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"The kingdom of God is within you"

Johnlove

Active Member
Read the scripture below, because you obviously don’t understand first John’s letter.


(1 John 1: 8-10) “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liarand his word has no place in our lives.”



You need to see John was saying if one says he or she says they have never sinned they are liars.



If one is forgiven of all unrighteousness are they not then sinless?


Could they then be liars if they say they are sinless?



(1 John 3:3-9) “Surely everyone who entertains this hope must purify himself, must try to be as pure as Christ. Any one who sins at all breaks the law, because to sin is to seen Him or known Him. My children do not let anyone lead you astray’ to live a holy life is to be holy just as He is holy’ to lead a sinful life is to belong the Devil, since the Devil was a sinner from the beginning. It was to undo all that the Devil has done that the Son of God appeared. No one who has been begotten by God sins: because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God.”



(1 John 3:8) “He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work”



John told us those who did not know God sinned and asked forgiveness and were forgiven, but once a person comes to know God he or she will not sin.



Scripture goes on to say that if a person who does know God uses their free will to sin there is no repentance for that person.


(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three; and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment. We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will vindicate his people. It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.”


(Hebrews 6: 4) “As for those people who were once brought into the light, and tasted the gift from heaven, and received a share of the Holy Spirit, and appreciated the good message of God and the powers of the world to come and yet in spite of this have fallen away it is impossible for that to be renewed a second time. They cannot be repentant if they have willfully crucified the Son of God and openly mocked Him.”
 

Johnlove

Active Member
How Jesus lived/walked does not need to be explained anyone other than to some retarded people.


I don’t need to explain what born again Christian can’t sin means.


John explains it very clearly.


(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”


There was a time when I would feel sorry for one who believed himself or herself to be intelligent, and are just totally misinformed.


These people would believe that anything they did, whatever evil was committed by them was already forgiven.


They had the true way, and everyone else was misinformed.


Such people would give evasive answers and thought they were bright.


I would overlook their ignorance, and keep on being friendly with them.


I no longer feel sorry for such people God’s wrath is coming down on those people, and all I can do is glorify God for doing what is just.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I think we are not communicating.

Do you understand that to murder is a sin? But do you know to ignore the plight of the least of Jesus' followers is also a sin?

Are you posting about GROSS sins or any sin?

I think that whenever I am not being the best I can be I am sinning. Am I the best I can be? I do not think so. Are you?
 

Johnlove

Active Member
The only way one can be what God want him or her to be is to allow God to dictate his or her life.

To do that one has to have the Holy Spirit.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The only way one can be what God want him or her to be is to allow God to dictate his or her life.

I think God does not want to dictate a human life.

The Truth will Set You Free
John 8: 31So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

To do that one has to have the Holy Spirit.
The only way to accomplish my bit of God's will be done is to submit to the Holy Spirit.
 

Johnlove

Active Member
I think God does not want to dictate a human life.

The Truth will Set You Free
John 8: 31So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; 32and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."

The only way to accomplish my bit of God's will be done is to submit to the Holy Spirit.
The only way one can be what God want him or her to be is to allow God to dictate his or her life.

To do that one has to have the Holy Spirit.


There is only one way to enter the kingdom of Heaven. That way is to live the Word of God.


The only way to live the Word of God is to allow the Holy Spirit to teach and give one the grace to live the Word.


(Romans 8: 4) “He did this in order that the law’s just demands might be satisfied in us, who behave not as our unspiritual nature but as the Spirit dictates.”

(Romans 8: 4-5) “This was so that the Law's requirements might be fully satisfied in us as we direct our lives not by our natural inclinations but by the Spirit.”
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The only way one can be what God want him or her to be is to allow God to dictate his or her life.
Is this your idea or did you learn it from Jesus?

A fruit of the spirit is self control. God dictating your life is GOD control.
 

Johnlove

Active Member
Is this your idea or did you learn it from Jesus?

A fruit of the spirit is self control. God dictating your life is GOD control.
God dictates, but he or she makes the decision to obey. The only way one can make such decision is to receive the grace from God to do so.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
God dictates, but he or she makes the decision to obey. The only way one can make such decision is to receive the grace from God to do so.
Sir, with all due respect, if you can't hear the words of other people to understand them how are we to believe you are hearing from The Spirit of God to understand them?
 

