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The Problem with "Fighting" Homosexuality

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, you haven't "asked" me, you've insisted, demanded, and tried to offend me into citing the text that you are unwilling to find for yourself. That being the case, you will have to wonder. If you want to know, you must find it yourself.
Ah, I see. So you're still evading. Fine with me. Must not really be any evidence that the bible says what you claim. Why not just admit you have no leg to stand on, rather than playing the two-year-old power game of "NO! I don't wanna!"

I don't have to "wonder." I know that the bible does not say what you claim. I don't have to find it, because some non-existent something cannot, by definition, be found. Therefore, I confidently affirm that MikeSavage has no evidence that the bible says what he claims. He is therefore in error in his position in this thread, and has no credibility for the claims he is making.
 

MikeSavage

Active Member
Ah, I see. So you're still evading. Fine with me. Must not really be any evidence that the bible says what you claim. Why not just admit you have no leg to stand on, rather than playing the two-year-old power game of "NO! I don't wanna!"

I don't have to "wonder." I know that the bible does not say what you claim. I don't have to find it, because some non-existent something cannot, by definition, be found. Therefore, I confidently affirm that MikeSavage has no evidence that the bible says what he claims. He is therefore in error in his position in this thread, and has no credibility for the claims he is making.
Your childish insistence that I am "evading" is pretty strange. The evidence you seek is in the BIBLE. Look it up and don't be lazy. Power game? The only one playing games is yourself. You seem to like it. I hope it makes you happy, and I hope it gives you some sense of worth. As far as you knowing the Bible does not say what I've posted, well that is nothing more than untrue. I have not made any claims, I've stated facts that appear to be rejected by you. It's not my "claims" that you reject, but it is God's inspired word. No surprise there, you have a lot of company. Most of the inhabited Earth rejects it in some part, or in total, making those antichrist. Your "afirmation" is a display of the accuracy of my posts. It shows me once again that I am on the right track, and am accurate in my assertions. The more you complain and whine, themore I am certain that I speak the truth that the world rejects. It is for that reason, and others, that Jesus instructed all Christians to "be no part of the world", as the "world hates what is not it's own". He said many would reject his teachings, and these comments that I have been receiving most certainly indicate a fulfillment of that prophetic statement that he made so long ago.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Your childish insistence that I am "evading" is pretty strange. The evidence you seek is in the BIBLE. Look it up and don't be lazy. Power game? The only one playing games is yourself. You seem to like it. I hope it makes you happy, and I hope it gives you some sense of worth. As far as you knowing the Bible does not say what I've posted, well that is nothing more than untrue. I have not made any claims, I've stated facts that appear to be rejected by you. It's not my "claims" that you reject, but it is God's inspired word. No surprise there, you have a lot of company. Most of the inhabited Earth rejects it in some part, or in total, making those antichrist. Your "afirmation" is a display of the accuracy of my posts. It shows me once again that I am on the right track, and am accurate in my assertions. The more you complain and whine, themore I am certain that I speak the truth that the world rejects. It is for that reason, and others, that Jesus instructed all Christians to "be no part of the world", as the "world hates what is not it's own". He said many would reject his teachings, and these comments that I have been receiving most certainly indicate a fulfillment of that prophetic statement that he made so long ago.
Translation: "I got nothing, so I'm going to post a huge smoke screen, employing a bunch of empty platitudes."
 
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MikeSavage

Active Member
Translation: "I got nothing, so I'm going to post a huge smoke screen, employing a bunch of empty platitudes."
No, translation:
Your childish insistence that I am "evading" is pretty strange. The evidence you seek is in the BIBLE. Look it up and don't be lazy. Power game? The only one playing games is yourself. You seem to like it. I hope it makes you happy, and I hope it gives you some sense of worth. As far as you knowing the Bible does not say what I've posted, well that is nothing more than untrue. I have not made any claims, I've stated facts that appear to be rejected by you. It's not my "claims" that you reject, but it is God's inspired word. No surprise there, you have a lot of company. Most of the inhabited Earth rejects it in some part, or in total, making those antichrist. Your "afirmation" is a display of the accuracy of my posts. It shows me once again that I am on the right track, and am accurate in my assertions. The more you complain and whine, themore I am certain that I speak the truth that the world rejects. It is for that reason, and others, that Jesus instructed all Christians to "be no part of the world", as the "world hates what is not it's own". He said many would reject his teachings, and these comments that I have been receiving most certainly indicate a fulfillment of that prophetic statement that he made so long ago.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, translation:
Your childish insistence that I am "evading" is pretty strange. The evidence you seek is in the BIBLE. Look it up and don't be lazy. Power game? The only one playing games is yourself. You seem to like it. I hope it makes you happy, and I hope it gives you some sense of worth. As far as you knowing the Bible does not say what I've posted, well that is nothing more than untrue. I have not made any claims, I've stated facts that appear to be rejected by you. It's not my "claims" that you reject, but it is God's inspired word. No surprise there, you have a lot of company. Most of the inhabited Earth rejects it in some part, or in total, making those antichrist. Your "afirmation" is a display of the accuracy of my posts. It shows me once again that I am on the right track, and am accurate in my assertions. The more you complain and whine, themore I am certain that I speak the truth that the world rejects. It is for that reason, and others, that Jesus instructed all Christians to "be no part of the world", as the "world hates what is not it's own". He said many would reject his teachings, and these comments that I have been receiving most certainly indicate a fulfillment of that prophetic statement that he made so long ago.
Translation: "I still got nothing, and don't have a real rebuttal to your post, but I just can't let it go, so I'll just copy and paste my last post."

