The real cause of Islamic terrorism-- the yogic perspective

[gnostic]

I see you conveniently failed to quote why the statues were destroyed. Which would you rather have done, statues maintained who neither eat, nor need shelter, nor medicine and that if destroyed feel no pain, or would you rather hungry men, women, and children be fed and clothed? Or is it that muslim men, women, and children do not deserve such things?

Sorry but how does destroying the statue, help to feed anyone? I don't see the relevance here.

How would Muslims react if people destroy 3 largest and holiest Islamic mosques?

I am sure they would react with similar outrage as the destruction of the temple, and seek revenge.

Muslims would similar let their own people in order to repair any damage to their most sacred mosques. Muslims would probably say that the statue only encourage idol worshipping, but Muslims do seem to be worshipping their prophet and their mosques, which is similar to idol worshipping too.

 

[TashaN]

The attacks on Muslims are part of a concerted campaign of Hindu nationalist organizations to promote and exploit communal tensions to further the BJP's political rule-a movement that is supported at the local level by militant groups that operate with impunity and under the patronage of the state. The groups most directly responsible for violence against Muslims in Gujarat include the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, the Bajrang Dal, the ruling BJP, and the umbrella organization Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (National Volunteer Corps, RSS), all of whom collectively form the sangh parivar (or "family" of Hindu nationalist groups). These organizations, although different in many respects, have all promoted the argument that because Hindus constitute the majority of Indians, India should be a Hindu state.

Nationwide violence against India's Muslim community in 1992 and 1993 and against India's Christian community since 1998, including in the state of Gujarat, have also stemmed from the violent activities and hate propaganda of these groups. Human Rights Watch and Indian human rights groups have long warned of the potential scale of death and destruction resulting from the sangh parivar's Hindu nationalist agenda.1 If the activities of these groups remain unchecked, violence may continue to engulf the state, and may spread to other parts of the country.

http://hrw.org/reports/2002/india/India0402.htm#P106_4953

General Ne Win started the Myanmar Tatmadaw's Crime against Humanity on Muslims

When General Ne Win swept to power on a wave of nationalism in 1962, the status of Muslims changed for the worse. Muslims were expelled from the army and were rapidly marginalized[3]. Myanmar has a Buddhist majority. Muslims are stereotyped in the society as "cattle killers" (referring to the cattle sacrifice festival of Eid Al Adha in Islam). The generic racist slur of "kala" (black) used against perceived "foreigners" has especially negative connotations when referring to Burmese Muslims. The more pious Muslims communities who segregate themselves from the Buddhist majority face greater difficulties than those who integrate more at the cost of observance to Islamic personal laws.[4]
http://www.answers.com/topic/islam-in-myanmar


VIOLENCE AGAINST ARAB AND MUSLIM AMERICANS:
Alabama to Massachusetts
http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_hate.jsp?id=278

war in Bosnia and Herzegovina
http://www.answers.com/topic/war-in-bosnia-and-herzegovina

Bosnian Genocide
http://www.answers.com/topic/bosnian-genocide

Srebrenica massacre
http://www.answers.com/topic/srebrenica-massacre

Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse
http://www.answers.com/topic/abu-ghraib-torture-and-prisoner-abuse-1

Bagram torture and prisoner abuse
http://www.answers.com/topic/bagram-torture-and-prisoner-abuse

Qur'an desecration controversy of 2005
http://www.answers.com/topic/qur-an-desecration-controversy-of-2005

persecution of Muslims
http://www.answers.com/topic/persecution-of-muslims

 

[TashaN]

Sorry but how does destroying the statue, help to feed anyone? I don't see the relevance here.

How would Muslims react if people destroy 3 largest and holiest Islamic mosques?

I am sure they would react with similar outrage as the destruction of the temple, and seek revenge.