Johnlove

Active Member
Sir, with all due respect, if you can't hear the words of other people to understand them how are we to believe you are hearing from The Spirit of God to understand them?
The Holy Spirit once told me to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God, be it a priest, bishop, or anyone they were to ask Jesus if it is right or wrong.


You make a statement that I don’t hear other people, and you have no way to know if that is true or not.


Why do you believe that you have that right?


Were you being loving?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The Holy Spirit once told me to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God, be it a priest, bishop, or anyone they were to ask Jesus if it is right or wrong.
I believe this is true and the right way


You make a statement that I don’t hear other people, and you have no way to know if that is true or not.
You have not heard me ask a question "What sins?". Or you saw the question but choose not to answer it which to me means the same as not listening.


Why do you believe that you have that right?
I do not.


Were you being loving?
I do not know. I am being honest.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I know the Bible says "speak truth to one another".

Ephesians 4:25
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body.

I do not know that it says to speak love to one another. So when I don't know something I look it up. And love is what I find! I like love too.

Ephesians 4:15
Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.

It seems some people think love means to agree but I do not think it means that.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
There is only one way to enter the kingdom of Heaven. That way is to live the Word of God.

First, according to 1st Cor. 15:50, ' flesh ' (physical ) can Not enter the kingdom.......
So, in order to go to heaven one would have to be resurrected to heaven in a spirit body.
Those ' called ' to heaven have a first or earlier resurrection - Rev. 20:6 - then the rest.
The rest, or majority of mankind, have a future physical resurrection - Acts 24:15
So, besides ' live the Word of God ' one would have to be ' called ' to heavenly life.
No one who died before Jesus died - John 3:13 - they are Not ever called to heaven.
That includes King David mentioned at Acts 2:34
Those ' called ' to heaven do Not become angels but are saints or holy ones - Romans 1:6,7
They comprise being part of the saints or holy ones mentioned at Daniel chapter 7.
They are part of the ' little flock ' of Luke 12:32
They are Jesus' spiritual brothers - Matthew 25:40 - who are ' called ' to that heavenly position.
- Rev. 20:6; 5:9,10: 2:10 - ' called ' to be kings and priests over earth with Christ for a thousand years over the earthly subjects of God's kingdom, the ' other sheep ' of John 10:16; Matthew 25:31,32- they are the majority of mankind who will inherit the earthly realm of God's kingdom. - Psalm 37:11,29; 72:8,12-14

- see Romans 8:27-30 'called '
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
First, according to 1st Cor. 15:50, ' flesh ' (physical ) can Not enter the kingdom.......
So, in order to go to heaven one would have to be resurrected to heaven in a spirit body.
Those ' called ' to heaven have a first or earlier resurrection - Rev. 20:6 - then the rest.
The rest, or majority of mankind, have a future physical resurrection - Acts 24:15
So, besides ' live the Word of God ' one would have to be ' called ' to heavenly life.
No one who died before Jesus died - John 3:13 - they are Not ever called to heaven.
That includes King David mentioned at Acts 2:34
Those ' called ' to heaven do Not become angels but are saints or holy ones - Romans 1:6,7
They comprise being part of the saints or holy ones mentioned at Daniel chapter 7.
They are part of the ' little flock ' of Luke 12:32
They are Jesus' spiritual brothers - Matthew 25:40 - who are ' called ' to that heavenly position.
- Rev. 20:6; 5:9,10: 2:10 - ' called ' to be kings and priests over earth with Christ for a thousand years over the earthly subjects of God's kingdom, the ' other sheep ' of John 10:16; Matthew 25:31,32- they are the majority of mankind who will inherit the earthly realm of God's kingdom. - Psalm 37:11,29; 72:8,12-14

- see Romans 8:27-30 'called '
I think it would be good to sign that; Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
 

Johnlove

Active Member
I know the Bible says "speak truth to one another".

Ephesians 4:25
Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body.

I do not know that it says to speak love to one another. So when I don't know something I look it up. And love is what I find! I like love too.

Ephesians 4:15
Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ.

