God given -Eph 2- You are saved by grace through faith, and that is not of yourself, if is the GIFT OF GOD. Thus the one that believes is inspired and initiated by God. Who are we then to condemn?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I am not bragging when I say that I might learn to imitate a master's stroke. On the other hand, I am certain I can't ever create a painting worth keeping. Can you please see the difference between every and whole?

I will help. Every stroke will be saved is what some people think. The fabulous picture will be saved which is what I think.

Actually a stroke can be painted over. If you paint over a picture it will be hidden under another picture. I have heard that a picture which is under another picture has been revealed and saved and I think it is wonderful that people can do that.

Just so you know, I remembered the word I heard. Just so you know.
The Text says that Christ is the saviour of the world. Now ask yourself, did he acheive what he set out to do. He was sent by God and he is God's son. Do we think that he did not save the world? The text says he is the saviour. He did not fail.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I have seen that there is a belief in God which means the believer trusts in God to do the right thing by the believer. But that is not what "they believe in the lord" means to you. Is it?

Some people believe that God will save them because they believe God will save them.
If all things are of God, then where do they go when they die? If they can only return to him, will he not care about them?
 

savagewind

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What they believe? I know that there are many versions of Christ; but the scripture says if you believe in the son you will be saved. Now, it could be as the OT that there is a lying spirit in their mouth or that the scribes have handled the word of God falsely; but it could also be that they believing means they are saved; otherwise the text means nothing.
You are free to sit with the great teacher to learn because you believe he is worthy to teach and to be honored for his teaching so you sit with him because you believe in his ability to teach you but as you do your mind is elsewhere and you are not hearing him. Is that you believing in him? You seem to be saying yes but I am disagreeing with you.

To believe in him is to listen, learn and obey. If they are not listening to him to learn from him and to obey HIM, then they are not believing in him.

Holy Scripture defines the Son of God. Correct?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
You are free to sit with the great teacher to learn because you believe he is worthy to teach and to be honored for his teaching so you sit with him because you believe in his ability to teach you but as you do your mind is elsewhere and you are not hearing him. Is that you believing in him? You seem to be saying yes but I am disagreeing with you.

To believe in him is to listen, learn and obey. If they are not listening to him to learn from him and to obey HIM, then they are not believing in him.

Holy Scripture defines the Son of God. Correct?
But they will say that they do listen; they will say that they listen sufficiently to go on the doors; they will say they listen sufficiently enough to have bible studies. The text says that if you believe in the lord and call on his name, you will be saved. Is the text correct? Yes! So are they saved? How can they not be.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
John 3:16

You speak of the future saying, "will he" but he has (past tense).
But the future is what we speak of, not the past. The past is the crucifixion that we carry around with us. If God is just, why would he lie to them?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Tell us the definition of The Son of God.
Good question. I don't know. Does anyone. Know one knows the father except the son and no one knows the son except the father. But he chooses to reveal himself to some. Yet many have different ideas on who he is. So which is right? Or are there more than one? If not, then many are wrong, and the lord is not the saviour of the world. Strikes me, that the son of God would probably be good at his job. I think the world is saved, it just takes time.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
What must a person be doing to place faith in God?
Faith is from grace and is God given. What we do is believe in the son. But even that is God given. We can do nothing accept follow what already has happened. There is nothing new under the sun said the wise man...as it is written.
They have their God. Is there God the same as the Church God, the Anglican God, the Catholic God, the Islamic God, yours, mine? Tell me.
 

savagewind

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Faith is from grace and is God given. What we do is believe in the son. But even that is God given. We can do nothing accept follow what already has happened. There is nothing new under the sun said the wise man...as it is written.
They have their God. Is there God the same as the Church God, the Anglican God, the Catholic God, the Islamic God, yours, mine? Tell me.
There is only one God. Does The True God require exclusive devotion of us? Yes, it is what Jesus Christ taught. You must love the Lord your God with ALL the heart, mind, soul and strength. So their God is my God but no one is exclusively devoted to God like we are supposed to be imho.

God is love. Correct? So then really we must god God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. (you read it right) I agree with you that no one knows if another one is doing it or not.

BUT

They say and proclaim to the whole world that I am not doing it. And YOU are not doing it......and the Catholics are not doing it.......and the Muslims are not doing it.....and the Unity of Christ Church isn't doing it.......and that they themselves can't even do it right without the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

They are warning us to get with them so that God can save us. I am warning them that they must get with Christ so that God can save them. I am not proclaiming it to the whole world. Just you and that guy at the Washington Post. Why? Haha. Not because it is funny but because there is a hot line there for the reporting of abusing power.
 
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