The fool has said

[savagewind]

You can do nothing except the Father enable you.

agree (happy?)

 

[savagewind]

The Text defines it to us as man; but the father defines the son in reality.

OK. I do not disagree. I do not know though what it means much.

 

[savagewind]

Good question. I don't know. Does anyone. Know one knows the father except the son and no one knows the son except the father. But he chooses to reveal himself to some. Yet many have different ideas on who he is. So which is right? Or are there more than one? If not, then many are wrong, and the lord is not the saviour of the world. Strikes me, that the son of God would probably be good at his job. I think the world is saved, it just takes time.

Define the son of God: The Word. Get the word wrong get Jesus Christ wrong. That is math. Math is static.

 

[savagewind]

But the future is what we speak of, not the past. The past is the crucifixion that we carry around with us. If God is just, why would he lie to them?

I am afraid of speaking like that of God Almighty.

 

[savagewind]

But they will say that they do listen; they will say that they listen sufficiently to go on the doors; they will say they listen sufficiently enough to have bible studies. The text says that if you believe in the lord and call on his name, you will be saved. Is the text correct? Yes! So are they saved? How can they not be.

Notice you left off the question mark. LOL

 

[Robert.Evans]

There is only one God.

Ultimately yes.... but if there is only one aspect to him, then how does he have a son of God or the elohiym in the divine assembly in Isaiah? So there is more than one aspect, more than one God, otherwise how do we see evil?

Does The True God require exclusive devotion of us? Yes, it is what Jesus Christ taught. You must love the Lord your God with ALL the heart, mind, soul and strength. So their God is my God but no one is exclusively devoted to God like we are supposed to be imho.

Inclusive love to God is through the soul and through the saviour. As man, as flesh, we are corrupt and flawed, and do the best we can do. What is within is hidden and that is pure and loves with all the heart. The heart is source.

God is love. Correct? So then really we must god God with all our heart, mind, soul and strength. (you read it right) I agree with you that no one knows if another one is doing it or not.

So if God is love, how then does he make the blind blind? So we see God is more complex than we think, and maybe he is manyfold in understandings. This would answer your next comments

BUT

They say and proclaim to the whole world that I am not doing it. And YOU are not doing it......and the Catholics are not doing it.......and the Muslims are not doing it.....and the Unity of Christ Church isn't doing it.......and that they themselves can't even do it right without the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

They are warning us to get with them so that God can save us. I am warning them that they must get with Christ so that God can save them. I am not proclaiming it to the whole world. Just you and that guy at the Washington Post. Why? Haha. Not because it is funny but because there is a hot line there for the reporting of abusing power.

But each one says that. You say it. I say it. So either we are lied to, or we are all equally right and equally wrong. Either the Text is right or it is wrong; and if it is wrong, then your faith is void and your life waste. But I say it is not wrong and that each, to his own reality, is saved. I think salvation is far more complicated than we think.

 

[Robert.Evans]

I am afraid of speaking like that of God Almighty.

That is a good thought to have I think.
So then who do we talk about? We read the same scriture and come up with different answers, answers that are from grace through faith. So what are we, but pawns in a bigger game; what is inside is important, not what is without. That is temporal.

 

[Robert.Evans]

OK. I do not disagree. I do not know though what it means much.

The son is within, hidden, invisible, yet reality and all things are held together in him. You are part of the whole and are the whole. What is within is the real you. What is on the outside is dead.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Define the son of God: The Word. Get the word wrong get Jesus Christ wrong. That is math. Math is static.

But if you get another understanding of the lord, would that not be the one you get? Is God more complex than we think? It says , Do not judge. If we take that as it is stated, (even though Paul said after the spirit we could) then surely they are saved as we all are. Does not Paul say the same of that, that we should not judge a brother who the lord has accepted? Does it matter if I think someone is fat and you think they are thin ? Is it not that we believe in the first place?

Math..yuk! "Maths" plural!

 

[savagewind]

But each one says that. You say it. I say it. So either we are lied to, or we are all equally right and equally wrong. Either the Text is right or it is wrong; and if it is wrong, then your faith is void and your life waste. But I say it is not wrong and that each, to his own reality, is saved. I think salvation is far more complicated than we think.

OH MY GOD. I told you not to say people do not listen when you speak because you don't listen when people speak.

I DO NOT SAY THEY DON'T AND I NEVER, EVER HAVE SAID IT. I SAID, "NOBODY KNOWS IF SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING IT OR NOT"

I have said that the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses are not doing it and I have given plenty of proof why I think so. Might I be wrong? Yes, because of my rule that you choose to ignore, NOBODY knows when someone else is doing it.

Pay attention boy!

 

[savagewind]

That is a good thought to have I think.
So then who do we talk about? We read the same scriture and come up with different answers, answers that are from grace through faith. So what are we, but pawns in a bigger game; what is inside is important, not what is without. That is temporal.

Every living soul is from the world. God through Jesus Christ saves the world. Do the math PLEASE.

 

[savagewind]

But if you get another understanding of the lord, would that not be the one you get? Is God more complex than we think? It says , Do not judge. If we take that as it is stated, (even though Paul said after the spirit we could) then surely they are saved as we all are. Does not Paul say the same of that, that we should not judge a brother who the lord has accepted? Does it matter if I think someone is fat and you think they are thin ? Is it not that we believe in the first place?

Math..yuk! "Maths" plural!

No, no, no, no no. I did not make up that Jesus is the word. The Bible says it. And the word commands "to listen". What else can we listen to but words....and music,,,,,and cows mooing...........dogs barking................................and other stuff

 

[Robert.Evans]

OH MY GOD. I told you not to say people do not listen when you speak because you don't listen when people speak.

I DO NOT SAY THEY DON'T AND I NEVER, EVER HAVE SAID IT. I SAID, "NOBODY KNOWS IF SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING IT OR NOT"

I have said that the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses are not doing it and I have given plenty of proof why I think so. Might I be wrong? Yes, because of my rule that you choose to ignore, NOBODY knows when someone else is doing it.

Pay attention boy!

You said:

BUT

They say and proclaim to the whole world that I am not doing it. And YOU are not doing it......and the Catholics are not doing it.......and the Muslims are not doing it.....and the Unity of Christ Church isn't doing it.

Pay attention girl!

 

[savagewind]

Am I all alone knowing there is a difference between individuals and groups?

 

[Robert.Evans]

No, no, no, no no. I did not make up that Jesus is the word. The Bible says it. And the word commands "to listen". What else can we listen to but words....and music,,,,,and cows mooing...........dogs barking................................and other stuff

Everybody says they listen. You say it, I say it, then we argue

 

[savagewind]

You said:

Pay attention girl!

Please, they say the individuals of organizations that are not their organization are not doing it.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Every living soul is from the world. God through Jesus Christ saves the world. Do the math PLEASE.

What are you saying here? Are you agreeing with me?

 

[savagewind]

Everybody says they listen. You say it, I say it, then we argue

No, everyone does not say they listen. I was a JW. OK? Most people do not listen. Most people are not chronic liars.

 

[savagewind]

What are you saying here? Are you agreeing with me?

No. If God saves only one person out of the world the world is saved. Just one. There will be more than one. I am sure.

Think seed. One seed (or two ) taken off the planet to live somewhere else when Earth disintegrates saves that species.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Please, they say the individuals of organizations that are not their organization are not doing it.

I know that. But everyone else says the same thing about their own respective religion. That is what I am saying. It is obvious that they would say that about theirs otherwise they would not be JW in the first place.