It seems some people think love means to agree but I do not think it means that.
First, according to 1st Cor. 15:50, ' flesh ' (physical ) can Not enter the kingdom.......
So, in order to go to heaven one would have to be resurrected to heaven in a spirit body.
Those ' called ' to heaven have a first or earlier resurrection - Rev. 20:6 - then the rest.
The rest, or majority of mankind, have a future physical resurrection - Acts 24:15
So, besides ' live the Word of God ' one would have to be ' called ' to heavenly life.
No one who died before Jesus died - John 3:13 - they are Not ever called to heaven.
That includes King David mentioned at Acts 2:34
Those ' called ' to heaven do Not become angels but are saints or holy ones - Romans 1:6,7
They comprise being part of the saints or holy ones mentioned at Daniel chapter 7.
They are part of the ' little flock ' of Luke 12:32
They are Jesus' spiritual brothers - Matthew 25:40 - who are ' called ' to that heavenly position.
- Rev. 20:6; 5:9,10: 2:10 - ' called ' to be kings and priests over earth with Christ for a thousand years over the earthly subjects of God's kingdom, the ' other sheep ' of John 10:16; Matthew 25:31,32- they are the majority of mankind who will inherit the earthly realm of God's kingdom. - Psalm 37:11,29; 72:8,12-14

- see Romans 8:27-30 'called '
It is still him or her who will go to Heaven or not.


How God changes our flesh, does not change what we are.


A evil person after death is still evil.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
All,

1. I'm asking again for people to read and obey 1 Cor 6:10 and not just 1 Cor 6:9.

2. The Bible teaches, really teaches, in passages and chapters and not just verses. Just throwing verses out there may not come back void, but what comes back isn't always sound doctrine.

3. The gospel is Jesus, according to prophecy, died for sin, rose for justification and was seen by multiple witnesses multiple times. If you respond to the gospel to trust or lean upon or rely upon Jesus for salvation, you are saved.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
All,

1. I'm asking again for people to read and obey 1 Cor 6:10 and not just 1 Cor 6:9.

2. The Bible teaches, really teaches, in passages and chapters and not just verses. Just throwing verses out there may not come back void, but what comes back isn't always sound doctrine.

3. The gospel is Jesus, according to prophecy, died for sin, rose for justification and was seen by multiple witnesses multiple times. If you respond to the gospel to trust or lean upon or rely upon Jesus for salvation, you are saved.
Do you have a point?
 

Johnlove

Active Member
Notice Paul just said people, and that includes all of us does it not?


(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) “Do you not realize that people who do evil will never inherit the kingdom of God? Make no mistake -- the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, the self-indulgent, sodomites, thieves, misers, drunkards, slanderers and swindlers, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. Some of you used to be of that kind: but you have been washed clean, you have been sanctified, and you have been justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and through the Spirit of our God.”


Through being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, one has been washed clean.


When one after being baptized in Jesus’ name receives the Holy Spirit, then through the Spirit of our God one becomes sanctified.


The Holy Spirit guides, and gives one the grace to defeat Satan/sin.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
Notice Paul just said people, and that includes all of us does it not?


(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) “Do you not realize that people who do evil will never inherit the kingdom of God? Make no mistake -- the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, the self-indulgent, sodomites, thieves, misers, drunkards, slanderers and swindlers, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. Some of you used to be of that kind: but you have been washed clean, you have been sanctified, and you have been justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and through the Spirit of our God.”


Through being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, one has been washed clean.


When one after being baptized in Jesus’ name receives the Holy Spirit, then through the Spirit of our God one becomes sanctified.


The Holy Spirit guides, and gives one the grace to defeat Satan/sin.

So what happens to a person from verse 10, one who has been washed (past tense) when they stumble? Or do you believe that someone who trusted in Christ Monday has the level of spiritual maturity on Tuesday that you have--knowing hundreds of Bible verses, walking only in light, having their mind fully trained to discern good and evil, etc.?
 

Johnlove

Active Member
A person who sins after being forgiven of all past sin, and hasn't of yet, been given the knowledge of the truth, and never becomes spiritual will be judged by the word of God.


(Hebrews 10:26-31) “If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them. There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgment and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies. -------------“



(John 12:47-48) “If anyone hears my words and does not keep them faithfully, it is not I who shall condemn him, since I have come not to condemn the world, but to save the world: he who rejects me and refuses my words has his judge already: the word itself that I have spoken will be his judge on the last day.”



Paul explained that a person who still sins after being baptized is an infant in Christ. Not yet spiritual.


(1 Corinthians 3:1-3) “Brothers, I myself was unable to speak to you as people of the Spirit; I treated you as sensual men, still infants in Christ. What I fed you with was milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it; and indeed, you are still not ready for it since you are still unspiritual. Isn’t that obvious from all the jealousy and wrangling that there is among you, from the way that you go on behaving like ordinary people.”
 
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