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The truth can set you free...

XAAX

Active Member
Lets try and wake the world up to reality.

Hmmm…lets see. I guess we should start from the beginning. That’s really the only way to get the big picture. The creation of religion first started when early humans were unable to understand their suroundings. Can’t explain it, must be god. The sun makes things grow and gives us warmth, must be good. When the sun goes away the moon comes out and things are dark and scary, must be evil. Basic as it sounds, this is what is wrong with the world today. You can trace almost all religions of today back to that basic premise. We have evolved so much in the ways of technology and science yet we still hold on to ancient ideologies. The old ways of just preventing people from thinking for themselves is slowly slipping through the grasp of religions.

I would say that this is a good thing. The main problem with this is that most people are still simple in the fact that they need something to tell them what they can and cannot do. I am speaking spiritually as well ethically. We need to come together to let others know that there isn’t this black/white view of the universe. It baffles my mind when I talk to christians on the internet (for example). I have asked numerous “hard core chrisians” if they follow their religion blindly. The typical response is that they do not and that they are very educated about their religion. Then listen to them tell you that you are a liar and deceiving them when you tell them the bible they are following was created by a pagan. It is really very sad to me.

I understand that people generally believe what they have been born into. This is a strong environmental factor in any culture. That being the case, I feel that at a point, everyone reaches a place in their life where they have to evaluate what is truth and what is not. There is no excuse not to other than the choice of remaining blind and ignorant to universal truths.

People tell me that it is difficult for others to break away after a lifetime of following a religious faith. I do not believe that to be true. The fact that I am an ex-baptist preacher and youth leader should speak volumes. You want to tell me about making the difficult decisions. Been there, done that. The thing that shocks others when I tell them that is when I say that I thank God everyday for the strength to think for myself and follow the road less traveled. They are trapped in their little box confused as the fact that I am referring to something alien to them. If you’re not a Christian now then you must follow the only other God, Satan. It is so hard to reach someone who is trapped in that mind frame.

Believe it or not for those of you who are in the dark and afraid of what religions try to force you to believe through threats of fire and damnation, there is hope. Once you have broken free and truly open your heart and mind. You will know a God that is the true God. The God I am referring to is the energy that binds all living things in the universe, including you. You can feel a peace of heart and connection to God that no church, mosque, temple, etc could ever give you.

Think of God as a wheel. With all the religions, that man has created for whatever reason(and there are many: Greed, Control, Unification, Etc), being spokes in that wheel. All leading from the same beginning to the same end. All limited to their “spokes” view of the wheel. How much of God do they really know? Not much unfortunately.

Maybe one day there will be some kind of anti-religious movement that teaches people how to be one with God and all living things. Then we might truly unite as a race, love our fellow man/woman and be one with God.
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Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Welcome to the Forums, Preach!

I haven't read your post yet because it's all one big block of text. You might want to use the enter key to break it up into paragraphs next time. Just a thought.
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
hmmm. sounds like someone just read Totem and Taboo...

yipeeeee

The cocaine induced imaginations of Freud. Thanks for enlightening me. I was sooo deluded. I don't want to be religious, it is just all of this collective shame I feel from my monkey ancestors killing their fathers so they could have their mothers. Now I can't .... help myself...... must........have ..........religion!

thanks for setting us all free. really. I was such an idiot.
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
Sunstone said:
Welcome to the Forums, Preach!

I haven't read your post yet because it's all one big block of text. You might want to use the enter key to break it up into paragraphs next time. Just a thought.

I must admit. I could only wade down about 4 lines or so before I quit reading.
 

XAAX

Active Member
sorry guys...didn't mean to go on such a tangent. Just tired and anoyed with simple minded humans....every now and then you have to realease a little steam...and yes from the birth of man came the inevitable afterbirth...religion...:D
 

Comprehend

Res Ipsa Loquitur
PREACH THE NETT said:
sorry guys...didn't mean to go on such a tangent. Just tired and anoyed with simple minded humans....every now and then you have to realease a little steam...and yes from the birth of man came the inevitable afterbirth...religion...:D

A man once said, many people leave religion but not many can leave it alone. Why is that?

Who are the simple minded humans you are referring to? Us who still partake of the opiate of the masses? Us poor feeble brained morons who need the psychological crutch of religion?

