the religious Racial discrimination in Islam Teaching

[JoStories]

I think there's a lot to fix in every country.

Our problems are different, but I like the idea that some people are given housing so they are not pushed into a situation where they have nothing to lose. Where jail is a better option, because at least you have a roof and food and some basic medical aid.

Sure there are people who fall through the safety net and sometimes queue times to public cheap dentistry or surgery are unacceptably long if you don't have money to go to a private dentist. One time I had to wait for one month to get to a dentist when I didn't have enough money to go to a private one, but at least it's better than nothing.

The bureaucracy can be unforgiving if you quit your job for any reason, don't go to school or quit school(if you are under 25) or if you are unemployed don't accept a job offered to you.


Finland.

I agree that there is plenty that each country can do more appropriately. However, being able to see a dentist, albeit with long waits, is better than not seeing one at all. And btw, I can't tell you how refreshing and amazing it is that people of other countries can speak and write languages such as English, better than some of us can. It's another of the things we are failing at. I speak fluent French, some Spanish, a smattering of Hawaiian and even less of my native tongue (abnaki) but most kids here today can't even speak proper English. They're not required to read the classics, and so on, most can't add 2 + 2. Forget fractions or division. Another reason we're failing. And Finland, hike I have yet to visit, is lovely. I have a Swedish friend who hates it here because of the advantages we have been discussing.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Why? I know many Muslims who are amazing people. There is no shame in being a Muslim smart guy. I don't hold you responsible for the things the extremists of your faith are doing dear. That, IMO, is bigotry. It's like saying all blacks are criminals. Or all Jewish people are greedy. Or all native americans are drunks. (We're not!). It's ridiculous in the extreme.

Thank you very much, ma'am.

You're too kind

Dhimmi concept is used in multi-religious areas , which is where the ruling Muslim
This Alambda of the teachings of Islam in the discrimination between people on the DIN standard
We assume that Islam was able to assume power in Britain
It will be the standard to distinguish between people is a religion and not a home
Not all British converts to Islam will become a dhimmi , even if one was the son of the former kings of Britain

I told you before, that practice stopped ages ago. I don't think it will be ever practiced again.

Not that it was abusive anyways.

 

[Smart_Guy]

That's OK, I like Danish people.

Cool, I like them too. I just wanted to fix a mistake I made

 

[Marisa]

Thank you -
Your words respected but off-topic
I'm talking about segregation and discrimination between people according to DIN standard
This is the most important teachings of Islam
And the freedom of women , this subject last
I'm talking about human
And Islamic law can not be canceled in one word
But it can enlighten the people of the danger of Islam intellectually in future grandchildren
Islam is the religion of racism,

Notice in my first comment that I admitted I didn't understand what you said. Don't chastise me for being off topic, just tell me what it was that I didn't understand.

I freely admit I don't know what DIN standard means. But I don't accept discrimination against anyone for any reason, and tend to think that those who rely on religion to validate bigotry are just bigots who lack the courage to own their hatred of others and have to turn their god into a scapegoat for their ignorance. That this has lasted thousands of years in our species is greatly distressing to me.

I don't give a fig about Islamic law. Or christian law. Or Greek god's law. They are all equally mythology of varying degrees of literary entertainment to me.

Women are humans. I'm not sure most of the cultures on earth are aware of this fact, but women are, in fact, humans.

 

[JacobEzra.]

There is no evidence in history for the existence of Israel but after the born of their state during Moses's era, if you have an evidence
then give me a lesson in history.

God promised the land to Avraham.

And god in quran even says its the land of the Jews.

But as long as there are muslims like you who seem hellbent on denying the right to exist of Israel, then there is fuel for the denial of palistine

 

[FearGod]

God promised the land to Avraham.

And god in quran even says its the land of the Jews.

