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The Miracle of Water.

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Isn't it strange that these miraculous healings where limbs grow back don't seem to happen in modern times where it could be observed and recorded and verified. They all seemed to stop once recording devices were invented. How strange.

The miraculous healings Jesus did stopped once the apostles were off the scene.
Not only 'off the scene', but would Not be seen again until the coming time of Revelation 22:2.
Jesus' healings were a small sample for us. A preview or coming attraction of Jesus' 1,000-year reign over Earth.
During that millennium-long day of governing over Earth is when mankind will see the return of the Genesis "Tree of Life" notice: for the ' healing ' of earth's nations. Healing as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
If a book can be called a ' recording device ' (a record) then the Bible has Not stopped Nor will the Bible ever stop.
"Healing" is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Revelation 22:20 for Jesus to come !
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
And yet, it came to rest on a mountain pretty close to where it launched from. Quite a coincidence, no? I am wondering if it had something to do with the fact that the people who wrote those myths did not know that there were other continents...

Remember the Ark was Not a boat. It did Not have to go anywhere. ALL the Ark had to do was float.
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
Remember the Ark was Not a boat. It did Not have to go anywhere. ALL the Ark had to do was float.
Sure. Never mind the whole implausibility of what the ark was meant for, or who built it, but a floating boat... moves around, right? Even on calm seas. And every literalist I have ever encountered is quick to reference the catastrophic 'fountains of the deep' and storms and such.

Sounds like having one's cake and eating it, too.
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
I find where there is organization there is a mind, where there is a mind there is a person, where there is a person there is a personality. Since No human organized the universe, then the person that organized the Universe is God as Creator - Revelation 4:11.
Non sequitur.

Personality/mind is a function of brain. No brain, no mind. Alter the brain, alter the personality. Brain = mind.
Plus, if man set off the Big Bang (as with the rest of man's explosions) there would be chaos and No order.
Just following your logic. Not my fault if it does not lead where you'd hoped it would.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The miraculous healings Jesus did stopped once the apostles were off the scene.
Not only 'off the scene', but would Not be seen again until the coming time of Revelation 22:2.
Jesus' healings were a small sample for us. A preview or coming attraction of Jesus' 1,000-year reign over Earth.
During that millennium-long day of governing over Earth is when mankind will see the return of the Genesis "Tree of Life" notice: for the ' healing ' of earth's nations. Healing as described at Isaiah 35th chapter.
If a book can be called a ' recording device ' (a record) then the Bible has Not stopped Nor will the Bible ever stop.
"Healing" is why we are all invited to pray the invitation of Revelation 22:20 for Jesus to come !
o_O
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Personality/mind is a function of brain. No brain, no mind. Alter the brain, alter the personality. Brain = mind.
Where there is a brain there is a mind, where there is a mind there is a person, where there is a person there is a personality. God's brainy mind and personality is shown in the organized universe.
Man's ruling personality is shown in his ruining of Earth.
It is No wonder King Solomon wrote at Ecclesiastes 8:9 that man has dominated man to man's hurt or injury.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Where there is a brain there is a mind, where there is a mind there is a person, where there is a person there is a personality. God's brainy mind and personality is shown in the organized universe.
Man's ruling personality is shown in his ruining of Earth.
It is No wonder King Solomon wrote at Ecclesiastes 8:9 that man has dominated man to man's hurt or injury.
Where can we find God's "brainy mind?" Please demonstrate it's existence. Saying it is "shown in the organized universe" tells us virtually nothing. We should just call it the universe then.
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
Where there is a brain there is a mind, where there is a mind there is a person, where there is a person there is a personality. God's brainy mind and personality is shown in the organized universe.

Cool - write it a third while looking in a mirror and it might come true.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Where can we find God's "brainy mind?" Please demonstrate it's existence. Saying it is "shown in the organized universe" tells us virtually nothing. We should just call it the universe then.

Sure, anyone can just call it the universe.
Where on Earth can you go and find an intelligent design without someone intelligent to design it.
So, to me the organized 'intelligent' universe is where we find, so to speak, God's ' brainy mind '.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Indeed.
I think this is the first time I have seen an evangelical imply that God is a physical entity.

