The prophets tell us that THE SCRIBES HAD CHANGED THE GOD'S LAW

[metis]

The church of the apostles and early Christians did not order those things ... That came after the fourth century, when the Roman emperors becomes heads of religion of the empire, religion which were called, the religion of Rome ...

The church of the apostles and early Christians did not kill anyone, they no imposed death sentences, they did not imposed bondage, and nor wars against anyone ... the early Christians had mercy and they forgive to all men...

If you actually studied church history you would realize that the church of the apostles still remained the church of the apostles after the conversion of Constantine. Just because Constantine converted does not mean that the leaders of the church, both regional and local, all croaked. Matter of fact, it was this church under Constantine that selected the Biblical canon that you read.

Also you knew the history you would be aware of the fact that the churches that later splintered from the church of the apostles, namely the Coptic, Orthodox, and Protestant churches, also had issues of violence against some non-Christians. The only churches that didn't are what are called the "peace churches", and they evolved rather late onto the scene in Europe.

 

[Robert.Evans]

It was all that Christian love.

haha, I guess they sound like early Yisrael, hey

 

[CMike]

The church of the apostles and early Christians did not order those things ... That came after the fourth century, when the Roman emperors becomes heads of religion of the empire, religion which were called, the religion of Rome ...

The church of the apostles and early Christians did not kill anyone, they no imposed death sentences, they did not imposed bondage, and nor wars against anyone ... the early Christians had mercy and they forgive to all men...

Except for the ones whom didn't convert to christianty.


Those people they tortured, and mass murdered by christian leadership.

 

[outhouse]

Also you knew the history you would be aware of the fact that the churches that later splintered from the church of the apostles
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Do you actually think there was a house in Jerusalem that was founded by any REAL Galilean apostles that followed Jesus?????????

 

[metis]

Do you actually think there was a house in Jerusalem that was founded by any REAL Galilean apostles that followed Jesus?????????

How does this question relate? Who said anything about a "house"? "Ecclesia" does not imply church, house, or any other building.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Except for the ones whom didn't convert to christianty.


Those people they tortured, and mass murdered by christian leadership.

Sounds like Yisrael and the OT to me

 

[Porque77]

If you actually studied church history you would realize that the church of the apostles still remained the church of the apostles after the conversion of Constantine.

Constantine never converted, because if he had become, he had delivered all goods to the poor and had ceased to be emperor and had stopped killing people.

The Emperor Constantine was the terror of those times, who wanted to dominate the Christian religion to wipe Christ's commandments written in the Gospel and impose the laws of the Old Testament and the letters attributed to Paul..., containing different laws to the commandments of the Gospel.

Matter of fact, it was this church under Constantine that selected the Biblical canon that you read.

The biblical canon of the early Christians was only the gospel. But the emperors of Rome did not want the Gospel. And then, they imposed the laws of the Old Testament and the letters attributed to Paul. And all to leave drowned the Gospel among a pile of books with different laws to the Gospel.

The only churches that didn't are what are called the "peace churches", and they evolved rather late onto the scene in Europe.

I have not known peace churches because all somehow justify wars and death sentences. And these customs come from that religion of Rome was directed and dominated by emperors ... This system has not changed since then.

 

[CMike]

Originally Posted by CMike
Except for the ones whom didn't convert to christianty.


Those people they tortured, and mass murdered by christian leadership.

Sounds like Yisrael and the OT to me

A rather odd statement since jews have never tried to convert anyone.

 

[paarsurrey]

I believe God has always existed.

I believe you have been reading too much disinformation.

Not the Christian-god called Jesus.
How could the Christian-god exist always before? Jesus was later carved into a god by Paul from myth. Christian-god was made in Rome on the road to Damascus.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I read your post several times to see if I was reading this out of context, to see if there was some other way to understand it, some other meaning I just was not getting.

Maybe, it's too early in the morning, but I couldn't find any other meaning to it.

I think by now the morning would have been over. Please comment now on Muffled's post in the day-light.

Thanks and regards

 

[Muffled]

I read your post several times to see if I was reading this out of context, to see if there was some other way to understand it, some other meaning I just was not getting.

Maybe, it's too early in the morning, but I couldn't find any other meaning to it.

I believe one should read about the Babylonian captivity. What wsa it that ticked God off so much that He was willing to destroy his own temple. Then fast forward to another time when the temple was destroyed and I will postulate that God was angry about the same thing. I also believe that same thing has not been rectified yet and probably will not be until the end of time.

 

[Muffled]

So, it's quite OK for God to commit genocide against children and innocent adults?

I believe He can do whatever He wants with whoever He wants becasue He is God. I believe there is an old fifties saying "yolu can like it or lump it."

 

[Muffled]

It was all that Christian love.

I believe there is an old saying "there is a lot of slip between the cup and lip."

I believe I love you as God would love you (and I beleive He is very angry with you) but sometimes it has to be tough love although God told me not to be too hard on you.

 

[RabbiO]

I believe one should read about the Babylonian captivity. What wsa it that ticked God off so much that He was willing to destroy his own temple. Then fast forward to another time when the temple was destroyed and I will postulate that God was angry about the same thing. I also believe that same thing has not been rectified yet and probably will not be until the end of time.

Well, that tells me more than everything I need to know about you.

 

[paarsurrey]

I believe one should read about the Babylonian captivity. What wsa it that ticked God off so much that He was willing to destroy his own temple. Then fast forward to another time when the temple was destroyed and I will postulate that God was angry about the same thing. I also believe that same thing has not been rectified yet and probably will not be until the end of time.

None is G-d's own people; except the righteous. If they became evil; G-d won't hesitate in destroying them.
One should learn lesson from Noah and his people.

Regards

 

[Robert.Evans]

A rather odd statement since jews have never tried to convert anyone.

Good point, I meant more along the lines of murder etc. You might call it war

 

[Flankerl]

War in antiquity? Oh no!

 

[Porque77]

Except for the ones whom didn't convert to christianty.

Those people they tortured, and mass murdered by christian leadership.

That happened from the fourth century (Emperor Constantine and his descendants), when the emperors of Rome imposed on Christians the Old Testament laws. But the early Christians did not commit these crimes, because the commandments of Jesus Christ were all merciful.

The Gospel teach us the true God's commanments:

The Law of God taught by Jesus Christ

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets". (Matthew 7:12)

Jesus teaches to a rich man, the precepts of the Law

"And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions" (Matthew 19: 16-22)

Greedy men with many goods, never wanted the commandments of Jesus Christ, and these men were the ones who made many religions called: Jews, "Messianic Jews", "Ephraimites", "Catholics" and others called "Christians"..., religions that do not follow the commandments of the Gospel.

None rich man wanted distribute their property with the poor as Jesus commanded, for this reason those men did their own religions, for leave unknown the commandments of Jesus Christ.

 

[Muffled]

Well, that tells me more than everything I need to know about you.

I believe that doesn't tell me much since I wasn't talking about me but about God and His judgement.

 

[Muffled]

None is G-d's own people; except the righteous. If they became evil; G-d won't hesitate in destroying them.
One should learn lesson from Noah and his people.

Regards

I believe God has stated that the Jews are His people and I haven't seen anything that changes that. Granted they are not the Sons of God becasue that is a designation for those who believe in Jesus as Savior.