But as long as there are muslims like you who seem hellbent on denying the right to exist of Israel, then there is fuel for the denial of palistine

I did say that Israel existed at the era of Moses, they moved from Egypt and established their land, but that was thousands of years ago and that can't be an excuse for them to take Palestine by force the way they did in the 20th century.

 

[Augustus]

I told you before, that practice stopped ages ago. I don't think it will be ever practiced again.

Not that it was abusive anyways.

I live in a country where most people are Muslim and know that almost nobody wants to reintroduce the rules regarding Dhimmis.

From a factual historical perspective though (rather than any normative theological perspective), it was frequently abusive. Having 2nd class citizens in historical empires was certainly not unique to Islamic civilisations though.

Just as people shouldn't criticise present day Muslims for historical actions and beliefs that no longer relate to contemporary Islam, I don't think that it is correct to sugar coat what happened in the past (just a general comment, I'm not referring to you specifically). Some versions of Islamic history are highly idealised and have very little relation to what actually happened.

History is history, and historical morality is not contemporary morality though, we can't judge what happened then by the standards of today.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I live in a country where most people are Muslim and know that almost nobody wants to reintroduce the rules regarding Dhimmis.

From a factual historical perspective though (rather than any normative theological perspective), it was frequently abusive. Having 2nd class citizens in historical empires was certainly not unique to Islamic civilisations though.

Just as people shouldn't criticise present day Muslims for historical actions and beliefs that no longer relate to contemporary Islam, I don't think that it is correct to sugar coat what happened in the past (just a general comment, I'm not referring to you specifically). Some versions of Islamic history are highly idealised and have very little relation to what actually happened.

History is history, and historical morality is not contemporary morality though, we can't judge what happened then by the standards of today.

I'm actually against reintroducing it and I'm not really sugar coating it. I define the practice as it is put as regulations in the belief not as people see it or how it was practiced. As I said before, different times have different measures and people had to do what they had to do to protect their investment.

During the Spanish Inquisition, Muslims, and Jews mind you, were forced to either convert or leave, while the Islamic rule of Spain allowed Jews and Christians to prosper. That's what I mean by protecting investment, and looks like this allowance is what led to the Spanish Inquisition.

Now it is different and such laws are not needed anymore. Times are different.

But I don't really disagree with you. People are people and they do things and religion is a delicate matter that can never be practiced perfectly without controversies. I believe every single law can't too and can be seen sugar coated, even the secular of them, but that's another subject.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Anything but Muslims will be fine with me.

And with your statement that anything would be fine with you except Muslims, surely we can conclude that you would be fine with Nazis, fascists, and totalitarianists, but not Muslims? Do you see how much irony there is in your post?

 

[Debater Slayer]

Discrimination between people is a policy unfair
Discrimination contradicts the Justice and Equality
And any religion which proclaims this policy is contrary to the religion of human rights as we know at the present time
According to the teachings of Islam and used racial discrimination and religious
And it is one of the most important teachings of Islam until the present era
Muslims use the word ( edematous )(الذمي) and translated by
Into English or other languages
And Mbda or the concept of disclosure and dhimmi is racial discrimination and religious
Eastern Christians have suffered from this unjust and racist Education
Because after the Islamic occupation in Iraq, Egypt , Syria, Lebanon
It became aboriginal citizens of dhimmis
This means that they have become second-class citizens
Because the imposition of tribute on the Jews and the Christians
It is one of the harshest racial discrimination and religious in Muslim countries
I present to you some of the positions of the meaning of this word and this education of the books of Muslims
May not be exported dhimmis in the councils, not to do them, not Bdathm peace, the surrendered shall respond to them by saying and you.
And they may not be congratulating them on their festivals, and are prevented from building churches, sale and temples, and show vintage and pig and alarm, and speak out Bektabhm, and Ramp on Muslim architecture, and so on.
And it improves honor them and treat them by word and deed please their Islam.
God said: {Allah does not forbid those who have neither faith nor drive you out of your homes, dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loves those (8)} [Mumtahinah / 8].
Fourth Ahl : They are those who are content to live and stability with us in a Muslim country , and they with Sharia and Islam ruler and lord , and then condemned for his Balzlh and children , can not be achieved them so as Ibn values and other scholars in the \ " provisions of the Ahl \" , but the pay full tribute by the hand , and liked the sovereignty of the ruling Muslim state , nor
The big question is if the Muslims were able to rule Britain
The natives become of dhimmis
????
Do you want Dear Westerners that you become slaves in your country ??
Survey your permission this racist education and identified the good of Islam

