amorphous_constellation
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There are recent trending articles about how u.s. bases were swarmed by mysterious drones for 17 days.. maybe ufo drones. Seems like it should be more concerning than our little election rounds, or no?
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The Most Frightening Thing (for me)...
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Wirey
Fartist
No. An alien intelligence that could visit us could overwhelm us if they wanted, so if they wanted we'd already be ET food. And since they don't exist, it seems highly unlikely.
Clizby Wampuscat
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Uh huh. Great comment, Have a great day!
There's something in the above that we don't talk about much, but what I hear from Trump supporters more than anything else is, "I was better off during his administration." This, of course, means money. Yes, inflation happened, but it's cause can be directly linked to Trump, his handling of the pandemic, and the first big packages to aid individuals and businesses, along with the failure to impose means of containing the virus and slowing the spread.
But that aside, this "I was better off" notion speaks to something else -- it speaks to pure selfishness! The nation can go to hell, so long as I'm getting mine. That's certainly not what JFK asked of Americans in his inaugural address, when he announced that "we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and success of liberty." And when he asked his fellow Americans to "ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."
That sentiment, alas, is gone. I don't see it coming back.
I wager many dem voters from the USA wish Trudeau was their Potus.
But that is an accomplishment that will be undone if Trump is elected.
Harris was not called upon to prevent a dictatorship, until now.
Clizby Wampuscat
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Ok, hope she can do that if she needs to.
Harris was called upon to unleash WW3 and to turn Europe into a nuclear battlefield.
So we Europeans are all nuked and dead.
But I put this into your conscience: do you really care if we all die?
I am sure the answer will be no.
What!??!Harris was called upon to unleash WW3 and to turn Europe into a nuclear battlefield.
So we Europeans are all nuked and dead.
But I put this into your conscience: do you really care if we all die?
I am sure the answer will be no.
But I put this into your conscience: do you really care if we all die?
I am sure the answer will be no.
Only your psychotic fantasies ...
My guess is that @Balthazzar is just asking for something that many of us would like to see more of here: someone offering a rational and detailed explanation for their endorsement of their candidate/party rather than just making doomsday predictions about what would happen if the other side wins.There is expert analysis in many publications. I guess you are admitting of being one of those poorly informed people out there making decisions that affect our nation and global affairs. That's why Trump has so much support:
Bad judgment by poory informed citizens.
Let me help you do the homework you should be doing yourself as a citizen
The Fiscal Impact of the Harris and Trump Campaign Plans | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget
The next President will face significant fiscal challenges upon taking office, including record debt levels, large structural deficits, surging interest payments, and the looming insolvency of critwww.crfb.org
Trump’s Tariff Proposals Would Raise Tariff Rates to Great Depression-Era Levels
Using tariff policy to reallocate investment and jobs is a costly mistake—that’s a history lesson we should not forget.taxfoundation.org
What happens to Ukraine if Trump wins?
The foreign policy differences between the candidates were on display this week with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy meeting with both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. The panel discusses what could happen in Ukraine if Trump wins the election.www.pbs.org
Could NATO survive a second Trump administration?
Even if a Trump administration left NATO alone, could Europe count on the mercurial former president when the chips were down?www.brookings.edu
It seems to me that this election is more and more taking out the character of a holy war between two competing religious factions, complete with threats of hell if the other side wins.
But even more so in this attitude that "anyone who isnt for us must be against us", exp:
F1fan said:
And reactions to sincere questioning as if it were some sort of blasphemy:
F1fan said:
But fear not @Balthazzar, I have every faith that even umwashed infidels such as ourselves ( that is: anyone who doesn't have a fanatical attachment to one outcome or another) may still have a chance at redemption as long as our resident patron saints of snarky self-righteousness continue to try to bless us in their evangelical zeal.
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Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I agree that Trump is too flawed but I am going to write in a vote, not vote for Harris. I do not live in a swing state by the way, and my vote is unlikely to change anything one way or the other but someone will see it somewhere and that's good enough for me.
I actually tried to do that, in a slightly unconventional but (in my view) very useful way in this thread -- to which not a single member has even posted a comment.
A fun experiment with AI about the election
Dear Members, I did this just for fun, and it is not meant to be taken as a reasonable way of making your own choice on November 5th. But I wanted to know how AI would make such a choice. Normally, AI tends to give vague answers, like “it would depend on the individual’s values and blah...
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This might be true in 2008 between Obama and McCain. Or in 2012 between Obama and Romney. And even in 2016 between Clinton and Trump as all these candidates had fairly workable ideas. Trump in 2024 has more risky ideas that could not only affect the USA but also global stability. Want details? Trump’s notable support for Putin will mean a destabilizing impact for Ukraine and NATO countries. We can’t reslly predict outcomes but the risk of a global war would increase.
That alone should be enough to not vote for Trump. He is disturbed and growing more aggressive against the media, citizens, and political opponents. That’s unacceptable. Yet he’s being treated as if he is a typical politician and candidate. He’s nothing of the sort.
There’s only one emotionally stable candidate who can be trusted. Is she perfect? No. But she is stable.
So are you saying that Trump is not a substantial and, as far as the U.S. is concerned, nearly unprecedented threat to democracy and the rule of law?
I was expecting something like: I do care about Europe's safety.
I am afraid I will never listen to that from you.
Trump does care.
Literally none of what I said has anything to do with who to vote for.
I was referring to your statement that " Harris was called upon to unleash WW3 and to turn Europe into a nuclear battlefield. So we Europeans are all nuked and dead."I was expecting something like: I do care about Europe's safety.
I am afraid I will never listen to that from you.
Trump does care.
I'm having a difficult time remembering when that happened, you see.
But for the record, I am a huge Europe supporter. Canada is a member of NATO, and that is something a greatly approve of, since it increases the safety for EVERYBODY -- including Russia -- because it reduces the likelihood that any nation will take on a NATO country because the rest would respond with Article 5. (The European countries I support least, at the moment, are Russia, Belarus and Hungary, because I don't like dictators.)
And for the record, it was Trump, early in his first (and with luck, ony) term, who threatened to pull the US out of NATO. Trump gets his jollies thinking about dictators.
In exactly the same way that you're suggesting that we should teach wallabies how to play the accordion.