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I do not know what you are talking about. How is scripture that says in Romans 3:4 4, God forbid: yes, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged" circular reasoning?
It's not the text itself, it's that fact that you're only using the text to validate itself.
| 1 | (To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came unto him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba.) Have mercy upon me, O Elohim, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions. |
| 4 | Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done [this] evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, [and] be clear when thou judgest. |
| 1 | And YHWH sent Nathan unto David. And he came unto him, and said unto him, There were two men in one city; the one rich, and the other poor. |
| 2 | The rich [man] had exceeding many flocks and herds: |
| 3 | But the poor [man] had nothing, save one little ewe lamb, which he had bought and nourished up: and it grew up together with him, and with his children; it did eat of his own meat, and drank of his own cup, and lay in his bosom, and was unto him as a daughter. |
| 4 | And there came a traveller unto the rich man, and he spared to take of his own flock and of his own herd, to dress for the wayfaring man that was come unto him; but took the poor man's lamb, and dressed it for the man that was come to him. |
Your post makes no sense and does not support a claim of circular reasoning. Romans 3:4 was only posted to support a statement that Gods Word is the standard of what is true and what is not true as it is written in the scripture; "God forbid: yes, LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LIAR; as it is written, That you might be justified in your sayings, and might overcome when you are judged." The context of why Romans 3:4 was quoted was because, someone was trying to argue that the teachings and traditions of men in contradiction to the scriptures supersedes scripture when the bible teaches only scripture is the standard of what is true and what is not true (see also John 17:17).
It makes no sense to you because you apparently have a faith based belief system, not a rational one. The cause goes back to Paul's relationship with Rome/Babylon.
Well that claim is not true at all. If our salvation is based on faith in Gods Word, and Gods Word is the standard of what truth is, how can posting scripture not be evidence against external validation? Think your argument through. If according to the scriptures we are saved by Gods grace that we receive through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9) and this faith comes to us as we believe and follow what Gods Word says (Romans 10:17; James 2:13-26); How can you have God's salvation if you do not believe and obey what Gods Word says?
In order to be testable, a prophecy needs to be specific. That is not what you see in sacred texts.
No, dear. Sacred texts are not evidence.
Because "God" and "scripture" are ambiguous terms. A doctrine of salvation is typically based on religious tradition, not on reason. Terms like "God" and "scripture" don't add anything to that. Why would you trust Paul with your salvation when he lied about his role in that salvation? (Acts 26 vs Acts 22 and Acts 22 vs Acts 9).
Need is for those who have no regard for the rights of others.
I'm sorry, but that just didn't make any sense.
Indeed for unbelievers which the bible defines as sin.
Your response here...
Your post does not make sense and is unresponsive to the post and questions you are responding to.
You can have whatever religious beliefs you want. If you want to believe in pink lunar bunnies, I'm fine with that. The facts still remains, religious texts are not evidence.
No thanks. I prefer the scriptures which are God inspired words that are in disagreement with your words of unbelief and sin. Of course, that is your choice and for you and God to work through as it is your salvation not mine (2 Kings 17:14; Isaiah 6:9-10). Lets talk more when you are able to address the OP. So far you have failed at that.
Like I said, you're operating from a faith-based paradigm, not a rational one, so it won't make sense to you.
Your response here....
Once again your post makes no sense and is unresponsive to the scriptures and questions that are in disagreement with you that you are unwilling to respond to.
He does. Gods messages are recorded in the bible. But many do not want to believe it as you can see in this OP.
"scriptures" is just a name for ideas that you can't validate.
Who says? Lets not lie now and make untruthful claims you are unable to prove. Once again your post makes no sense and is unresponsive to the scriptures and questions that are in disagreement with you that you are unwilling to respond to.
