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The god of the Bible should be seeking forgiveness

Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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leov said:
It is, by changing human consciousness.
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Yes... although in Christian circles it is a little more compound than just our consciousness. It is a metamorphosis through the renewing of our minds after connecting with the Creator manifesting in a spiritual rebirth.
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
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Nakosis said:
Why did God let it get so out of hand in the first place?
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Because the world was a gift where He said... "It belongs to you" (paraphrased).

So, in reality, it is man that lets it get so out of hand.

At least in accordance to our scriptures.

Other religions might have a different take.
 
leov

leov

Well-Known Member
KenS said:
Yes... although in Christian circles it is a little more compound than just our consciousness. It is a metamorphosis through the renewing of our minds after connecting with the Creator manifesting in a spiritual rebirth.
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It's called Christ Consciousness which we are after.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Amanaki said:
You put you self above god?
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One that is so cruel and malevolent like Jehovah I will gladly proclaim that we humans have achieved a sense of morality and ethics that far exceeds his. Indeed, we are better than him.
 
We Never Know

We Never Know

No Slack
Shadow Wolf said:
I will. No one or thing should be considered exempt or off limits from having their actions and motivations questioned and challenged.
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Even mythical beings? Do you ever ever question and challenge the actions of the tooth fairy? Santa? The easter bunny? Or just a god? Just curious :)
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
We Never Know said:
Even mythical beings? Do you ever ever question and challenge the actions of the tooth fairy? Santa? The easter bunny? Or just a god? Just curious :)
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Normally, no. It's like hating a non existing thing. But when someone says Jehovah is moral and just, I will challenge the claim. Asserting the superior morality of humans today is one of the ways I do this. Of course it basically saying we're more moral today than our bronze age ancestors, but the claim is it's not human morality from then, but gods just and righteous judgements.
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
KenS said:
Because the world was a gift where He said... "It belongs to you" (paraphrased).

So, in reality, it is man that lets it get so out of hand.

At least in accordance to our scriptures.

Other religions might have a different take.
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If it belongs to us then what is the problem. Ownership means you can screws things up without being accountable to anyone other than yourself.

Of course that is my opinion. My Boss has an entirely different idea in mind when they tell me to take ownership of a project.
 
We Never Know

We Never Know

No Slack
Shadow Wolf said:
Normally, no. It's like hating a non existing thing. But when someone says Jehovah is moral and just, I will challenge the claim. Asserting the superior morality of humans today is one of the ways I do this. Of course it basically saying we're more moral today than our bronze age ancestors, but the claim is it's not human morality from then, but gods just and righteous judgements.
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God is as mythical to me as santa is.
I don't attack and call santa names for the same reason I don't attack and call god names. It's pointless to attack mythical beings, it's not even sane to do so IMO. Maybe some of you have a self-conscious belief that you hide or are unaware of.

For example, no one attacks the ghosts in their room unless they believe in ghosts.
 
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sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
JJ50 said:
If the god character in the Bible exists, and all the unpleasant things attributed to it have any credence, it should be on its knees begging the human race to forgive it.

It beggars belief that some look upon the god character as good and a god of love. If it was a human it would be vilified for its evil character, prosecuted and either spend the whole of its life incarcerated, or even executed.

Now I await the excuses some Christians will come up with, in order to exonerate it.
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What sorts of “unpleasant things” has God done? Is God still seen as doing those things now? Whose viewpoint is expressed in these stories? What is the nature of the stories? What kind of literature? Who wrote them? Are they intended to be literal, factual accounts, or are they mythic in nature? How has the viewpoint of the faithful changed since the stories came about? Do we portray God in different ways now? In what ways do the depictions of God reflect the human cultures who wrote about God in the texts?
 
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