The prophets tell us that THE SCRIBES HAD CHANGED THE GOD'S LAW

[Akivah]

Whatever Bible version is there; one should remain focused on the prime and core teachings; and the secondary teachings should be understood in the light of them.

Regards

In your opinion, what verses and/or books are the prime and core teachings?

 

[paarsurrey]

In your opinion, what verses and/or books are the prime and core teachings?

The prime teaching of Moses:

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
6. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart.
7. And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up.
8. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes.
9. And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates.


Deuteronomy - Chapter 6 (Parshah Va'etchanan) - Tanakh Online - Torah - Bible

This is the essence of all commandments and the Law of Moses;one who does not follow this teaching with all the emphasis made by Moses; does not in effect follow Moses.

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[metis]

G-d does not walk in a garden; why should He? This also means physical personification of G-d; impossible.

All such stories are mind-working of the narrators/scribes.

Regards

Well:

Genesis 3 [8]: And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

 

[paarsurrey]

Well:

Genesis 3 [8]: And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

This is all doings of the narrators and scribes. G-d does no need to walk; and coolness of the day or its being hot does not effect G-d.

Does it effect G-d?

Regards

 

[metis]

This is all doings of the narrators and scribes. G-d does no need to walk; and coolness of the day or its being hot does not effect G-d.

Does it effect G-d?

Regards

I knew you were going to write something like this because you just can't bring yourself to admit that you're clearly wrong, as the scriptural quote shows. You said it wasn't in Torah, but it is, and now you simply are so disingenuous as to fabricate the above excuse.

 

[Muffled]

Great. I think if christians don't consider the Torah jewish scripture then they should stop distorting it, and stick to their own scripture.

You can believe whatever you want to try and make your square peg fit into the round hole, however, the passage is talking about "world peace", which hasn't occurred.

In fact jewish history was extremely violent during jesus.

I believe God never distorts His word but Jews have been known to do so and Christians and Muslims also.

That is fine but my understanding is that it will not occur until Jesus returns which fulfills the prophecy.

 

[Muffled]

• World peace
• All the jews coming to Israel
• All the jews staying in Israel
• He will be a descendent of David (lineage goes solely through the biological father)
• The temple in jerusalem will be rebuilt and stand forever
• He will be a unified king of Israel

I believe Jesus is a decendant of David and God does not go by man's idea of succession and there was no king of Israel to succeed.

I believe the New Jerusalem has been built but not on earth and will not arrive until Jesus returns. There will be a temple built but it will belong to the antichrist, the devil incarnate who the Jews will worship as the Messiah.

I beleive God doesn't settle for second best. He will be king over everyone and is my king now and I am not Jewish.

 

[metis]

There will be a temple built but it will belong to the antichrist, the devil incarnate who the Jews will worship as the Messiah.

Since we've been worshiping the One God for over 3000 years now, why would you propose that we would switch or suddenly pray to another deity or a human?

 

[Muffled]

This is all doings of the narrators and scribes. G-d does no need to walk; and coolness of the day or its being hot does not effect G-d.

Does it effect G-d?

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In Jesus He walks.

 

[paarsurrey]

Genesis 3 [8]: And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

In Jesus He walks.

And Jesus never existed at that time.

Jesus prayed in the garden (Gethsemani) from the One-True-God whom he used to address as father, that he should be saved is death on the Cross .

Matthew- 26:36-40
[36] Then Jesus came with them into a country place which is called Gethsemani; and he said to his disciples: Sit you here, till I go yonder and pray. [37] And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to grow sorrowful and to be sad. [38] Then he saith to them: My soul is sorrowful even unto death: stay you here, and watch with me. [39] And going a little further, he fell upon his face, praying, and saying: My Father, if it be possible, let this chalice pass from me. Nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. [40] And he cometh to his disciples, and findeth them asleep, and he saith to Peter: What? Could you not watch one hour with me?

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible, Gospel According to Saint Matthew Chapter 26

And the One-True-God saved his life and Jesus died naturally and peacefully in India.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvrON2xwFYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Ecm4gMhiM#t=14

Regards

 

[Akivah]

The prime teaching of Moses:

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
6. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart.
7. And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up.
8. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes.
9. And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates.


This is the essence of all commandments and the Law of Moses;one who does not follow this teaching with all the emphasis made by Moses; does not in effect follow Moses.

regards

How do you know that this isn't the doings of narrators and scribes?

 

[paarsurrey]

How do you know that this isn't the doings of narrators and scribes?

Oneness of G-d is common in all the revealed religions in almost all revealed religions of the world; it is a common global factor.

Don't you believe that?

Regards

 

[Akivah]

Originally Posted by Akivah
How do you know that this isn't the doings of narrators and scribes?

Oneness of G-d is common in all the revealed religions in almost all revealed religions of the world; it is a common global factor.

Regards

Are you saying that only the commonalities between religions represent the true teachings of Moses?

 

[CMike]

The prime teaching of Moses:

4. Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God; the Lord is one.
5. And you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul, and with all your means.
6. And these words, which I command you this day, shall be upon your heart.
7. And you shall teach them to your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk on the way, and when you lie down and when you rise up.
8. And you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand, and they shall be for ornaments between your eyes.
9. And you shall inscribe them upon the doorposts of your house and upon your gates.


Deuteronomy - Chapter 6 (Parshah Va'etchanan) - Tanakh Online - Torah - Bible

This is the essence of all commandments and the Law of Moses;one who does not follow this teaching with all the emphasis made by Moses; does not in effect follow Moses.

regards

We don't follow Moses, we follow G-D.

 

[CMike]

Jesus was not nuts. He was God and his commandments written in the Gospel were the true Law of God.

Those who, having known the Gospel, come back to the law of the Old Testament, are those who have already lost their mind.

How do you know he wasn't nuts? He sounds nuts to me.

 

[CMike]

Jesus was not god; OK.
I don't think that Moses believed any personification of G-d; so that implies that G-d needs no face.

Then why Jewish Bible mentions it?

Regards

To let us know that G-D doesn't have physical manifestations.

And that if you are worshipping someone that you can see, you are worshipping a falsae god.

 

[CMike]

I believe God never distorts His word but Jews have been known to do so and Christians and Muslims also.

That is fine but my understanding is that it will not occur until Jesus returns which fulfills the prophecy.

You can read them for yourself.

I listed the sources.

They are not distorted. I gave the text.

 

[Robert.Evans]

How do you know he wasn't nuts? He sounds nuts to me.

You are the one using blue type!

 

[paarsurrey]

To let us know that G-D doesn't have physical manifestations.

And that if you are worshipping someone that you can see, you are worshipping a falsae god.

Please reflect:

Physical Manifestation

Christianity believes that G-d came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

The Torah states that G-d cannot not take any form.:

"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)

"You did not see any form on the day G-d spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire" (Deuteronomy 4:15)

As little as we may know about G-d's nature, Judaism has always believed that G-d is Incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form.

Ask the Rabbi « Ask The Rabbi « Ohr Somayach

Regards

 

[Avi1001]

Very good, Paar, you have shown us that you know what any 7 year old Jew knows. Can you now move that up to the 10 year old level ? Before you know it, you will be ready for Bar Mitzvah.

Please reflect:

Physical Manifestation

Christianity believes that G-d came down to earth in human form, as Jesus said: "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30).

The Torah states that G-d cannot not take any form.:

"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)

"You did not see any form on the day G-d spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of fire" (Deuteronomy 4:15)

As little as we may know about G-d's nature, Judaism has always believed that G-d is Incorporeal, meaning that He assumes no physical form.

Ask the Rabbi « Ask The Rabbi « Ohr Somayach

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