I agree with you, that's why the muslims scholars were clear about this issue and they condemned it, and even sent many scholars to Taliban in order to convience them not to do it.

http://www.islamonline.net/english/News/2001-03/02/article17.shtml

http://www.islamonline.net/english/News/2001-03/02/article15.shtml

Muslims would probably say that the statue only encourage idol worshipping

You are much smarter than that dear gnostic, and i'm surprised of your generalizing, and i hope you will read the links above in order to know the real reactions of Muslims toward this case.

but Muslims do seem to be worshipping their prophet and their mosques, which is similar to idol worshipping too.

This is wide known misconception about Islam and Muslims and i hope that you will not use such accusations in the future to back up any incident, because Muslims only worship one God and no one else. Prophet Mohammed is his prophet and he was just a human being who was sent to the worlds, and the mosque is where we worship and pray to God but it's not necassary to be at specific mosques because all the earth is the mosques of Allah and we can pray in his land anywhere.

 

[gnostic]

This is wide known misconception about Islam and Muslims and i hope that you will not use such accusations in the future to back up any incident, because Muslims only worship one God and no one else. Prophet Mohammed is his prophet and he was just a human being who was sent to the worlds,

I understand what you are saying, but when (some) Muslims accuse non-Muslims of blasphemy against Muhammad, then they are basically treating Muhammad as being god-like.

Blasphemy means "the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God". When you use with a human, then you are actually showering Muhammad with non-human reverence.

I can understand if a remark about the prophet would be considered "offensive", but not when they accuse others by saying it is "blasphemy".

 

[fullyveiled muslimah]

Sorry but how does destroying the statue, help to feed anyone? I don't see the relevance here.

How would Muslims react if people destroy 3 largest and holiest Islamic mosques?

I am sure they would react with similar outrage as the destruction of the temple, and seek revenge.

Muslims would similar let their own people in order to repair any damage to their most sacred mosques. Muslims would probably say that the statue only encourage idol worshipping, but Muslims do seem to be worshipping their prophet and their mosques, which is similar to idol worshipping too.

i suggest you re-read mohamed's post regarding this and then the subsequent posts. The whole problem was that the taliban were offered money to maintain the statues, and when they said they would use that money not for the statues but for the people's well-being, they were denied the money. So the logic I assume was if they destroy the statues, they are removed from being a focal point. I am not really debating the right or wrong of it, but it begs the question why would they be willing to pay for the upkeep of inanimate objects when the welfare of human beings are in the balance. It is a question of prioritizing.

 

[gnostic]

If your boss gave you money to deposit in his bank, and you donate it to charity, then the boss have every right to be angry with you and prosecute you, no matter if your motive for being generous with other people's money is pure or not.

The organisation, in this case the UN, had every right to say where the money go, do they not? It is the money for the Talibans to do. And regardless what the motive or priority of the organisation where the money goes. And regardless of whether you agree with it or not, the Talibans were wrong to destroy the statues. It is part of history of Afghanistan, not just the current stupid regime.

If the UN allocated money for desperate repair of the most sacred mosque, well I don't think I would see any Muslim government destroying the mosque in order to feed the poor.

 

[TashaN]

I understand what you are saying, but when (some) Muslims accuse non-Muslims of blasphemy against Muhammad, then they are basically treating Muhammad as being god-like.

Blasphemy means "the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God". When you use with a human, then you are actually showering Muhammad with non-human reverence.

I can understand if a remark about the prophet would be considered "offensive", but not when they accuse others by saying it is "blasphemy".

I'm not that good in english but also i don't recall anyone claiming that insulting prophet Mohammed is blasphemy "according to the defintion you provided", but anyway, the status of God is not the same as Mohammed and there is no point in comparing between them because we worship God alone and we have to believe in and respect all the prophets of Allah, for they are the prophets and Messengers sent to us through a direct order by God.

 

[gnostic]

Do you remember the Danish cartoonist incidence?

