The Vortex beckons,how many contradictions and errors are in the Qur'an

[kai]

Pure water does;nt mean its distillled water dear it means pure for land, to fertile it, that ppl can drink by storing it as well, can they drink sea-water directly? use some mind brother

Pure means pure, and rainwater is not pure. maybe the Arabic word used is not "pure" otherwise its wrong.

 

[Gharib]

selam brother syberpriend.

i just want to let you know that you shouldn't call non muslims brothers. they are not of the same faith. you and i are brothers due to faith. Allah (swt) says:
[SIZE=+1][Hujurat 49:10] The Muslims are brothers to each other....[/SIZE]

 

[Breathe]

i just want to let you know that you shouldn't call non muslims brothers. they are not of the same faith. you and i are brothers due to faith.

Aw, I prefer being called a brother, as well.

 

[England my lionheart]

I think we need a rain check in this thread (excuse the pun) name calling and condecending remarks such as "dear"add nothing to a debate so if we could eave those out it woud be good.

 

[England my lionheart]

" We send down pure water from the sky. That with it We may give life to a dead land, and slake the thirst of things We have created,- cattle and men in great numbers. Surat al-Furqan, 48- 49)

This is,as Kai pointed out wrong because rainwater isn't pure.

"It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until you see rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice!"

Wrong,countries such as Afghanistan,Oman,Iran,Egypt (notice a pattern yet) Bahrain,Jordan,i could go on but these countries are prone to drought and these countries contain servants of Islam,i guess they did'nt make the as he will list.
"And He who sends down (from time to time) water from the sky in due measure, and We raise to life therewith a land that is dead. Even so will you be raised (from the dead) (Surat az -Zukhruf, 11)Wrong,the amount of rain has changed throughout history so there is no due measure.It is hard to make a case for the Quran here as a book of scientific miraces and confirms what i already know that it is a book of faith and not facts.

 

[kai]

selam brother syberpriend.

i just want to let you know that you shouldn't call non muslims brothers. they are not of the same faith. you and i are brothers due to faith. Allah (swt) says:
[SIZE=+1][Hujurat 49:10] The Muslims are brothers to each other....[/SIZE]

yes! us and them eh!

 

[YmirGF]

selam brother syberpriend.

i just want to let you know that you shouldn't call non muslims brothers. they are not of the same faith. you and i are brothers due to faith. Allah (swt) says:
[SIZE=+1][Hujurat 49:10] The Muslims are brothers to each other....[/SIZE]

Thank you for the clarification, Eselam. I know if find the inference that a Muslim is my "brother or sister" to be quite insulting.

 

[syberpriend]

Thank you for the clarification, Eselam. I know if find the inference that a Muslim is my "brother or sister" to be quite insulting.

Well its an insult for a muslim to call a dog or pig their brother/sister, I can never call u my brother/sister in same way

 

[syberpriend]

" We send down pure water from the sky. That with it We may give life to a dead land, and slake the thirst of things We have created,- cattle and men in great numbers. Surat al-Furqan, 48- 49)

This is,as Kai pointed out wrong because rainwater isn't pure.

"It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until you see rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice!"

Wrong,countries such as Afghanistan,Oman,Iran,Egypt (notice a pattern yet) Bahrain,Jordan,i could go on but these countries are prone to drought and these countries contain servants of Islam,i guess they did'nt make the as he will list.
"And He who sends down (from time to time) water from the sky in due measure, and We raise to life therewith a land that is dead. Even so will you be raised (from the dead) (Surat az -Zukhruf, 11)Wrong,the amount of rain has changed throughout history so there is no due measure.It is hard to make a case for the Quran here as a book of scientific miraces and confirms what i already know that it is a book of faith and not facts.

I think sitting in england and browsing on net will never bring u real facts, Oman, Egypt, Iran Afghanistan,and others u mention, are dry countries, but rich in agriculture, they dot fall in drought,, due measure if u think every year 100000 ltr will fall, u r mistaken here, due measure means its equaly distributed to every part of year. whether u believe it or not, I told already, Quran is book of signs, guidance, u can't call it book of science, it contains topic or evvery subject, in short manner, it cannot give u formulas or more explanations, the verses are clear for sensible and educated ppl to understand.
But for u, u dont have answer to the questions, for u there is no sign in Quran even ur science can;t give u correct answer

 

[syberpriend]

Pure means pure, and rainwater is not pure. maybe the Arabic word used is not "pure" otherwise its wrong.

If u know, rain water was used for drinking as well, specialy in places of hunger, drought, etc, and still in 3rd world countries, where pure water is not available easily, rainwater is there major source. And in all times, rainwater is best to make land fertile fertile. no water is pure, it has some other minerals always

 

[syberpriend]

oh ok, dont need to say that, it is visible in this thread. And would you like to see more blunders in quran? :drool:

If u r not satisfied, its ur mind, but till now u have'nt produced any blunder or mistake in quran. keep trying kid

 

[syberpriend]

Hi syberpriend!