2 Ne 9:28
28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
PREACH THE NETT said:
sorry guys...didn't mean to go on such a tangent. Just tired and anoyed with simple minded humans....every now and then you have to realease a little steam...and yes from the birth of man came the inevitable afterbirth...religion...:D

It was an interesting tangent. I finally managed to read it. You should write more about it (while remembering to break it into easy to read paragraphs). You've had an interesting journey!
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Preach The Net said:
...I thank God everyday for the strength to think for myself and follow the road less traveled.

You'll probably find a lot of people here who feel exactly the same way you do about that. This is pretty much an eclectic forum.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I did read all of the post (it was difficult, the way it was formatted [you might also try a larger font...]) and I found it to be both a little disturbing and a little refreshing.

It came off as a little knee-jerk reactive; do you have an axe to grind? However, I believe your world view is going in the right direction. We all tend to "put God (and ourselves) in a box." I'm preaching a sermon this Sunday about the wide-open possibilities that God-With-Us provides. I'm glad you've broken "out of the mold," but you should keep in mind that not all Christians are small-minded and submissive. Your post comes off a little "I'm-angry-at-the-world." Give us a little credit...:)
 

XAAX

Active Member
comprehend said:
A man once said, many people leave religion but not many can leave it alone. Why is that?

Who are the simple minded humans you are referring to? Us who still partake of the opiate of the masses? Us poor feeble brained morons who need the psychological crutch of religion?

2 Ne 9:28
28 O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.

Of all the people to respond to that post...it has to be a mormon. That about sums it up. Sorry, no offense to your religion. Most people need things to tell them how to think, feel, live, etc... But come on.
Ok since you brought it up. I have a couple of basic questions for you.

First of all, Did you read the entire post? If you didn't you dont have a clue what my simple minded comment was even about if you didn't read the entire post.

Second of all, Do you beleive the crap the LDS is shoveling or are you a don't ask questions kind of follower? The reason i ask is because you follow a religion that is based heavily on the belief of some guy who claimed a number of things that he one could not prove. No one ever saw anything of the supposed stones or book that he found. I was a theology major and have studied most religions extensively. The guy was a second rate con artist who wanted to make a name for himself. If you don’t believe me, ask some branch davidians. Today david coresh is a moron. Give it a while. I guarantee you they will make an addition to Christianity making him the next prophet just like Smith.

Like I said before, no offense to your religion. But come on…If you have to be blinded by a faith, pick one that’s not completely ridiculous…if there is such a thing anymore.:no:
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
PREACH THE NETT said:
Like I said before, no offense to your religion. But come on…If you have to be blinded by a faith, pick one that’s not completely ridiculous…if there is such a thing anymore.:no:
How can that not be offensive?

Your OP mentions that you used to be a baptist preacher, and that you have a theology major. So, you have experience of one faith and theory on many others (i assume your degree is not entirely Christian theology?).

If there were no need for religions to be expressed in the organised ways they are, then they wouldn't exist in that way.
As a gnostic/mystic i agree with you that God can be directly experienced, and that a literal interpretation of books such as the bible combined with some somewhat crazy (mostly protestant sects for some reason) concepts and theologies can lead people into a bad place spritually where they are full of hate and righteousness instead of love and wisdom.

However, with following an open path to God we lose discipline, or at least it is far more difficult to maintain a disciplined religious practice. Some people need the ridigity we find in, for example, Muslim prayers and daily structure in order for them to maintain a religious aspect to their lives.

You seem to have some hostility toward organised religion rather than being anti-theist, i personally think it would be far more interesting to explore that hostility and its origin than to vent it at the religious people here and allow it to breed.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
PREACH THE NETT said:
Sorry, no offense to your religion.
Yeah, right. I love how people think they can start their offensive post by saying "no offense, but..." - and that makes it all right. At the very least, be honest. If you intend to offend, which you obviously do, don't say that you don't.
Second of all, Do you beleive the crap the LDS is shoveling or are you a don't ask questions kind of follower? The reason i ask is because you follow a religion that is based heavily on the belief of some guy who claimed a number of things that he one could not prove. No one ever saw anything of the supposed stones or book that he found.

Actually, 11 people saw the plates, and many more saw the stones
I was a theology major and have studied most religions extensively. The guy was a second rate con artist who wanted to make a name for himself.
Since he has "conned" many million people for the last 150 years, I'd say that he at least deserves a first rate status
 

XAAX

Active Member
Nice to see that other people get it too...watch out though, people don't take to kindly to free thinkers...Scares the herd.. lol :areyoucra
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
PREACH THE NETT said:
Nice to see that other people get it too...watch out though, people don't take to kindly to free thinkers...Scares the herd.. lol :areyoucra
There's no herd here.
 
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