Well, I don't speak Arabic or whatever language, people who were protesting, but I can read several banners, written in English, in which they had equated the (stupidly offensive) drawing of Muhammad as being "blasphemy".

 

[TashaN]

Do you remember the Danish cartoonist incidence?

Well, I don't speak Arabic or whatever language, people who were protesting, but I can read several banners, written in English, in which they had equated the (stupidly offensive) drawing of Muhammad as being "blasphemy".

According to the dictionary:

1. blasphemy - blasphemous language (expressing disrespect for God or for something sacred)
discourtesy, disrespect - an expression of lack of respect

profanity - vulgar or irreverent speech or action

2. blasphemy - blasphemous behavior; the act of depriving something of its sacred character; "desecration of the Holy Sabbath".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/blasphemy


1 a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity
2 : irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/blasphemy

 

[niranjan]

Hmmm, yeah, you will never know, or maybe the other way around, don't want to know. .

Whatever that may be, I can say that all rape and sadistic physical torture is a part of islamic terrorist culture and many proofs point out to this, in many cultures. I have never read of Bush having a personal harem of kidnapped muslim women and little girls.

Keep your own dictionary for yourself, i only deal with facts but not with personal judgements..

Oh trust me, there is numerous facts on islamic terrorism which started in the 7 th century which is well documented.

A good example is the Zoroastrians in persia or iran, who were tortured and killed for resisting islam, and whom were forcibly converted to Islam, and whose temples were destroyed by islamic terrorists. As I stated before, many Zoroastrians fled to India where their hindu and buddhist brothers gave them refuge, and full freedom of worship and hence you can find them in India, with their culture, religion and heritage intact., though I am sure they miss their motherland. But mother India is their home now.

What is the name of your personal dictionary by the way?..

Oxford dictionary.

No one is forcing anyone to leave his religion, but if you have any evidence for that, i'll be so interested to know about it.?..

yeah sure, tell that to the numerous zoroastrians, hindus, sikhs, jains, buddhists,bahais in asia.

Believe me, there are numerous evidence for it, and all you have to do is to go through my posts and the links I have provided. I exhort all the readers to do this as well.

Put them in context then we can talk about it because you are snatching verses out of context..?..

I will.

The verses have nothing to do with what is in your mind.

Oh believe me, they do , and our prophets too point out to it , as is evident in my first post.

Neither us. .

Yeah sure, check this out.

1. (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."


Here you can see that the quran is exhorting the so-called believers to sadistically physically torture the unbeliever by chopping off his fingers. I find it hard to believe that a benevolent God will exhort one to chop the fingers of the so-called enemy, considering the fact that the 'enemy' itself is a child of God.And there are more such verses in the quran.

Our scriptures too exhort one to fight in the name of self-defence , but never to physically torture the enemy . Sadism is condemned by our prophets.

May i know your religion, if you don't mind?.

I am an indian . Hinduism , Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism, which emerged out of India are considered to be the dharmic religions . I was born a hindu. All the dharmik religions have equally influenced me, and are considered to be part of hindu or dharmic culture, so you can consider me to be a dharmik. Also I am highly interested in the Bahai religion. I was also highly influenced by secular humanists like Thomas Paine and Voltaire. So you can consider me to be a dharmic-bahai-secular humanist.

Why not. they should believe because they have been living with the Muslims since so long time a go. ?.

Yeah, with a lot of persecution and torture and humiliation and this is the reason why a lot of bahais and zoroastrians fled to India and other civilized countries.

i would love to know more about you dear niranjan. ?.

Trust me , you will get to know more about me.

Thank you also for starting this thread because it will help people to understand that terrorism have no religion, it's everywhere.

Yeah sure, islamic terrorism and its victims the bahais, the zoroastrians, the sikhs, the buddhists, the jains, the hindus, the assyrians and others in asia have never existed. Great logic.

 

[niranjan]

So you now teaming up all religions against Islam?

