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The principle of vibration

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Cheese,

all things change....

change is the only constant

UNDERSTOOD & ACCEPTED.
Now, where does this CHANGE take place?
which is the *changing room* [locker room?]

Love & rgds
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend ericoh2,

Thank you very much!
[frubals but out of stock NOW]

Sorry, have read very little of Gurdjieff.
The material thereon is surely worth meditating on!
Still on earth yet to reach the planets [astral] and the sun [mental] and beyond.

Do posts more on Gurdjieff as surely a rare element to take form. Lots to understand.

Love & rgds
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend EtuMalku,

Thank you for your posts.
It is surprising that you have all these information / knowledge and hiding them in some closet, kindly take them out for a walk, to get drench in the rain or get sum sun tan. Yes there is always *yang* where *yin* resides, so that is life, accept it totally.
Looking forward to more contributions.
Love & rgds
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend skydivephil,

As before do appreciate your energy to travel the extent it requires to get things worked out on paper for which you use the MIND [thoughts] and so state :
In fact lets go one higher, dumb is being too kind. I should have used the criticism: Not even Wrong, which seems to apply to many of the gibberish posts in this thread:
It is perfectly understood and accepted however TRUTH is that whatever label you may use, still that cannot be removed from existence, except in your own *THOUGHTS*.
When you wake up to that reality you become enlightened about that reality.
THIS that you negate is all about *No-THOUGHTS* when the mind STILLS to experience which had suggested an exercise to stop your breath and then start very very slow breathing.
Forget that, Light never knows the existence of darkness but does that mean darkness is not there?
Another WAY, your WAY!. Keep negating every thing when finally reach where most scientist came to, accepting that it is not all science.
Take Care.
Love & rgds
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend YmirGF,

I find it very difficult to embrace the intellectual flatulence outlined in this thread. Oh well, back to my varnishing, I guess.
If varnishing be your source of vibration none has any right to come in that WAY however the point of vibration was to open the pandoras box of the origin which is sound etc.
Meaning to state COMMUNICATION [vibration / sound ] has been is and will be BUT that getting transfered to an understandable human language?
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/comparative-religion/89626-does-your-god-speak.html
Silence/varinishing may be useful there! what do you say?

Love & rgds
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Friend YmirGF,


If varnishing be your source of vibration none has any right to come in that WAY however the point of vibration was to open the pandoras box of the origin which is sound etc.
Meaning to state COMMUNICATION [vibration / sound ] has been is and will be BUT that getting transfered to an understandable human language?
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/comparative-religion/89626-does-your-god-speak.html
Silence/varinishing may be useful there! what do you say?

Love & rgds
For me, the "original" sound is Aum, but you have to be that sound to know what I mean.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend YmirGF,

For me, the "original" sound is Aum, but you have to be that sound to know what I mean.
Yes, that is what we all like to know, HOW?
Do you?

Love & rgds
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Friend YmirGF,


Yes, that is what we all like to know, HOW?
Do you?

Love & rgds
The answer to this is deep within the silence found in the stillness beyond thought. One may have to listen very closely though as it begins as a whisper that is far softer than your heartbeat.
 

ericoh2

******
This is an incredibly dumb system, why does the Eath's moon get its own Octave but Jupiter'r moons don't? Since the majority of the universe is dark matter where is its octave? Why have 8 layers at all? Why not 5 or 100? this is just meaningless gibberish. If you presented this at a physics conference you would simply be laughed at

I would try to go a little more into his system, but honestly it would take a lot of typing. If you really would like to know a little more about it I suggest you read "In Search of the Miraculous" by PD Ouspensky. Lets face it though, if you were to present many ideas found in quantum physics as we are aware today, to the pre quantum era physicists you probably would have been ridiculed as well. That doesn't mean the ideas don't have validity.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend YmirGF,

The answer to this is deep within the silence found in the stillness beyond thought. One may have to listen very closely though as it begins as a whisper that is far softer than your heartbeat.

Yes, that STILLNESS of mind [thought] is what is being discussed through various posts.

