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The "only true religion"
- Thread starter Katzpur
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that depends on yoour point of view. It is useful to me to know whether I am being true to my Lord. I also find it useful to perceive whether interpretations are true to Him as well.
I am not sure what you mean by defensible but Jeus says "I am the truth."
Muffled
Jesus in me
I don't believe that believing something is true without proof is irrational or baseless. I think that is an assumption on your part.
Muffled
Jesus in me
So does my lack of success at the casino prove there is no God or simply that He destined me to lose?
Wellllll... that's not entirely true. Which is the true ton, a short ton, long ton or a metric ton? FAQ: What is the difference between the long ton, short ton, and metric ton?
Etritonakin
Well-Known Member
I believe keeping the commandments is the correct path, because it is logical and would produce what everyone wants.
I believe the ultimate fate of all will be to eventually see that the above is correct -though how they reach that state is varied, and whether or not they choose to do them is up to them.
I believe any completely incorrigible individual can and should be eventually destroyed, but I am not convinced that there are any completely incorrigible individuals.
I do not believe it is my place to force any belief on anyone else -or to act against anyone else.
I believe the ultimate fate of all will be to eventually see that the above is correct -though how they reach that state is varied, and whether or not they choose to do them is up to them.
I believe any completely incorrigible individual can and should be eventually destroyed, but I am not convinced that there are any completely incorrigible individuals.
I do not believe it is my place to force any belief on anyone else -or to act against anyone else.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe a short ton would be 2000 pounds to be a true short ton and so on.
You... you... uh... you... missed the point (hint: true is relative).
Lots of people say that they hold the religious truth. We have no choice but to decide what to trust.
catch22
Active Member
I'm not sure why people want to classify everything. It just makes for incomplete or strange questions, really.
1- I don't believe I have a religion. If we're going to call it that for the sake of argument, I will say I certainly don't think my religion is the only one. The evidence it isn't is overwhelming. As for being true, it depends what you mean by true. It's a relative term, isn't it? For example, I think satan is real and if satanists follow him, their religion is true, isn't it? If their goal is to NOT end up with God in His kingdom, it's still a highly likely outcome, and thus... "true."
Same for any of the other minor gods, some of which are most likely real in some variation -- they just aren't worth worshipping or acknowledging as anything other than fallen betrayers. That is my opinion, of course.
I guess the rest of the questions don't apply since my answer to #1 is "no." I think your question is malformed. For example, you might say, "do you think your religion is the only one that leads to heaven and God's kingdom? To salvation and everlasting life?" But it would be a Judeo-Christian themed question; not all religions perceive heaven in similar ways, and with perhaps the satanist example above, they might outright not want that end result.
So, please be more clear in your definition of true.
In islam there's no guarantee of salvation. Muhammad himself didn't know if he was going to heaven. Only Jesus gives that security when you trust in Him. Remember Jesus warned about false prophets. Who came later? Muhammad, Joseph Smith, the Jehovahs Witnesses - all distortions of the biblical truth.If i am wrong about Christianity i might go to hell.
If i am wrong about Islam i am going to hell.
Thanks humans for making it so hard you ********
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Yea their all wrong.
gsa
Well-Known Member
Based on Islamic scripture and tradition, we are pretty sure you polytheist Christians are going to hell for shirk. Jews, preceding Mo, appear to agree that you are monotheistic pretenders.
Alternatively, and realistically, you are all deluded cultists who hold humanity back by believing harmful things.
So what about the Trinity being a pagan concept? By no means! The Babylonians and Assyrians believed in triads of gods in a pantheon of other gods. But these triads constituted three separate gods (polytheism) which is utterly different from the doctrine of the trinity-which maintains that there is only one God (monotheism) with three persons within the one godhead. Think of a triangle...
There are three points but it is still one triangle. One God. The Trinity permeates throughout the Bible as here are a few examples....
For example, Peter refers to the saints who have been chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God The Father." (1 Peter 1:2) when Jesus made a post resurrection appearance to Thomas, the disciple worshipfully responded by addressing Him, "My Lord and MY GOD." (John 20:28) The Father also said of the Son, "Your throne O God, is forever and ever." In Acts 5:3-4, we are told that lying to the Holy Spirit is equivalent to lying to God. Peter said,"Ananias, why has satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit,,, You have not lied to men but to God."
Besides being called God, each of the three persons are seen on different occasions to possess the attributes of deity. Note the following examples:
All three persons possess the attribute of omnipresence:
The Father (1 Kings 8:27)
The Son (Matthew 28:20)
The Holy Spirit (psalm 139:7)
All three have the attribute of omniscience:
The Father (psalm 147:5)
The Son (John 16:30)
The Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:10)
All three have the attribute of omnipotence:
The Father (Psalm 135:6)
The Son (Matthew 28:18)
The Holy Spirit (Romans 15:19)
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Sorry you didn't like the question. Just as a heads up for the future, you needn't feel compelled to answer questions you believe to be flawed.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
If i am wrong about Christianity i might go to hell.
If i am wrong about Islam i am going to hell.
Thanks humans for making it so hard you ********
Then go do Judaism. We don't have a 'hell' in the afterlife at all.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Just curious. What do Jews believe about an afterlife?
catch22
Active Member
I'm indifferent on liking it or not. You asked. If you want sufficient answers, ask better questions.
gsa
Well-Known Member
Still three co-eternal persons. But even if one concedes that trinitarianism is not polytheism, it remains shirk in Islam, the antithesis of tawhid, or the oneness of the Abrahamic god, and an unforgivable sin if there is no repentance before death (yes, Christians burn in hell for trinitarianism according to many if not most Muslims). This is from the Quran itself.
Christians believe the trinity is consistent with Abrahamic monotheism, but the two major branches apart from Christianity disagree with that assessment.