The good guys vs. the bad guys? LOL

Well, if you see the fact that almost every religion and every nation in the world has suffered from islamic terrorism, you can say it is quite logical when you have stated the above statement. Your words, not mine.

Anyway it is a fact that the whole world is fighting against islamic terrorism , which is a global phenomenon and a threat to humanity and civilization.

I'll prove to you that terrorism has no specific religion and it's everywhere in the following posts of mine "God willing",

Terrorism may be in other religions, but it is definetely not as pronounced or widespread as Islamic terrorism, which is a global phenomenon.

I have never heard of a sikh, buddhist, hindu, jain, bahai, zoroastrian, assyrian, taoist, shintoist suicide bombers killing innocent men, women and children or sikh, hindu, buddhist, jain , taoist, zoroastrian, assyrian, bahai harems where the women and little girls of the unbeliever are sexually abused.

and i hope you will work with me to stop these acts starting by enlighting our communities and stop generating hate against Muslims as we muslims will try to stop any act against others.

My posts are for that purpose only, as is evident in my fifth post.

If you just kept posting more and more about how bad are muslims then you will get absolutely nothing out of this.

I am only posting facts and I will continue to do so, in order to highlight the evils of islamic terrorism and fundamentalism ever since the 7th century A.D.

Also my posts are not about saying that muslims are evil, but about islamic fundamentalists and terrorists being evil.

We in India, which is an overwhelmingly hindu majority nation, had three muslim presidents, and our current president is also a very good muslim, ( who was voted into power by the hindu dharmik nationalist party BJP, and they are backing him for a second term as well.)

 

[niranjan]

Act Now to Stop Violence Against Muslims in Vadodara, Gujarat


The state of Gujarat, India is again experiencing violence directed at the minority Muslim community. The outbreak of violence was started off by the demolition of a 300 year old historical Muslim shrine.

The muslim shrine was demolished by municipal authorities , and I dont think there is anything wrong in this because numerous hindu shrines have also been demolished by them to make roads and government institutions. India is a secular state, not a theocratic state like pakistan and other islamic countries and we don't believe in giving special treatment to anyone , not even the hindus.

Also this was a long time back , and it has been effectively controlled by the police and government negotiators.

The fast deteriorating situation in Vadodara could very well lead to a repeat of the 2002 Gujarat massacres in which over 2,000 people were killed. .

And why don't you mention why the gujarat riots took place in the first place. It all started when muslim terrorists put petrol bombs in the train carrying hindu pilgrims, and 59 hindu women and children were killed.

What happened next was an instinctive public outrage against islamic fundamentalists by hindus, and hence islamic fundamentalists were the majority of those killed in the subsequent riots. I condemn this because we are against all violence, and these matters should be handled by the police and government officials.
Any way the armed forces came to gujarat and crushed all mob violence.

 

[wizanda]

"Get super consciousness" = born with it
Al-Islam means "I submit to the way of peace" so where in that is ‘their’ terror….in Muslim though is from ancient Sanskrit (i think it was) = those who ardently fight against faith….also it is my own belief that the Quran actually says this also in places (needs me studying Arabic a bit more to be sure of correct word endings and beginnings)
The wording to English has also been muddled, especially when any English Quran contains old English grammar (in brackets)??
All of that is very strange when the Quran states, that those who haven’t heard it in Arabic will never understand its true meaning….which is so very true as it is some of the most beautiful melodic poetry I have ever heard written about God and the way of peace, when sung in Arabic.

Anyways all them points being said I have no ideas how Mohammed correctly quoted some of the information about the Bible and Christ bits, yet missed all the main concepts and points left undone…i.e. referencing Pharisees as mosquito’s or gnats is not easier to understand; yet the concept of Kali/metal empire is shown in this, yet not ended?