The Bible speaks of spirit creation being created before physical creation, so God does Not have to be physical.
God's home is not material nor earthly, but heavenly as per 1 Kings 8:39,49.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Cool - write it a third while looking in a mirror and it might come true.
To me the universe is logical in organization. Such logic and organization does Not happen by itself.
Plus, to me the way the world is so un-organized today is just as Scripture says it would be ruined by man.
To me that shows an intelligent mind/brain knowing that man can't be successful without God's direction.
Man's history shows an intelligent mind/brain has allowed man time to see if he can successfully govern himself.
If you don't think man rule is Not failing and getting worse, then watch the political and religious scenes.
- 2 Timothy 3:13
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
To me the universe is logical in organization. Such logic and organization does Not happen by itself.
Plus, to me the way the world is so un-organized today is just as Scripture says it would be ruined by man.
To me that shows an intelligent mind/brain knowing that man can't be successful without God's direction.
Man's history shows an intelligent mind/brain has allowed man time to see if he can successfully govern himself.
If you don't think man rule is Not failing and getting worse, then watch the political and religious scenes.
- 2 Timothy 3:13
Nature needs no intelligent mind to work. The organization seen is the organization man has discovered in Nature. Natural forces created our world and us. Humans are definitely making profound mistakes to our world I will agree with you on that point.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Question begging. So impressive.

Yes.
Hey! I got a taker!

What’s your take on this...
Lincoln's ghost - Wikipedia

...or this...
https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/ghosts-in-the-white-house

...what about this...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...nd-pets/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9b0d203494d1

..etc., etc.

You really think these people — especially those who had reputations to protect — would admit to these experiences?

Granted, many sightings of spirits, and Ouija board and séance accounts, are faked.

But the candid nature of these occurrences as recounted by those with a lot to lose, should make one take notice!
 
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ecco

Veteran Member
You really think these people — especially those who had reputations to protect — would admit to these experiences?

But the candid nature of these occurrences as recounted by those with a lot to lose, should make one take notice!
Acting AG Whitaker


Dana Milbank: With Bigfoot and time travel on resume, Whitaker deserves job as acting AG
Claimed that “DNA evidence collected in 2013 proves that Bigfoot does exist,” had a website selling Bigfoot paraphernalia and planned a celebrity event called “You Have Been Squatched!”​

Despite this, Whitaker was appointed Acting AG. What you fail to recognize is that many people believe in ghosts and Bigfoot, so people like Whitaker aren't risking anything with the base of believers.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Acting AG Whitaker


Dana Milbank: With Bigfoot and time travel on resume, Whitaker deserves job as acting AG
Claimed that “DNA evidence collected in 2013 proves that Bigfoot does exist,” had a website selling Bigfoot paraphernalia and planned a celebrity event called “You Have Been Squatched!”​

Despite this, Whitaker was appointed Acting AG. What you fail to recognize is that many people believe in ghosts and Bigfoot, so people like Whitaker aren't risking anything with the base of believers.

That's a fair point.

But that still leaves the question, do you think these people are lying, then?
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Natural forces created our world and us.

Who created the natural forces?

Humans are definitely making profound mistakes to our world I will agree with you on that point.

Who will stop them from destroying the only home we have? It's well on it way to the point of no return. Are we in for the mass extinction of all mass extinctions?
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Who created the natural forces?



Who will stop them from destroying the only home we have? It's well on it way to the point of no return. Are we in for the mass extinction of all mass extinctions?

The natural forces have always been so no created them. The universe is in constant change but it has no beginning and no end.

We must stop what we are doing to our home. We have to change our behavior and accept that unlimited growth leads to the destruction of our own kind and all life around us. You and I and all that will listen must reach out to the rest no matter what religion one believes in to stop destroying our precious world.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The natural forces have always been so no created them. The universe is in constant change but it has no beginning and no end.

LOL.....you mean just like God?

We must stop what we are doing to our home. We have to change our behavior and accept that unlimited growth leads to the destruction of our own kind and all life around us. You and I and all that will listen must reach out to the rest no matter what religion one believes in to stop destroying our precious world.

Given the fact that humans have known about our destructive ways for some decades now, do you really think that anyone will stop making profits just to save the Earth? Are you hopeful it's not too late?

Did you know that the Bible makes reference to those who are 'ruining the earth' in our time? It says that before they actually accomplish it, that God will bring them to ruin. (Revelation 11:18)

It is interesting that it makes mention of this, since when that was written, (almost 2,000 yrs ago) man had no way of ruining the earth. He could build a city or dam a river, but he had no capacity to bring ruin to the earth itself.
 

joelr

Well-Known Member
There is no substance on earth as vital for life as water is.....can it be just a fluke of nature?...or is it evidence of purposeful design?

Please watch the video and see what logical conclusion you come to.....

Jehovah's Witnesses BROADCASTING


the video seems to be missing the point.
Earth life evolved in water so naturally it adapted itself to use water to it's advantage.
If life evolves on a planet with other substances, like ammonia, methane and other gasses then it would not need water.
 
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