The truth behind Ron Wyatt's archaeological discoveries.

[sooda]

It's not like moral hedonism today, sooda, where people are fornicating, committing adultery, etc. Plus they were on their feet all day on a 40 year wandering. I can just hear the women now, "You want to do what"? LOL.

They married young and had big families.

 

[sooda]

What does one need to believe to be a Christian?

That Israel had millions of soldiers for one thing.

 

[Spartan]

You do make me laugh.
Such a handy way to completely discredit yourself.

If you had made even the most cursory effort
to research your flood, you'd know it never
happened.
So much for you a researcher.

Yawn. Flush.

 

[Spartan]

They married young and had big families.

They believed in God and rejected the stiff-necked naysayers.

 

[sooda]

They believed in God and rejected the stiff-necked naysayers.

Average life expectancy was under 50 years....

 

[Audie]

Average life expectancy was under 50 years....

Oh now you are just being a nattering nabob of negativism.

In the event, as our hero is reduced to name calling
and hand waving, I think there's nowhere for this to go but to
more and worse of the same.

As for me, its already tomorrow here and
this is not worth a minute's sleep.

 

[sooda]

Oh now you are just being a nattering nabob of negativism.

In the event, as our hero of the OP is reduced to name calling
and hand waving, I think there's nowhere for this to go but to
more and worse of the same.

As for me, its already tomorrow here and
this is not worth a minute's sleep.

Average life expectancy in the Middle East in 1930 was under 50.

Meanwhile, Psalms 90:10.

 

[Redemptionsong]

I did answer the question.
If someone considers themselves a Christian so do I.

I kinda consider myself one. I don't believe in a god image like the standard Abrahamic one. But there's no objective standard for the term. And lots of people don't think I am one.



I don't know anybody like that. There's tons of stuff in the Bible I believe is literally true. And tons more that's figuratively true.

I don't believe that everything in the Bible is literally true. Nobody who really knows it does either. What people who say that they believe everything in the Bible is literally true always mean is that they believe that their personal interpretation of the Bible is literally true.
Tom

God claims His Word as his own. It follows that only God has the true interpretation. I believe that it is only as we humble ourselves in faith to his wisdom that we gain an understanding. If the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth [John 16:13], then surely, to understand fully, we need to be born again of God's Spirit first.

 

[Redemptionsong]

A Christian could and should look for the message in the myth.

Do you believe that Jesus was crucified? Do you believe that he rose from the dead?

 

[sooda]

Do you believe that Jesus was crucified? Do you believe that he rose from the dead?

Yes I do..

Ron Wyatt also lied about finding chariot wheels on the bottom of the Red Sea.

 

[columbus]

God claims His Word as his own.

My experience is utterly different.

God never claims anything. Humans make all kinds of claims, including which string of translated words are God's. But they vehemently disagree upon which words, from which Scripture, and what they mean, and which one's are most important.

Compelling evidence(proof) that God doesn't care what anybody believes or does.
Tom

 

[Audie]

God claims His Word as his own. It follows that only God has the true interpretation. I believe that it is only as we humble ourselves in faith to his wisdom that we gain an understanding. If the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth [John 16:13], then surely, to understand fully, we need to be born again of God's Spirit first.

That could be but R Wyatt is a complete fraud.

 

[Spartan]

Average life expectancy was under 50 years....

That's another chink in your armor. Fewer years to multiply.

 

[sooda]

That's another chink in your armor. Fewer years to multiply.

What are you talking about?

 

[Shad]

Years ago, the biblical archaeologist and adventurer, Ron Wyatt, came to Britain to give talks about his discoveries. He was giving talks in the county of Oxfordshire, England. I invited him to speak at the school where I taught, and he kindly spoke to our students about the things he had discovered during his archaeological adventures in the Near/Middle East. He was involved in the search for such things as Noah's ark, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, the resting place of the Holy Ark, and the site of Mount Horeb (Sinai).

I have my doubts about the sites he associated with Sodom and Gomorrah, because he located these cities at the southern end of the Dead Sea, whereas I believe, from the scriptural evidence, that they were at the northern end; but, apart from that, I have a lot of sympathy with his detective work and honesty before God.

To me, the most striking of his discoveries were the site of Mount Horeb, in Arabia, and the place that he associated with the Holy Ark, Jeremiah's Grotto.

Some of Ron's discoveries have since received a lot of attention, especially the site he associated with the grounding of Noah's ark in eastern Turkey. Mount Horeb has also received a lot of attention, not least from Saudi authorities.

What, I wonder, is the situation with Jermiah's Grotto and the Holy Ark? Do Israeli authorities know about Ron Wyatt's claims to have found its hiding place? Maybe you know more than I do and can tell me more?

Nothing this guy has claimed he found has been vetted by an expert nor does he turn over his findings to any authority for review. The guy is a con-artist or delusional due to his religion, nothing more.

*By authority I mean such as the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt. If I remember correctly it is on record about Wyatts not turning anything over for review nor as required by law. Which means anything he has by law makes him a looter. Neither Egypt nor Israel let someone with zero credentials just walk out of the nation with a real artifact.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What does one need to believe to be a Christian?

Merely following the teachings of Jesus is enough for many. That is better than calling God a liar in my opinion.

 

[Redemptionsong]

That could be but R Wyatt is a complete fraud.

We'll see whether he is proven to be a fraud. In time, as more reputable methods of archeology are applied to the sites that he investigated, we'll no doubt hear more. He believed that the Ark of the covenant was to be found at Jeremiah's grotto in Jerusalem. He believed that Mount Horeb was in Arabia. He believed that Noah's ark grounded in the Mountains of Ararat in eastern Turkey.
I continue to believe, as he did, that the Bible provides a trustworthy historical record of the history of Israel, as well as a spiritual truth for all mankind.

 

[Audie]

We'll see whether he is proven to be a fraud. In time, as more reputable methods of archeology are applied to the sites that he investigated, we'll no doubt hear more. He believed that the Ark of the covenant was to be found at Jeremiah's grotto in Jerusalem. He believed that Mount Horeb was in Arabia. He believed that Noah's ark grounded in the Mountains of Ararat in eastern Turkey.
I continue to believe, as he did, that the Bible provides a trustworthy historical record of the history of Israel, as well as a spiritual truth for all mankind.

That you would believe in the wyatt guy says all we need
to know about your quality of though as applied to
bible-beliefs.

 

[Redemptionsong]

Nothing this guy has claimed he found has been vetted by an expert nor does he turn over his findings to any authority for review. The guy is a con-artist or delusional due to his religion, nothing more.

*By authority I mean such as the Supreme Council of Antiquities in Egypt. If I remember correctly it is on record about Wyatts not turning anything over for review nor as required by law. Which means anything he has by law makes him a looter. Neither Egypt nor Israel let someone with zero credentials just walk out of the nation with a real artifact.

Ron Wyatt's interest was in the Bible, and his search for archaeological evidence was based on the stories and accounts found in the Bible. What evidence do you have that he stole artifacts or intentionally deceived others?
His desire, as far as I can see, was simply to uncover evidence that supported the Bible accounts.
For example, in Egypt, he was interested in discovering whether there was archaeological evidence of large ancient Egyptian grain silos. Joseph was placed in charge of feeding the Egyptian population during the seven years of famine [Genesis 41:36].
You might like to check out Imhotep and Saqqara.

 

[Redemptionsong]

That you would believe in the wyatt guy says all we need
to know about your quality of though as applied to
bible-beliefs.

Ron Wyatt does no more than believe the Bible as God's Word.

But my quality of thought is clearly very poor. What did you manage to find out when you studied the Bible?