So instead of pick fault and blame, lets show where and why its inner meaning was correct, that Mohammed was sent to fix it, after the Bible was canonised.
Yet it appears the Jewish ignored him, for not having done the research (also not ever having a canonized Bible, that was Rome = metal empire)….so question remains where did that information come from and how could Mohammed have related the spiritual effects of something, yet not actually grasped its full meaning of where the Bible is wrong?….so in my mind unless someone or something of a higher consciousness told him, really am very unsure why he knew any of it and if we say he studied, then why not finish it there and then, if all other evidence is supplied as criterion?
:angel2:

 

[niranjan]

LOL, you are trying to make it seem like all muslim countries are bad, and i really laughed when you first mentioned Iran then Persia because they both refer to the same country. ha ha ha. Gotchaaaaaa

I am not trying to make it sound that way. There is no need even for me to try.The proof is all there.

i really laughed when you first mentioned Iran then Persia because they both refer to the same country. ha ha ha. Gotchaaaaaa

Glad I made you laugh. However do you find this in Iran by islamic fundamentalists against the bahais funny.........


An Austrian officer, Captain von Goumoens, working in the court of the Shah at the time, gave the following account after signing his resignation:
"[I saw] ones who, with gouged-out eyes, must eat, on the scene of the deed, their own amputated ears; or whose teeth are torn out with inhuman violence by the hand of the executioner; or whose bare skulls are simply crushed by blows from a hammer..." "As for the end itself, they hang the scorched and perforated bodies by their hands and feet to a tree head downwards, and now every Persian may try his marksmanship to his heart’s content... When I read over again, what I have written, I am overcome by the thought that those who are with you in our dearly beloved Austria may doubt the full truth of the picture, and accuse me of exaggeration. Would to God that I had not lived to see it!... At present I never leave my house, in order not to meet with fresh scenes of horror... I will no longer maintain my connection with the scene of such crimes.”\
( Islamic persecution of the Bahais)


Do you find the persecution of the Zoroastrians in iran funny.........


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Zoroastrians


And do you find the abduction and humiliation of Bahai ladies by islamic terrorists and fundamentalists in Iran funny !

And if you say yes to that , I must say that you have a perverted sense of humour.

Tell me what are the first three religions mentioned in Wiki in this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_terrorism

If you don't believe me, then read the followings ...

Hindus terrorism:
http://www.nyu.edu/classes/keefer/joe/reuben.html

http://indianmuslims.in/is-it-hindu-terrorism/

http://www.shivamvij.com/2006/12/hindu-terrorism.html

Sikhs terrorism:
http://www.milnet.com/tgp/data/sikh.htm

http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/kashmir/1994/kashmir94-03.htm


buddhists terrorism:
http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/EN/links.htm

Buddhist, hindu, sikh so-called terrorism are not a global phenomenon like islamic terrorism, even though they are more numerous than muslims and are there in every country in substantial minorities. And in all countries , they are decent and law-abiding people , and the involvement of these people in crime is negligible or non-existent, which is a major contrast from the islamic community in many countries.

The U.K. itself is an example. The Sikh, Buddhist and Hindu communities are well-educated, and rich people, without any involvement in crime whatsoever, and whose achievements and merits have been extolled by sociological research. The richest man in Britain is a hindu.

Compare this to the islamic community in the U.K. who do badly in education, are poverty stricken , and have high crime rates and seem to be interested in religion to the exclusion of everything else.

Sikh and hindu communities are now making a serious effort to identify themselves as hindu or sikh communities and not as asians because that would mean they would be lumped with islamic terrorists and fundamentalists and perverts as well who are despised the world all over.

I challenge you to find any terrorist act by Muslims in their history exceot for the last few decads.!!!

What idiocy. I have clearly mentioned with sources the acts of islamic terrorism against the zoroastrians in the 7th century A.D.

I have also mentioned with sources the atrocities committed by islamic terrorists against the buddhists, sikhs, jains, hindus in Asia in the medieval ages.

Also the atrocities against the bahais happened in the 19 th century and are happening now as well.

