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The gay-bashing capital of Europe

Smoke

Done here.
So I have plenty of reason to present myself as an object of pity. I have plenty of reason to feel like a victim, but I don't. I'm content with what I have and I don't curse God for making me the way I am.
I don't curse God any more than I curse Bullwinkle, and I'm not asking for your pity, you condescending ****. I'm asking for equal rights under the law.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
So, your rhetoric smacks of the old sentiment: "queers are okay if they know their place." That we should only gripe so much. And that we're not REALLY victims of anything horrible. No?

I don't know what it's like to be you. I think that's all I can say before I do this :foot: .
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
If i was a gay person i'd love to watch every institution in existance that tried to prevent my rights from being equal to those of straight people burn to the ground and the people that supported these institutions put out of their ignorant, self absorbed missery.

The sad thing its religious groups or religious based groups often opposed to equality. What hypocrisy. Shame on those who judge others for what they do behind closed doors.
 

AuroraWillow

Druid of the Olive
If i was a gay person i'd love to watch every institution in existance that tried to prevent my rights from being equal to those of straight people burn to the ground and the people that supported these institutions put out of their ignorant, self absorbed missery.

That's pretty harsh.
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
That's pretty harsh.

Probably, yes. Then again, after so many years of persecution and even in this modern world such petty intolerance of gay people what do they expect.

I'm not even gay and i despise the people who so openly hate gays for being gay. Its just so childish and needless. Hate for the sake of hating.
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
I don't curse God any more than I curse Bullwinkle, and I'm not asking for your pity, you condescending ****. I'm asking for equal rights under the law.

If it were up to me, you'd have equal rights under the law. I am not bothered by the existence of LGBTQ people, nor do I feel any compulsion to make their lives miserable. If I'm out walking in the park and I see two dudes holding hands, I'm happy for them! :) Puts a smile on my face to know that they found each other in such a hostile world, with so many people who hate them for what they are. I think about how I would feel if I were gay. What would I do? How would I cope? How would I survive?
 

Midnight Pete

Well-Known Member
If i was a gay person i'd love to watch every institution in existance that tried to prevent my rights from being equal to those of straight people burn to the ground and the people that supported these institutions put out of their ignorant, self absorbed missery.

This is the Dark Side. Fear, Anger, Hatred. :yoda:
 

Bismillah

Submit
I'm not sure what's trending in Europe, but in America hostility against Muslims is certainly increasing.

CAIRO – Beaten severely by his classmates and called a “terrorist”, a Muslim teen has tasted the latest episode of the growing anti-Muslims hostility in the United States.
"They punched me. They spit in my face,” Kristian, 16, told The New York Post on Tuesday, October 12.
“They tripped me on the floor. They kicked me with their feet and punched me.
“And as they were kicking and laughing, they kept saying, 'You f- - -ing terrorist, f- - -ing Muslim, you f- - -ing terrorist,'" recalled Kristian.
The young student was repeatedly bullied by his classmates for no apparent reason but being Muslim.
His daily nightmare began in October 2009 when he was a student at the Edwin Markham Intermediate School on Staten Island in New York City.
He was repeatedly beaten and abused by his classmates.
"You came here to burn our buildings down. People can't get jobs because of you," they used to tell him.
In one incident, the Muslim boy, who hails from Trinidad, was brutally hit in his groin by his classmates, leaving him bleeding.
The bullying is the latest episode of the growing anti-Muslim sentiments across the US.
The anti-Muslim frenzy has been on the rise following plans to build a mosque near the 9/11 site in New York.
The hostility has resulted in a series of attacks on Muslims and their property, including the stabbing of a cab driver for no apparent reason other than being Muslim.
Outraged
The bullying has left deep psychological scars on the Muslim boy.
"He was a normal all-American kid," says his father.
"He'd look at TV, watch movies, play on the computer -- regular stuff. But all of a sudden there was no emotion," he lamented.
“Sometimes he was outraged, and we'd have no idea why. We had no idea what was happening."
Despite his ordeal, Kristian kept quiet, hoping his suffering would come to an end when he moves to another school.
But his hopes were dashed when he found two of his tormentors at the Port Richmond HS.
"I can't go through a year like this again."
He finally broke his silence and told his parents about his daily suffering at the hands of his classmates.
Four of his tormentors have since been arrested.
"I'm feeling good," asserts Kristian, who wants to be a computer technician.
"I'm hoping I can go back to my old self because now I got everything out in the open."


It's a regrettable fact that certain groups will always be targeted within society. Getting to know your neighbor and appreciating instead of alienating those who are different than you would certainly do wonders.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Originally Posted by Midnight Pete
Let me elaborate on that last thing I said. The fact of Smoke's homosexuality is not what upsets me. What upsets me is someone who always finds a way to relate everything back to their real or perceived victim status.


Hey - HEY!
I don't see Smoke playing the victim. In fact, I NEVER see Smoke playing the victim. This thread is ABOUT gays in Europe being victimized by intolerant religious radicals (in this case aka radical Muslims). So I don't think it's inappropriate in any way for a gay man to give his perspective on the situation.
 

Yona

Frum Mastah Flex
If you can't manage any comment but calling names, that's fine with me.

I can, if need be but I have little motivation to do so but alright, I will do so, when you can prove to me why brown people and Islam are to blame and not just certain specific individuals for this. Christian Europeans do the same. It isn't specfic community. Violence happens, it's sad, yeah but it happens but why are you blaming brown people and Islam?

Call me a racist. I dislike the "race" of violent religious bigots. I dislike the "race" of people who cannot tolerate the idea of a pluralistic society and act out their intolerance in violent ways.

So Muslims are a borg-like people? Hmm? OH NO, those brown people are inherently dangerous and violent people, beware gayz, mini-skirt wearing chickz, and Jooooz!! DEH GOOOOON KEEEL YO!! Come on, this is ridiculous for more than one reason mind you.
 

Smoke

Done here.
I can, if need be but I have little motivation to do so but alright, I will do so, when you can prove to me why brown people and Islam are to blame and not just certain specific individuals for this. Christian Europeans do the same. It isn't specfic community. Violence happens, it's sad, yeah but it happens but why are you blaming brown people and Islam?

So Muslims are a borg-like people? Hmm? OH NO, those brown people are inherently dangerous and violent people, beware gayz, mini-skirt wearing chickz, and Jooooz!! DEH GOOOOON KEEEL YO!! Come on, this is ridiculous for more than one reason mind you.
I didn't say anything like the things you're accusing me of saying, and frankly I find your take on what I said so absurd -- so unbelievably stupid -- that I don't see any point in trying to clarify it for you. I don't give a damn what you think of me, and we can talk regardless of that. But if you want to discuss anything with me, you're going to have to bring your own brain.
 
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