The truth behind Ron Wyatt's archaeological discoveries.

[sooda]

"People push the evidence" is your response to the
FACT that the "city" of Ron Wyatt's claim is
nothing but ordinary badlands?????

That like all his claims, it is a shabby fraud?

Wyatt's usual excuse was that his film was bad.

 

[PruePhillip]

"People push the evidence" is your response to the
FACT that the "city" of Ron Wyatt's claim is
nothing but ordinary badlands?????

That like all his claims, it is a shabby fraud?

I know nothing of this Ron Wyatt. I wouldn't even read/watch/listen to him.

 

[Audie]

I know nothing of this Ron Wyatt. I wouldn't even read/watch/listen to him.

Rardonez moi, was thinking of the opster.
He is a droll chap, you really should look him up.
What, tho was your "push the evidence" remark?

 

[Audie]

Wyatt's usual excuse was that his film was bad.

He aimed the camera at Sodom, and the
film recorded badlands?

 

[sooda]

He aimed the camera at Sodom, and the
film recorded badlands?

I was thinking in terms of his claims about finding Jesus blood and the Ark of the covenant.

 

[Audie]

You should start to do some serious research into the history of Israel. Israel would not exist today had the traditions of the Jews not been upheld.

The Israelites didn't just appear in Israel, as if out of thin air; many Jews have returned to the land only recently, but their existence and their history is continuous and unbroken. This requires an explanation, and the Bible provides the best evidence available of their origins and development.

To my knowledge, the historical accounts of Israel's history, provided in the Bible, have never been disproved.

May we recommend that you do some research into what
are badlands, and what is a city?
badlands drumheller - Google Search

 

[Audie]

I was thinking in terms of his claims about finding Jesus blood and the Ark of the covenant.

Really remarkable the things he got people to believe.

It says so much about the qualities of the "believer".

 

[sooda]

Really remarkable the things he got people to believe.

It says so much about the qualities of the "believer".

Not only did they believe Wyatt, they gave him money to finance his scams.

 

[Audie]

Not only did they believe Wyatt, they gave him money to finance his scams.

What mildly outdoorsy con man would not like to be paid
to go about as he did on someone else's dime?

 

[sooda]

What mildly outdoorsy con man would not like to be paid
to go about as he did on someone else's dime?

Bingo.. It was a great gig for Wyatt.

 

[Spartan]

Sorry, Goshen didn't exist in the time of Abraham. but more importantly the Jews were never slaves in Egypt. The Exodus is a myth.. and Jewish scholars have known so for 50 years.

Nope, the Bible is correct and you're mistaken.

 

[sooda]

Nope, the Bible is correct and you're mistaken.

You think 3 million people and their herds could survive in a landscape with no water and no pasture? LOLOL

Even NOW Sinai has a population of 800,000.

Try thinking.

 

[cataway]

I was thinking in terms of his claims about finding Jesus blood and the Ark of the covenant.

yeah that was out there . still scratching my head on that one

 

[SkepticThinker]

But, as I said before, he found a location for Mount Horeb in Saudi Arabia that matches the biblical evidence far better than the traditional site in Egypt. So, to suggest that all his finds were without evidence is unfair. He studied the scriptures, and used various documentary sources and archaeological finds to build his case.

Maybe, rather than dismissing someone on the basis of wiki, you should actually look at his claims and the evidence he used to support these claims.

In the meantime, I am quite sure there are many viewers of this thread who do believe that Noah existed, that his descendants were real; and that Moses existed, and that the Ark is still hidden somewhere in Jerusalem!

Unless and until he produces an actual ark, what evidence are we actually talking about?

 

[columbus]

Well, Goshen was alive and well in the time of Moses according to the Bible. And Jerusalem was not the only area the Israelites settled in.



Strawman. By just referring to his title doesn't mean he didn't know the actual name of the Pharoah whose house he grew up in.

Or, more plausibly, the people who created the legends didn't know the history.
Tom

 

[columbus]

I was thinking in terms of his claims about finding Jesus blood and the Ark of the covenant.

Wasn't that in an undiscovered cave under Jerusalem?

Well, Jerusalem exists. So the cave exists?
Tom

 

[Redemptionsong]

If someone claims to have found the Ark, what test will authenticate the find? What will distinguish the Ark from some very old wooden chest, or box for scrolls, or whatever?

Will it still work to allow one-on-one communication with Yahweh?

If it doesn't, will that prove it's not the Ark?

You might like to direct those questions to the Jews who are intent on seeing the Temple rebuilt and rededicated!

Bible descriptions of the Holy Ark do give a pretty good impression of its size, material composition and contents. What is harder to ascertain is the power associated with the Ark. Let's not forget that the Philistines captured the Ark from the Israelites during times of conflict. It was not long before they wanted rid of it again, having found it to be a curse.

In the hands of its chosen guardians, the Ark was seen as a blessing, and visible evidence of God's presence amongst his people.

 

[sooda]

You might like to direct those questions to the Jews who are intent on seeing the Temple rebuilt and rededicated!

Bible descriptions of the Holy Ark do give a pretty good impression of its size, material composition and contents. What is harder to ascertain is the power associated with the Ark. Let's not forget that the Philistines captured the Ark from the Israelites during times of conflict. It was not long before they wanted rid of it again, having found it to be a curse.

In the hands of its chosen guardians, the Ark was seen as a blessing, and visible evidence of God's presence amongst his people.

Revelation 21:22-27 King James Version (KJV) 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

 

[Redemptionsong]

Wyatt was NEVER in Saudi Arabia.

From what I remember, because he was unable to acquire a visa, he entered Saudi Arabia illegally and was later arrested.

Ron Wyatt believed that the crossing of the Red Sea by Moses and the Israelites occurred at a place [today] called Nuweiba, on the eastern shores of the Sinai. Opposite, in Saudi Arabia, he claims to have come across a pillar erected by King Solomon, marking the place where the Red Sea crossing occurred.

He also visited Jebel el Lawz and the surrounding plains.

There are a number of persuasive reasons for believing he had stumbled upon the true location of Mount Horeb.

1. It was outside the Egyptian sphere of influence. Egyptian mines existed in the Sinai, and was seen as part of their border territory.
2. Midian was beyond the Gulf of Aqaba, a safe distance from Egypt, and a land with huge expanses of sparsely populated desert.
3. Midian was a land that Moses knew well. He had escaped there after committing murder in Egypt. He married and lived in Midian with his father-in-law, Jethro.
4. It was on Mount Horeb, in Midian, that Moses encountered God in the burning bush. This same site was visited by Elijah, and by Paul. This means that Mount Horeb was known to be in Arabia in the Common Era.
5. The Qur'an records the wars that Muhammad fought against Jewish tribes around Medina. Why had Jewish tribes chosen to live in this area of Arabia? Was it because of the biblical traditions that associated this region with Mount Sinai (Horeb)?
6. In the accounts given by Josephus of the Exodus, he describes the land at the place where the Hebrews became trapped. This description has similarities to the terrain found around Nuweiba, whereas nothing similar can be found on the Egyptian Red Sea shore line.
7. The natural route out of Goshen would have been along the highway that linked the Delta in Egypt with the town of Aqaba. It is very likely that the start of the exodus would have been along this route, before cutting south into the Sinai.

 

[Redemptionsong]

Revelation 21:22-27 King James Version (KJV) 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

If you look to Revelation 21:1, you will see that these verses are referring to a new heaven and a new earth!