Please go through them again.I also exhort all the readers to do so as well.

Whether you are ignorant about the history and civilization of Islam and Muslims

Trust me, I have studied them and i am not very ignorant in this subject.

Therefore, your accusations are false because you are closing your eyes on purpose from seeing what they did to the Muslims all over the world.

So are you saying that the terrorist activities against the bahais, zoroastrians, sikhs, jains,hindus, buddhists, assyrians in asia which are well-recorded are false!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are so naive if you really think muslims just came out of no where killing people for no reason.

I think naive and disingenuousity are the right terms for you.

Why the Muslims had no terrorist acts for 1400 years and we just suddnly heard about all this?

Yeah sure, say that to the zoroastrians, buddhists, sikhs, jains, hindus and bahais and assyrians in asia.

Muslims have been colonized, hijacked and attacked in Palestine, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, Sudan, Algeria, Tunsia, Morroco, Turkey, Iran, China, Russia, afghanistan, pakistan, india, bangladesh, thailand, phillipines, indonesia, malaysia , uzbekistan and no body care.

Wonder why the whole world seem to be having a problem with islamic fundamentalists, while there is no problems whatsoever with the bahais, buddhists, sikhs, hindus who are more numerous than muslims and are in every country as well.

Also I wonder how muslims can be colonized , hijacked and attacked in islamic states like egypt, sudan, algeria, morocco, iran, afghanistan, pakistan, bangladesh, indonesia, malaysia and uzbekistan. I really wonder!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All what you see is absolutely natural response to what is happening and happened to the Muslims all over the world. !!!

And I wonder what the bahais, zoroastrians, hindus, jains, buddhists, sikhs,assyrians in asia did to deserve this " natural response" .

You are just taking verses out of context and attach it to political problems. Wake up !!!

I have stated my stance with respect to these verses as shown by our prophet, and stand by it.
And I believe that either these verses should be eradicated and moderate islamic scholars should educate their community on the havoc and bloodshed they have created since the 7th century A.D. I believe this is the logical and pragmatic solution to islamic terrorism.

 

[mohamedhassan]

so your dating fundamentalism back to the Ummayid khilafa?

 

[Mujahid Mohammed]

Nice to see you preach tolerance as well.

He preaches and misinterprets and misrepresents well.

It is always nice to see people out there base all there opinions on absolutely no knowledge of Quran or the traditions of islam. this is what many amongst the ulama like to call broken record misconceptions. the same ole thing. They say Islam equals terror here are the verses. or they will ask does Islam promote terrorism. then immediately if you answer them without giving them all the facts they will go on their limited perception or scope of it. for if you do not know how the context was given or what it is how can you ever expect to understand it.

 

[mohamedhassan]

for if you do not know how the context was given or what it is how can you ever expect to understand it.

by their own interpretations and assumptions!

 

[Mujahid Mohammed]

by their own interpretations and assumptions!

that is why they are misguided.

 

[TashaN]

Dear niranjan, i think i'm asking this question for the third time and you are ignoring it. I'm interested to know your religion, will you tell me about it please?


Thanks in advance.

 

[niranjan]

. These organizations, although different in many respects, have all promoted the argument that because Hindus constitute the majority of Indians, India should be a Hindu state.

Again distorted facts. India is indeed a hindu nation because of its overwhelming hindu majority, not to mention the other dharmic religions buddhism, jainism and sikhism.

The RSS and the BJP hindu natioanalist supremo Advani, has clearly stated publicly that while India is a hindu nation because of its hindu majority , it is and will always remain a secular state . India is secular , because hinduism itself is secular. Can any of the islamic nations have the guts to state this , and make themselves secular ? Turkey is the only exception ,and even there minorities are harrassed.

