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The prophets tell us that THE SCRIBES HAD CHANGED THE GOD'S LAW

CMike

Well-Known Member
You think that the Torah is dictated then? Most scholars think that it is written by more than one writer, which seems fairly obvious when Mosheh is supposed to be commenting in books when he is already dead.

What is Dvarim Chapter 13

One explanation is that it was still dictated by G-D to Moses even about his own death. Another explanation is that Joshua completed it by having it dictatated to him by G-D.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
And yet even if his face was not seen, he was still seen. So how? And if Yahshuah has God within him, and is part of him, what is so bad about saying he is the son of God. Even we are called that, even early Yisrael was called that. How did he see his back parts, feet, eat with him.
I'm just a simple Christian who believes in the Gospel. In the Gospel we found the true commandments of God, which liberated us of the commandments of death and slavery of the Old Testament.


 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
Porque77 said:

No one saw God before, but God became Man. So Jesus made ​​known to God:

"No one has ever seen God. The unique God, who is close to the Father's side, has revealed him". (John 1:18)

"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)
Those are things of the Old Testament, and Christians have the teachings of Jesus Christ. And Jesus says so:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?" (John 14:6-11).


 
He who has seen the Son now must needs find the Father of the Son in the OLD TESTAMENT just like his Law, as it has been stated, <<<the commandments of death and slavery of the Old Testament.>>>
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
I'm just a simple Christian who believes in the Gospel. In the Gospel we found the true commandments of God, which liberated us of the commandments of death and slavery of the Old Testament.
Actually it's the christian bible that commands you to slay anyone who doesn't believe in jesus.

Hundreds of thousands if not millions of people were slaughtered for not converting to christianaity.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by CMike
"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)
Those are things of the Old Testament, and Christians have the teachings of Jesus Christ. And Jesus says so:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye would have known my Father also: from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and dost thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; how sayest thou, Show us the Father?" (John 14:6-11).




I actually agree with you on something. The christian bible has nothing to do with the jewish bible and the G-D in the jewish bible.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Originally Posted by CMike
"You will not be able to see My face, for no human can see my face and live" (Exodus 33:18-20)


I actually agree with you on something. The christian bible has nothing to do with the jewish bible and the G-D in the jewish bible.

If that is the case, then you have a false God
 

JM2C

CHRISTIAN
One explanation is that it was still dictated by G-D to Moses even about his own death. Another explanation is that Joshua completed it by having it dictatated to him by G-D.
I have to agree with you on this one. Who could have written Genesis if not Moses?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I'm sure according to christians that is true.

However, as a jew I feel confident that we have the right G-D.

I would not consider myself to be Christian, though it might well be put at my door by many. I too am confident that you have the right God, but perhaps the wrong hand.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I have to agree with you on this one. Who could have written Genesis if not Moses?

Many writers could adding and interpolating the writings until it all made sense off what they knew and held dear. Most would be held by word of mouth at first, and then written later. This is not a problem however, for these things are written for us to understand as Paul ( I think) says
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
The man Jesus PROVED that he wasn't G-d. Since the stories say that nobody died when looking at his face, he can't be G-d.
Hi Akivah. Those things are things of the Old Testament, but the Old Testament is over. Now we have Jesus Christ, who is God became &#8203;&#8203;man. And He came to show us the true commandments of God.

The Law of God taught by Jesus Christ

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets" (Matthew 7: 12)

Jesus teaches to a rich man, the precepts of the Law

"And behold, one came to him and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why askest thou me concerning that which is good? One there is who is good: but if thou wouldest enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? And Jesus said, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I observed: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that which thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. But when the young man heard the saying, he went away sorrowful; for he was one that had great possessions" (Matthew 19: 16-22

These are the commandments of the Gospel, which are very different to the commandments of the Old Testament, for all the commandments of the Gospel are merciful, but many commandments of the Old Testament commanded death sentences, wars and slavery.
And those commandments weren't really God's Law.

Jesus Christ preached us the true God's Law, but Roma's emperors (emperor Constantine, IV century) don't wanted the Gospel's Law and they imposed the Old Testament's laws saying these laws were the God's commandments. Since then, the Gospel's Law was unknown to the christian people as the only God's Law and the God's true Law.

 

JM2C

CHRISTIAN
Many writers could adding and interpolating the writings until it all made sense off what they knew and held dear. Most would be held by word of mouth at first, and then written later. This is not a problem however, for these things are written for us to understand as Paul ( I think) says
I think this verse is what you are looking for,

1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

What Paul was referring in this verse were the things the Israelites or the people did in the wilderness on how they sinned against God.

“Adding and interpolating” by “many writers” could cause contradictory extrapolation of the very word of God or the bible. That is the reason why there is only One author of the bible [O.T. and N.T.] and that is God Himself to avoid “adding and interpolating” by “many un-authorize writers”.

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Note: “private interpretation” that could cause “adding and interpolating”

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Note: “by the will of man” or “many un-authorize writers”

IOW, “God spake” from Genesis to Revelation to the “holy men” and they were from Moses to John “as they were moved by the Holy Ghost”
 
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