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The lady of heaven movie and Sunni protests

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
I wonder if the Supreme Ulema Council ever takes the feelings of people of other religions into consideration.
Shouldn't think so. After all, the Quran does refer to them as "like cattle", "ignorant", "arrogant", and deserving of "enmity and hatred".
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
After all, they come here. it is not us going there.
You do realise that many Muslims in the west are 2nd or 3rd generation citizens. They have not "come here" they were born here, as were their parents and even grandparents. There are plenty of white immigrants with less of a connection and history here.
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
May God curse him and put him in the lowest place of fire, the 7th gate to hell and make enter through 7th gate of hell and seal his heart with no return to redemption neither this world or next, but die cursed. Amen.
You certainly can't fault the peaceful tolerance of Islam.
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
It was but I don’t remember any demonstrations
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firedragon

Veteran Member
It isn't, but we all know that Muslims like to claim it is. Some even tell the lie that Islam means peace in English.

Didn't ask you. But thanks for your insight based on your hearsay.

But I am interested in hearing your linguistic insight on "some claiming Islam means peace" and you say it's a lie.

How did you make that analysis that they "lie"? And whats your linguistic explanation of the word?

Thanks in advance.
 

stevecanuck

Well-Known Member
Didn't ask you. But thanks for your insight based on your hearsay.

You're welcome. Btw, you very badly spelled 'personal experience'.

But I am interested in hearing your linguistic insight on "some claiming Islam means peace"

No insight, linguistic or otherwise, is necessary to simply hear (or read) someone claiming that Islam means peace.

and you say it's a lie.

Yes, as you well know.

How did you make that analysis that they "lie"? And whats your linguistic explanation of the word?

Thanks in advance.

Let the games begin. Islam means surrender/submission, but you know that. If you don't think it does (rather, if you find a way of pretending it doesn't), please tell me what it does mean. Warning: I will not respond unless you give me an alternative meaning. (Another btw - I'm well aware of the 3-consonant rule - in this case س ل م).
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
You're welcome. Btw, you very badly spelled 'personal experience'.

You personally experienced what other's say. That's hearsay.

Let the games begin. Islam means surrender/submission, but you know that. If you don't think it does (rather, if you find a way of pretending it doesn't), please tell me what it does mean. Warning: I will not respond unless you give me an alternative meaning. (Another btw - I'm well aware of the 3-consonant rule - in this case س ل م).

Of course. You want to insult islam with some irrelevant topic. ;) Constantly being at it seems like some kind of ailment.

No problem. So the root letters are seen, ladh and meem. You had cut and pasted from somewhere already so that's convenient. But you are uneducated because sometimes you get what's called in English a quad literal root. Like Mahajidh. That's "FOUR LETTER ROOT". So please don't pretend you know the language, insult other's calling them dishonest at the outset, and embarrass yourself like this after such fanfare.

Tell me.

1. What is the root word for Islam and what does it mean?
2. You have cut and pasted the root letters above right? Salama. What does Salama mean in it's root?

Thanks.
 
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stevecanuck

Well-Known Member
You personally experienced what other's say. That's hearsay.



Of course. You want to insult islam with some irrelevant topic. ;) Constantly being at it seems like some kind of ailment.

No problem. So the root letters are seen, ladh and meem. You had cut and pasted from somewhere already so that's convenient. But you are uneducated because sometimes you get what's called in English a quad literal root. Like Mahajidh. That's "FOUR LETTER ROOT". So please don't pretend you know the language, insult other's calling them dishonest at the outset, and embarrass yourself like this after such fanfare.

Tell me.

1. What is the root word for Islam and what does it mean?
2. You have cut and pasted the root letters above right? Salama. What does Salama mean in it's root?

Thanks.

Here you go:

Arabic trilateral roots

This is where you magically make it go away by repeating the incantation of "cut and paste". Poof. Gone.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Here you go:

Arabic trilateral roots

This is where you magically make it go away by repeating the incantation of "cut and paste". Poof. Gone.

Err. You don't know arabic but try to teach others truly pathetically. I just went to that link you gave. It's just a paragraph or two about trilateral roots. Mate, that doesn't there are as I said quad literal roots. You are embarrassing yourself badly. Anyway let me give you a quick lesson. Arabic roots are called Masdhar. Three letter roots are called Sulaasi. Four letter roots are called Arbaath. Learn something.

Anyway, since you have no clue you ignored the question I asked. Maybe you can do a little bit of studying your internet links and come back if you can.

Tell me.

1. What is the root word for Islam and what does it mean?
2. You have cut and pasted the root letters above right? Salama. What does Salama mean in it's root?

If you don't know I will tell you.

Thanks.
 
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KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
Tell me.

1. What is the root word for Islam and what does it mean?
2. You have cut and pasted the root letters above right? Salama. What does Salama mean in it's root?

Thanks.
So, does "Islam" mean "peace" or "submission"?

BTW, I don't think that most people claiming it means "peace" are themselves lying. They are merely repeating a lie promulgated by dishonest apologists. A lie they find easy to uncritically accept because it confirms their prejudice.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
TBF, you were quite young, but WADR "I don't remember it" isn't really a valid argument in the context of whether or not something happened.

Jerry sparks show of faith

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Indeed, that was a while ago.

Not exactly commonplace. It's certainly not at the level of outrage many Muslims display here.

It's really just generally true that Christians here are not upset over the kinds of things Muslims here often are or Christians in the US tend to be.
 

KWED

Scratching head, scratching knee
Indeed, that was a while ago.
Not exactly commonplace. It's certainly not at the level of outrage many Muslims display here.
When I pointed out that there have been bans and protests by Christians against productions they consider blasphemous, you relied "Not in my country, not in my lifetime." There have been. Both. So no "double standards".
I never claimed that it was as common or as vociferous as those by outraged Muslims in recent times.

It's really just generally true that Christians here are not upset over the kinds of things Muslims here often are or Christians in the US tend to be.
You initially claimed double standards for Muslims and Christians. But here you are claiming that no such double standards exist in the US.

Many specialist interest groups unjustifiably claim outrage and demand special treatment in the face of reasonable criticism or comment. I see no need to make distinctions.
 
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