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Nationwide violence against India's Muslim community in 1992 and 1993 and against India's Christian community since 1998, including in the state of Gujarat, have also stemmed from the violent activities and hate propaganda of these groups. Human Rights Watch and Indian human rights groups have long warned of the potential scale of death and destruction resulting from the sangh parivar's Hindu nationalist agenda.1 If the activities of these groups remain unchecked, violence may continue to engulf the state, and may spread to other parts of the country.

Yeah sure, the RSS is only against the fraudulent attempts of some christian missionaries to convert hindus, buddhists and sikhs into christianity. Also many christian non-prosleytising sects have also criticized these missionaries for their fraudulent tactics and for taking members of their own sects as well to their sects.

There is a 23 million strong christian community in India and they have no problems whatsoever. Syrian christians came to India, where they were given refuge and full freedom of worship by the hindus, and they are there in a substantial population in India. We have also had christian governors , chief ministers and ministers and in other important positions. The leader of the governing party ruling India is a christian lady.
There are also christians in the BJP and the RSS, due to their love for hindu and dharmik culture.

I also wish to state that hindu majority India had also three muslim presidents, and our current president , who is a muslim , was elected into power by the hindu nationalist party BJP . And our muslim president A.P.J.Abdul Kalam ,is the First Citizen in India, and the supreme commander of the armed forces of India, which is the third largest in the world.

Compare this to the islamic states. Have any christian or minority groups have come to power in these states. They would be killed if they dare suggest the idea.

Hell, I just read recently that a woman minister in pakistan was shot dead by islamic fundamentalists on the grounds that islam forbids woman rulers. Another muslim woman was given a fatwa for hugging a french paraglider in a humane gesture.

Compare this to the numerous woman leaders ,prime minister, chief ministers, governors( we boast of a woman muslim governor as well) , ministers and others in important positions in India and other civilized nations.

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General Ne Win started the Myanmar Tatmadaw's Crime against Humanity on Muslims

When General Ne Win swept to power on a wave of nationalism in 1962, the status of Muslims changed for the worse. Muslims were expelled from the army and were rapidly marginalized[3]. Myanmar has a Buddhist majority. Muslims are stereotyped in the society as "cattle killers" (referring to the cattle sacrifice festival of Eid Al Adha in Islam). The generic racist slur of "kala" (black) used against perceived "foreigners" has especially negative connotations when referring to Burmese Muslims. The more pious Muslims communities who segregate themselves from the Buddhist majority face greater difficulties than those who integrate more at the cost of observance to Islamic personal laws.[4]

I condemn what the general have done, and this has nothing to do with buddhism.However even then , this so-called persecution of muslims in Burma is nothing compared to the persecution of buddhists in Afghanistan, India, central asian nations, and bangladesh and thailand , where buddhists were tortured and killed and forcibly converted to Islam and their culture and heritage and monasteries and universities destroyed.

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The more pious Muslims communities who segregate themselves from the Buddhist majority face greater difficulties than those who integrate more at the cost of observance to Islamic personal laws.

And why should they segregate !!!!!!! In rome , do as the romans do.

And I know that in many islamic states the minorities have to conform to Islamic laws and rules, not secular rules.

Also I believe these ' more pious muslims' most probably have a problem with the fact that they cant practice polygamy or child marriage or divorce through uttering the magic word talaq, in buddhist burma. That certainly is a problem.

Hell, I know of rich arabs who marry underage girls in poor muslim countries in order to deflower them, and after a few days of paedophilia conveniently divorce them by saying the magic word talaq.

This is a common occurence in south India from where I come from, and not only arab perverts, but also rich indian muslims too do this. And after the divorce, many muslim girls commit suicide. This has been highlighted many times in south india, but islamic fundamentalists dont care, and considers it an intrusion in their private affairs. A film has been made in south India , highlighting this menace, which has claimed the lives of many little muslim girls, and the heroine who played the role in this film, got the best actress award in India.

And this film and various other documentaries are putting a lot of pressure on islamic fundamentalists who are keen to show that islam is a religion of peace, and is very kind to women and girls.