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The Vortex beckons,how many contradictions and errors are in the Qur'an

YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
kai said:
because its a perfect way to circumnavigate mistakes like the word "pure"

the Quran was written 1400 years ago in Arabic and to try and "decode" it to fit into modern thinking doesnt work.Unless of course you have that flexibility in words that when found are wrong in English can in fact have several meanings and you just pick one that suits your mindset.
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It does allow for a generous amount of "wiggle room".
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
eselam said:
you think rain and lighting is caused by no one?
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Are you actually saying that rain and lightning is caused by someone?


Seriously?



Like... really, seriously?




Like, really, really... seriously?

:thud:




I'm thinking this is another example of that famous Muslim humor. Right?
 
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syberpriend

Active Member
Paul Rusco said:
LOL! So then what's the point in trying to "decode" and objectivefy the "divine" interpretation from a text, in such a language?
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y , was bible originaly in greek? or Latin? was Vedas bhagwat geeta in hindi language?
Still the translation fo Quran in english, wont give u any error or contradiction, unlike bible which has 50,000 errors, as reported by Jehova's witness themselves.
 
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syberpriend

Active Member
nameless said:
how can a normal human being think rain and lightning is not natural and created by someone? also we all know cavemen had such believes. This book has nothing to say about water cycle. Surely there is a lot similarity between this book and cavemen theories.
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It depends on ur understanding :) Quran gives u guidance,. and signs of how it is being made, God made the system (in easy words for u specially) which is meant in the verses.
Its like similar to what Jesus said " I cast out devil with the finger of God" so would u take it Jesus brought finger of God from someehwre, and touch to the human to take out devil? or he brought finger of god to make man alive?
The verses are to be precise, and correct meaning should be taken, from it, which wise men do always.
 
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syberpriend

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kai said:
syberpriend said:
kai said:
so its open to interpretation then, the word pure would be a mistake so the word Tahooran,tahoora can mean clean if you want it too. thanks for that.
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Thats what I told u, the person who knows arabic well, will know the meaning as per the verse and sentence, as arabic have many meanings of single words,
likewise, for example. sword have almost 500 words in arabic, a table have many meaning depends on the usage and necesity.
Hope it clears all
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nameless

nameless

The Creator
syberpriend said:
It depends on ur understanding :) Quran gives u guidance,. and signs of how it is being made, God made the system (in easy words for u specially) which is meant in the verses.
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wrong guidance may be, how can one relate the water cycle in quran with real water cycle mechanism? allah says he is responsible for raining while it has proven that it happens naturally.

syberpriend said:
Its like similar to what Jesus said " I cast out devil with the finger of God" so would u take it Jesus brought finger of God from someehwre, and touch to the human to take out devil? or he brought finger of god to make man alive?
The verses are to be precise, and correct meaning should be taken, from it, which wise men do always.
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to be honest im not familiar with verses of jesus or someone, so dont try to justify quran verses in this manner, just simply speak out the point.
 
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syberpriend

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nameless said:
wrong guidance may be, how can one relate the water cycle in quran with real water cycle mechanism? allah says he is responsible for raining while it has proven that it happens naturally.

And how u describe nature?

to be honest im not familiar with verses of jesus or someone, so dont try to justify quran verses in this manner, just simply speak out the point.
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Point is this, that the this is the form of revealed scripture, they dont describe u in depth of the things, same like if uve studied Vedas, Geetas etc, almost same format is there as well. What Quran means here in short is, that the mechanism of rain, and others, is made by God, like the mechanism of Sun rising and Sun set, did it ever happen by chance it gets wrong? and sun set in another direction as normal?
 
nameless

nameless

The Creator
syberpriend said:
And how u describe nature?
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it is just properties, spark is caused when rocks are rubbed each other, water vapour is formed when water is heat, just physics, chemistry etc .......

BTW im feeling myself low for explaining these silly things.
 
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syberpriend

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nameless said:
it is just properties, spark is caused when rocks are rubbed each other, water vapour is formed when water is heat, just physics, chemistry etc .......

BTW im feeling myself low for explaining these silly things.
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u r not feeling low, u dnt have knowledge of these, explain if u know, wat is nature?
 
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syberpriend

Active Member
Commoner said:
What do rain and lightning have to do with human reproduction? Are you having trouble staying on topic?
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The topic is not of rain cyvle, topic is for contradiction in Quran, if u have any bring it, we will talk on that as per topic. dont go away from topic plz
 
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syberpriend

Active Member
Commoner said:
I was answering a question regarding rain and lightning, not human reproduction. :facepalm:
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y hiding face? feeling shame or something? come to topic, this topic regarding rain and lighting is discussed already in detail, every1 is back to topic, so if u want any question, post it regarding the topic plz
 
Commoner

Commoner

Headache
syberpriend said:
y hiding face? feeling shame or something? come to topic, this topic regarding rain and lighting is discussed already in detail, every1 is back to topic, so if u want any question, post it regarding the topic plz
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It was your friend Esalam that asked the question. If you feel it's off-topic, you should take it up with him.
 
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