Westerners were slaves in their countries when Christianity ruled them for hundreds of years. In fact, Christianity ruled the Western world during the Dark Ages, and I think we can all agree that those weren't exactly prosperous times for Western people.

 

[Augustus]

Westerners were slaves in their countries when Christianity ruled them for hundreds of years. In fact, Christianity ruled the Western world during the Dark Ages, and I think we can all agree that those weren't exactly prosperous times for Western people.

I think the hypothesis that Christianity caused economic and societal backwardness during this period is not really viable. More the fragmentation of the former (Western) Roman empire and the benefits that resulted from being part of such an empire, becoming cut off from important global trade routes, wars to fill the power vacuum, etc.

Christianity is intrinsically linked to the formation of the 'Western' world and had positive and negative effects at various times. The view of Christianity purely as a malign regressive force is facile and a bit naive. It is more of an ideological desire of anti-theists based on a superficial reading of history that takes this view as pretty much self-evident without much need of further analysis and investigation.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

There is no evidence in history for the existence of Israel but after the born of their state during Moses's era, if you have an evidence
then give me a lesson in history.

The State of Israel and the entity was present in Palestine
The Qur'an itself refers to it
How Daoud became king ?? any country was ruled ??
Who is the Goliath ???
How Solomon became king ??
And his armies arrived at the Sheba in Yemen as the Quran says ???
This myth Koranic ???
Is the meaning of verse that says you know ( and Stalon in the ground twice )
Historically, Israel was a state within Palestine
Chaldeans , Assyrians and destroyed that country and the Jews were taken as slaves to the sons of the land of Babylon and Assyria
This well-known biblical history
I Chaldean and Assyrian history and I know well
That is why I tell you yes , Israel has historically been found
And the return of Jews to the land of their ancestors is a legitimate right

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Israel took the land by force, they came from their original lands in Africa, Europe & Asia claiming that they have the right to take Palestine because their grandfathers lived once in the land.

Your comparison that Muslims invaded some lands before 1400 years ago is a stupid one.

Yes, the Jews returned to the land of their ancestors
This is a legitimate right
That land was shared between the Jewish and Palestinian peoples
It is the right of peoples to live in peace in Palestine
Jews do not want to destroy or kill Palestinians
They want only peace
But when a Palestinian wants to destroy Israel , it means that Israel is defending itself

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Why? I know many Muslims who are amazing people. There is no shame in being a Muslim smart guy. I don't hold you responsible for the things the extremists of your faith are doing dear. That, IMO, is bigotry. It's like saying all blacks are criminals. Or all Jewish people are greedy. Or all native americans are drunks. (We're not!). It's ridiculous in the extreme.

The idea and the ideology of Islam and we do not discuss the social behavior of Muslims in other countries
I'm talking about an Islamic education
And Islamic law
This is the law of God
He says he recognized the word of God
Does God discriminate between people based on religion ??
I wish I could stay inside Thread

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Westerners were slaves in their countries when Christianity ruled them for hundreds of years. In fact, Christianity ruled the Western world during the Dark Ages, and I think we can all agree that those weren't exactly prosperous times for Western people.

