The Random, Meaningless Announcements Thread 3!

[Brickjectivity]

Re-thinking use of anti-seize compound
on lug nuts....reduce torque, or torque
them on dry?

On a non-commercial sized vehicle? Just make it very tight. You don't need any special sauce if the lug nut is not rusty. Tighten by hand while the wheel is suspended. Lower the vehicle. Then tighten it with all of your might. I stand upon the end of the wrench, and there is a slight creaking noise that proceeds from the lugs. They are tight.

 

[Viker]

It did get cold.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Re-thinking use of anti-seize compound
on lug nuts....reduce torque, or torque
them on dry?

What's it being used on? That's a question like "do I need a torque wrench?" Properly for most jobs, yes. (With a car, anyways) Absolutely necessary for some of those jobs? Not really. Oil pan plug? Why? Spark plugs? Never without (torque wrench and anti-seize compoundz that is).

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I stand upon the end of the wrench, and there is a slight creaking noise that proceeds from the lugs.

I had to do that once to take off a drive axle lug nut.

 

[Wu Wei]

Using Fixodent?

NAH, it wasn't dented...it just fell off the wall

 

[sun rise]

.it just fell off the all

Fell off the all? That sounds serious.

 

[ChristineM]

Does the handle fall off the cup or does the cup fall off the handle?

 

[sun rise]

Fell off the all? That sounds serious.

And God said "Can you handle the cup of my grace or will you fall to pieces?"

 

[Revoltingest]

On a non-commercial sized vehicle? Just make it very tight. You don't need any special sauce if the lug nut is not rusty. Tighten by hand while the wheel is suspended. Lower the vehicle. Then tighten it with all of your might. I stand upon the end of the wrench, and there is a slight creaking noise that proceeds from the lugs. They are tight.

Over-tightening can damage the lugs.
Options I see...
1) Clean the lugs & nuts. Torque to manufacturer spec.
2) Anti-seize lugs. Torque about 20% less for equivalent
tension in the lug.

BTW, I once tried to remove 1" diameter cylinder head studs
on a large engine. Broke one off. So over torqueing is
possible....& spendy. (I'm stronger than the average nerd.)

 

[Revoltingest]

What's it being used on? That's a question like "do I need a torque wrench?" Properly for most jobs, yes. (With a car, anyways) Absolutely necessary for some of those jobs? Not really. Oil pan plug? Why? Spark plugs? Never without (torque wrench and anti-seize compoundz that is).

It applies to all my vehicles, from Ms Vibe to Mr Van to Mr Trailer
(both). I always use a torque wrench for lug nuts. Also on some
bicycle fasteners....those things are too finicky.

 

[Wu Wei]

BTW, I once tried to remove 1" diameter cylinder head studs
on a large engine. Broke one off. So over torqueing is
possible....& spendy. (I'm stronger than the average nerd.)

1 inch diameter bolt....what the heck were you working on, a tugboat engine? And what were you using to break it?

There are other reasons, besides over torquing, that can cause that to happen.

It applies to all my vehicles, from Ms Vibe to Mr Van to Mr Trailer
(both). I always use a torque wrench for lug nuts. Also on some
bicycle fasteners....those things are too finicky.

Obviously never a professional mechanic. (And mechanical engineer does not count as a 'Mechanic')

 

[Brickjectivity]

Over-tightening can damage the lugs.
Options I see...
1) Clean the lugs & nuts. Torque to manufacturer spec.
2) Anti-seize lugs. Torque 20%+/- less for equivalent tension in lug.

BTW, I once tried to remove 1" diameter cylinder head studs
on a large engine. Broke one off. So over torqueing is
possible....& spendy. (I'm stronger than the average nerd.)

I'd be embarrassed to drag (literally) my car to a mechanic to explain I had stripped the threads.

 

[Revoltingest]

1 inch diameter bolt....what the heck were you working on, a tugboat engine? And what were you using to break it?

An Olin oil field engine.
About 25 HP (single cylinder) @ about 200 rpm

There are other reasons, besides over torqueing, that can cause that to happen.

I was young....more strength than smarts.
I don't break so many things now.
(More PB blaster, heating, & hammering before wrenching.)

Obviously never a professional mechanic. (And mechanical engineer does not count as a 'Mechanic')

One learns by trying things.
Making mistakes will happen.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd be embarrassed to drag (literally) my car to a mechanic to explain I had stripped the threads.

I hate such "learning experiences".

 

[Wu Wei]

An Olin oil field engine.
About 25 HP (single cylinder) @ about 200 rpm

I was young....more strength than smarts.
I don't break so many things now.
(More PB blaster, heating, & hammering before wrenching.)

One learns by trying things.
Making mistakes will happen.

Had to look that up, Olin oil field engine, that beast is a single cylinder?

 

[Revoltingest]

Had to look that up, Olin oil field engine, that beast is a single cylinder?

It looked much like this....but not in such fine condition.

 

[ChristineM]

One learns by trying things.
Making mistakes will happen.

There is a saying in the UK, probably in Revoltistan too..

An engineer (even a retired engineer) who never made a mistake never made anything.

 

[ChristineM]

but not in such fine condition

Especially after you'd finished making mistakes on it

 

[Wu Wei]

It looked much like this....but not in such fine condition.

How many Cubic inch was the cylinder

 

[Revoltingest]

Especially after you'd finished making mistakes on it

I sold it rather than renovate it.
Other mistakes were calling me.