Love & rgds
 

skydivephil

Active Member
I would try to go a little more into his system, but honestly it would take a lot of typing. If you really would like to know a little more about it I suggest you read "In Search of the Miraculous" by PD Ouspensky. Lets face it though, if you were to present many ideas found in quantum physics as we are aware today, to the pre quantum era physicists you probably would have been ridiculed as well. That doesn't mean the ideas don't have validity.

The comparison is ridiculous. Qaunutm mechanics makes testable predictions, experiments confirmed those predictions. Thast why it was accpeted. You guys are just bandering around terms that you clearly dont understand, nor do you understand what science really is. I think you do a great insult to science by highjacking its language without understanding its methodology.
Can you name a single testable predition your guys has made that has been confirmed by an experiment?
 

ericoh2

******
The comparison is ridiculous. Qaunutm mechanics makes testable predictions, experiments confirmed those predictions. Thast why it was accpeted. You guys are just bandering around terms that you clearly dont understand, nor do you understand what science really is. I think you do a great insult to science by highjacking its language without understanding its methodology.
Can you name a single testable predition your guys has made that has been confirmed by an experiment?

Once again I think you're putting too much faith in the modern scientific method. Just because something cannot be tested by our scientific instruments, which in the grand scheme of existence, may actually be quite crude, does not mean that it isn't so. Since you seem to be up to date on modern science you should be well aware that there exists occurrences in quantum theory, even in their own experiments, which the scientists still cannot explain. Even dark matter and energy, which you spoke of earlier, is more of a mystery to modern science than not.

We've attained a certain degree of scientific knowledge but to say that it encompasses all of existence is a naive assumption. It can be likened to those who, centuries ago, said that the world was flat, that the earth was the center of the universe and believed this without a doubt. With the scientific knowledge the individuals that believed this had, they felt this was the most logical conclusion they could make. How foolish do we think these ideas are now? I can envision a time in the future where the same view is held as to how we see things now.
 
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Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
I find it amazing the way humans can make out such definite patterns in what is really chaotic randomness.

Cheers
 
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Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
This is an incredibly dumb system, why does the Eath's moon get its own Octave but Jupiter'r moons don't? Since the majority of the universe is dark matter where is its octave? Why have 8 layers at all? Why not 5 or 100? this is just meaningless gibberish. If you presented this at a physics conference you would simply be laughed at

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why are you here mr sky dive?

I think we all get it.... you don't beleive in any of this
You think it is all garbage and foolish
We all get that

Now one has to ask, why a person would come online and
consistently carry on picking holes in something they themselves hold no value for
One would have to assume said individual is deeply unhappy or perhaps they are psychotic in some way, or perhaps they just like berating others, perhaps they were "burned" by a religion and now, filled with anger, have to get back at others...

whatever the case, even if things were explained to you, you wouldnt listen or accept them.....You don't ask questions for answers, you ask questions to deride and cause confusion, which can be useful if a person is ultimatly seeking to learn something; however if they are just throwing throwing rocks in a pond, for no reason....all they will do is create the illusion that they are making a change. The pond itself will calm after....long after the stopne thrower gets bored and understands their actions are futile.... however long that will take.
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
Friend Mr. Cheese,



:shout Master, are you ashamed to teach junior high students??
your obedient student,
all ears!

Love & rgds

friend Zen,

the student is merely here to throw spitballs and disrupt the class
He has done this in other "lessons" (threads).....

Speaking to a deaf person is very difficult
Even more so, when they put their hands over their ears
and refuse to even try.....

deaf-ninja.jpg
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend Mr. Cheese,

Perhaps a change in your gestalt is not visible. You are watching the noises but not the silence that lies in its center the stillness.
A master is a master because he is only aware of the silence as noise, sounf\ds comes from that deep silence within to create.
So master, all ears here!
do continue.

Love & rgds
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend skydivephil,

Let this be the last time to make you aware that we all understand your language BUT we at RF! is trying to understand each other and live in harmony HERE. If you are not satisfied with responses from this thread, kindly fine others that is in your laegue. RF!c has created various sections or WAYS of which individuals like yourself should makr full use off by starting threads that is o their satisfaction.
Am sure you understand what the communication is all about.
Best Wishes for your THREADS.
Love & rgds
 
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