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The Upcoming UK General Election

Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
There is a strong chance that the Tories will win fewer than100 seats. Reform are likely to win 3 to 10 at the most. Although they will get many votes they have very few targeted seats. And almost no organisation as they have no membership or structure just disparate supporters.

However it is unhealthy for any party to hold the majority that Labour is likely to win.

Farage is likely to win his seat but Sunak could possibly lose his, which would save him from having to face the remaining Tory parliamentarians.
 
RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Secret Chief said:
Yes indeed. Thankfully we seem to be dodging that. O lord am I going to be grateful for FPTP?
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Dunno really. I’ve always felt some form of PR is intrinsically more democratic than our system, but I guess none is perfect.

Boris Johnson’s clown-car government secured a huge majority with just over 40% of the popular vote, and pushed the most extreme form of Brexit through a powerless Parliament, so that’s not a great advert for FPTP. And can you imagine a Tory/Reform hybrid of the future, with a significant commons majority? That’s a scary prospect.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Just had the Reform Party leaflet through my door. Does not even mention or give the name of my local candidate.
It has four points.
Stop the boats
Make work pay
Zero waiting lists
And freeze immigration.

Says nothing about how any of this might be achieved.nothing said at all.

They have mostly been on every parties target list for as long as I can remember. I doubt it can even be done.

You can not stop the boats leaving France, what are we supposed to do, sink them?
Make work pay? How? Force employers pay more? What about the inflation that that would cause?
Zero waiting lists.? Perhaps Ban waiting lists? Even the best systems have waiting lists, however we could learn a lot from China on this one.
Freeze immigration? It is already difficult to immigrate to the UK. Even for wives of British citizens. However the population of the UK is probably larger than the infrastructure can support, I am just waiting for someone to suggest killing off the excess oldies and infirm to make space and reduce costs. And release housing. Perhaps, set an age limit at one year beyond retirement, with free cremation. Seem to remember Germany had some good working models for that in the 1940's.
That would be far more cost effective than providing funding to bring our support infrastructures up to date.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
RestlessSoul said:
Boris Johnson’s clown-car government secured a huge majority with just over 40% of the popular vote, and pushed the most extreme form of Brexit through a powerless Parliament, so that’s not a great advert for FPTP. And can you imagine a Tory/Reform hybrid of the future, with a significant commons majority? That’s a scary prospect.
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As Labour has found out, you win elections from the centre, Corbyn was too far left and lost heavy. If the Tories go further right, they will not win.
 
RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
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Secret Chief

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
Had a Racism UK leaflet pushed through today, despite the Labour posters on show. It looks like a high school project, complete with spelling mistake. Waste of paper obviously.

Still, they've been drumming up support locally; I guess the 4 likes are from the 4 in the photo...

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Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Eddi said:
I'm sure the amount of votes they will get will be just as impressive
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They will actually get quite a lot of votes. However they are too evenly spread throughout the population for them to win many seats, but it could well be in the teens. The libs will get fewer votes but far more seats some where between 50 and 70 likely as not.
Very few of the elected Reform candidates will have a clue about how to speak in parliament or ever what an MP must do.
They are totally ignorant about such things. As they have not even spent time in local politics.
 
Eddi

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
Terrywoodenpic said:
They will actually get quite a lot of votes. However they are too evenly spread throughout the population for them to win many seats, but it could well be in the teens. The libs will get fewer votes but far more seats some where between 50 and 70 likely as not.
Very few of the elected Reform candidates will have a clue about how to speak in parliament or ever what an MP must do.
They are totally ignorant about such things. As they have not even spent time in local politics.
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Also, they have disowned three of their candidates after it emerged that they each said something or other that was horrifically racist
 
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