Christian helped the Europeans to change their behaviors and patterns of brutality and barbarism traditions
Yes was the Romanian empire Attiymh power in the world but they do not know mercy empire
It was very harsh empire
But Christianity was planted in Europe and the teachings of compassion and tolerance
The Europeans relied on
Europeans and ethics of tolerance , compassion and freedom is from the teachings of Christianity

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I think the hypothesis that Christianity caused economic and societal backwardness during this period is not really viable. More the fragmentation of the former (Western) Roman empire and the benefits that resulted from being part of such an empire, becoming cut off from important global trade routes, wars to fill the power vacuum, etc.

Christianity is intrinsically linked to the formation of the 'Western' world and had positive and negative effects at various times. The view of Christianity purely as a malign regressive force is facile and a bit naive. It is more of an ideological desire of anti-theists based on a superficial reading of history that takes this view as pretty much self-evident without much need of further analysis and investigation.

Thank you
When we know the brutal Romanian in Romania inside stadiums
Rinks bloody conflict
And when we know that Nero was enamored of his mother
Will know how Christianity changed these behaviors
That Christianity developed in Europe, the highest form of tolerance , compassion and love
It must be distinguished from the mistakes of the Church and the Christian clergy and among indigenous Christian teac

 

[FearGod]

The State of Israel and the entity was present in Palestine
The Qur'an itself refers to it
How Daoud became king ?? any country was ruled ??
Who is the Goliath ???
How Solomon became king ??
And his armies arrived at the Sheba in Yemen as the Quran says ???
This myth Koranic ???
Is the meaning of verse that says you know ( and Stalon in the ground twice )
Historically, Israel was a state within Palestine
Chaldeans , Assyrians and destroyed that country and the Jews were taken as slaves to the sons of the land of Babylon and Assyria
This well-known biblical history
I Chaldean and Assyrian history and I know well
That is why I tell you yes , Israel has historically been found
And the return of Jews to the land of their ancestors is a legitimate right

Jews were given a land during Moses era and they lost it when the Romans invaded the region then the Muslims took it over.

Do you think the Zionists have a legitimate right on Palestine just because Jews lived in it 3000 years ago ?

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Not really. Islam has its extremists but it is the few who destroy what the true adherents of this faith espouse. I agree that some of the teachings are not what I would be able to live with, such as the treatment of women. However, as one lovely Egyptian woman told me, she loved being able to wear her face covered and the incredibly beautiful makeup, etc. she wanted to be at home with her children, and have her husband treat her so well, and trust me, he did. Who am I to say that is wrong?

I was in Iraq, after the fall of Saddam Hussein became the wearing of headscarves legally enforceable
And my daughter was studying at the University of Mosul
And they asked her to wear the veil compulsory and because you prevented her from completing her university studies and the fear for her life
Alemraep irrational in Islam and religion
I hope that our continent between Muslim and between European Alemraep
Because the big difference
European Alemraep live a full human freedom
Muslim and Alemraep live within the Islamic slavery prison

 

[FearGod]

Yes, the Jews returned to the land of their ancestors
This is a legitimate right
That land was shared between the Jewish and Palestinian peoples
It is the right of peoples to live in peace in Palestine
Jews do not want to destroy or kill Palestinians
They want only peace
But when a Palestinian wants to destroy Israel , it means that Israel is defending itself

The Zionists took it by force and not by peace.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Jews were given a land during Moses era and they lost it when the Romans invaded the region then the Muslims took it over.

Do you think the Zionists have a legitimate right on Palestine just because Jews lived in it 3000 years ago ?

Moses did not see Palestine
Moses died on Mount Horeb
The leadership of the Jewish people was the leader Joshua son of Nun
The Jews were in Palestine during the Roman rule and also after the Roman occupation
They were in Palestine until the Muslim occupation
And dispersed in the Islamic world because of persecution for them
The Islamic persecution of the Jews in Medina, killing and slaughter of Jews during arguments invalid
It was the Jews were in Palestine to the period of Ottoman rule
With the end of Ottoman rule, the Jews returned to their homeland
For this reason remains for the Jews and the Israelis really in their land
Palestine, just like with the Palestinians only
And to eliminate the idea that Islam is the destruction of Israel