So you see something to remedy? What would that be?
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The "only true religion"
- Thread starter Katzpur
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe if you wish to talk with God talk with me.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe so. Both parties will be in agreement because the same spirit does not have two opposite things to say.
Muffled
Jesus in me
Please excuse me. I had the impression that you might not be happy that God hid from you. I believe it may be the other way around.
I don't mind God one way or the other. I mind people expecting me to pursue a God that I have no reason to believe in.
Yes, but there might be other parties that might disagree with your parties. In fact there are a lot of parties all disagreeing on some basic stuff, last but not least whether Jesus is God or not.
And they will also say that they have the author, and all the others are wrong.
So, what epistemology do you propose for me to decide who is right?
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe according to the Bible the one to listen to is the one who has had prophecy come true. That has happened for me.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe those people are God seeking you.
I am not even sure that reason makes sense. I am sitting in a chair. I don't have to go through any reasoning to believe that because I am experiencing it. The same is true for God.
1. Yes, of course. Why follow a religion that isn't the truth?
2. The true religion teaches and practices the truth about God and his Son. Jesus said; "Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.”
(John 4:23,24)
3. I believe it is extremely important to know the truth about God. Again, Jesus said; "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3) Jesus urged his followers to "Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it." (Matthew 7:13,14)
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Well, I can't personally think of a reason, but you'd be surprised at how many people don't really seem to think it's all that important.
So if a sincere and decent person doesn't "know the truth about God," do you believe he is destined to "destruction"? And how would you describe "destruction"?
No one is destined for destruction. "Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9)
But IMO God will not delay the "day and hour" he has scheduled for this wicked system to end. (Matthew 24:36) Jesus said; "For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." ( Matthew 24:38-40) Many who perished in the Flood simply took no note until it was too late.
Jesus contrasted the fate of those judged righteous and those unrighteousness. "These [unrighteous] will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” (Matthew 25:46) Thus, everlasting death, destruction, is the end of those whom God judges adversely, according to the Bible.
kerravon
Anti-subjugator
Well, I believe we are living in the equivalent (e.g. an alien's dream) of a computer simulation. I further believe that the universe won't be destroyed when the alien wakes up, and instead all of our brain is stored on hard disk. I believe that when we "die" we will be given a chance to negotiate a new existence, perhaps as ceremonial king/queen of some other solar system or even galaxy. There's a lot of real estate out there. If you have been a prick your entire life, you may have difficulty in the negotiations. Regardless, you will be asked "what do you want?", and you will not be tortured in Hell for eternity.
It is a very interesting question to have to answer - "what do you want?". If you wish for a planet that is as peaceful as Switzerland, you may find that extremely dull and ask to be annihilated instead. You may come to believe that Earth is already Heaven.
Edit: See positions 4:04, 4:14 and 4:18 here:
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Based on your own lifestyle you defined them all as theists and so determined that theism disagrees amongst itself.
peanutbutter63
Member
ONLY TRUE RELIGION when actualized, leads to war and many deaths. Much better for the world to live with multiple paths, with emphasis on the guarantee of basic human rights at the very least
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that is a non-sequitur.
I believe you are out of luck because God believes He already knows better and has no intentions of having you try to teach Him.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe you should know there is no such thing.
I believe that is obvious that one is not able to follow a good path unless one know the good path.
I beleive the text descibes it as not eternal life. I personnaly believe a person who has eternal life is destined for Paradise but the peson who does not have eternal life is destined for the lake of fire.
Assuming that your beliefs are correct on these regards, God can't reasonably expect to receive any of my attention. He has not earned it.