You're at the end of the line. You can only say, "I'm right, because, um... I just am" so many times, before it just becomes lame posting because you lack the wherewithal to stop.
 

MikeSavage

Active Member
Translation: "I still got nothing, and don't have a real rebuttal to your post, but I just can't let it go, so I'll just copy and paste my last post."

You're at the end of the line. You can only say, "I'm right, because, um... I just am" so many times, before it just becomes lame posting because you lack the wherewithal to stop.
Go away, stop stalking me, stop acting like apostate extroadinaire, and stop displaying the opposite behavior to that taught by Jesus.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Go away, stop stalking me, stop acting like apostate extroadinaire, and stop displaying the opposite behavior to that taught by Jesus.
Sorry, debate forums don't work that way.

BTW, what makes you think I ought to "act like Jesus?" And why would you want me to, especially when you're misrepresenting what the bible says? Jesus didn't cotton to that kind of nonsense.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
You fail to understand that I am NOT misrepresenting what the inspired word of God says. You fail to understand His word, because He does not see in you an honest heart, and Satan's effort at misleading the entire inhabited Earth has you caught up in it. If God saw an honest heart in you, you would know what the scriptural message is, but as it stands, he doesn't. That does not appear to be something that will ever change.
You're in no position to judge my spiritual disposition; you don't know me, and you're apparently not open minded enough to appropriately discern.

I understand just fine, and I understand that you're making things up for your own comfort.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You fail to understand that I am NOT misrepresenting what the inspired word of God says. You fail to understand His word, because He does not see in you an honest heart, and Satan's effort at misleading the entire inhabited Earth has you caught up in it. If God saw an honest heart in you, you would know what the scriptural message is, but as it stands, he doesn't. That does not appear to be something that will ever change.
No one has the duty to accept your claim of being the pure expression of God's word, nor are you giving much if any reason for anyone to trust or even sympathise with it.

I sure hope you realize that.
 

MikeSavage

Active Member
You're in no position to judge my spiritual disposition; you don't know me, and you're apparently not open minded enough to appropriately discern.

I understand just fine, and I understand that you're making things up for your own comfort.
Nope. Your behavior shows exactly what you think of God and His word with no doubt whatsoever. Open minded or not, discerning is no problem. Just need to use the scriptures for that. And, I am very open minded. It appears that discerning isn't your strong suit.
 

McBell

Unbound
Nope. Your behavior shows exactly what you think of God and His word with no doubt whatsoever. Open minded or not, discerning is no problem. Just need to use the scriptures for that. And, I am very open minded. It appears that discerning isn't your strong suit.
Matthew 7:1-3
`Judge not, that ye may not be judged, for in what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and in what measure ye measure, it shall be measured to you.
`And why dost thou behold the mote that [is] in thy brother's eye, and the beam that [is] in thine own eye dost not consider?​

Sad you missed this part when "studying" your Bible...
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Open minded or not, discerning is no problem.
Of course it is, because your "discernment" has led you to this conclusion:
Your behavior shows exactly what you think of God and His word with no doubt whatsoever.
What's so hilarious is that you still have no idea about me, yet you're trying to convince everyone that you do.
It appears that discerning isn't your strong suit.
Yeah, but what you think "appears" has, thus far, been wholly WRONG.
 

MikeSavage

Active Member
Of course it is, because your "discernment" has led you to this conclusion:

What's so hilarious is that you still have no idea about me, yet you're trying to convince everyone that you do.

Yeah, but what you think "appears" has, thus far, been wholly WRONG.
Your actions don't bear that out one little bit. Your actions show that my assessment is totally accurate.
 

McBell

Unbound
Your actions don't bear that out one little bit. Your actions show that my assessment is totally accurate.
Says you.
But then, you have made all manner of unsubstantiated claims you cannot be bothered to substantiate.
So to be quite blunt and to the point, you can be dismissed as nothing more than wishful thinking.
 
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