Secondly, I must point out that in certain parts of the world, rain water is anything but pure and would have to be filtered heavily if it is to be used as drinking water. Do you have an explanation for that?
In certain parts, not all parts, in most part, rain water is still used for drinking, ofcourse in some parts, even tap water they distilledd for drinking, in old times, there was no distilation plant, they dont use sea-water for ddrinking, maybe in ur part they do.

Also - given that any physics professor (and any student) can demonstrate in a classroom how the raincycle works in a few simple steps, do you think god is responsible for that as well? Does god work as a teacher's assistant in his spare time? I mean, I know we're in a recession, but I didn't know it was that bad...

we are not talking for ur primarY class experiment, ur class can show experiment how life begins on earth? If u say life begins by itself, from water, by some amount of heat etc. I'll give u challennege to do experiment,
Put some water, and through some amount of heat on it, see if u any human os born from this" this will prove if life can begin by itself or not. AGREE??

 

[England my lionheart]

I think sitting in england and browsing on net will never bring u real facts, Oman, Egypt, Iran Afghanistan,and others u mention, are dry countries, but rich in agriculture, they dot fall in drought,, due measure if u think every year 100000 ltr will fall, u r mistaken here, due measure means its equaly distributed to every part of year. whether u believe it or not, I told already, Quran is book of signs, guidance, u can't call it book of science, it contains topic or evvery subject, in short manner, it cannot give u formulas or more explanations, the verses are clear for sensible and educated ppl to understand.
But for u, u dont have answer to the questions, for u there is no sign in Quran even ur science can;t give u correct answer

Interesting,you say "u can't call it book of science" with which i totally agree:yes: yet all over the net and indeed this Forum ,we have the caimed Scientific miracles of the Qur'an etc until its shown that it does'nt contain any then it becomes a book of signs,wonder why.

 

[syberpriend]

Interesting,you say "u can't call it book of science" with which i totally agree:yes: yet all over the net and indeed this Forum ,we have the caimed Scientific miracles of the Qur'an etc until its shown that it does'nt contain any then it becomes a book of signs,wonder why.

Nowhere in net it sayd, Quran as book of science, maybe u should check again, it says scientific miracles in quran, think u drink a bit more today, alll what u r posting are illogical and out of sense

 

[England my lionheart]

Nowhere in net it sayd, Quran as book of science, maybe u should check again, it says scientific miracles in quran, think u drink a bit more today, alll what u r posting are illogical and out of sense

I think your inability to grasp the English language is impairing your thinking,there are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an thats why its not a book of science because science is nowhere to be seen within it,it is misguided people such as Zakir Naik who propose it to be otherwise than what it actually is.

PS thanks for reminding me,i think i'll have a cold Beer as i have'nt drank anything yet

 

[syberpriend]

I think your inability to grasp the English language is impairing your thinking,there are no scientific miracles in the Qur'an thats why its not a book of science because science is nowhere to be seen within it,it is misguided people such as Zakir Naik who propose it to be otherwise than what it actually is.

PS thanks for reminding me,i think i'll have a cold Beer as i have'nt drank anything yet

I dont care what u understandd, my duty is done, even ur western scientist agreed on it, u dont agree, its not my problem. Its not only Zakir Naik by the way, it was already proven long time before him.
Ive to sleep now, see u all tomorrow,
& back to topic, where are ur contradictions of Quran? finish already?

 

[Commoner]

In certain parts, not all parts, in most part, rain water is still used for drinking, ofcourse in some parts, even tap water they distilledd for drinking, in old times, there was no distilation plant, they dont use sea-water for ddrinking, maybe in ur part they do.

So, can you explain why rainwater isn't pure if it says in the Qur'an that it is? You said it yourself - rain water simply isn't pure everywhere. Ever heard of acid rain?

What good is this book of yours if following its verses can get you sick?

we are not talking for ur primarY class experiment, ur class can show experiment how life begins on earth? If u say life begins by itself, from water, by some amount of heat etc. I'll give u challennege to do experiment,
Put some water, and through some amount of heat on it, see if u any human os born from this" this will prove if life can begin by itself or not. AGREE??

We were discussing the rain cycle, why are you changing topics? You haven't answered the question: does god condense the water so that your professor can show you how the rain cycle works?

 

[England my lionheart]

I dont care what u understandd, my duty is done, even ur western scientist agreed on it, u dont agree, its not my problem. Its not only Zakir Naik by the way, it was already proven long time before him.
Ive to sleep now, see u all tomorrow,
& back to topic, where are ur contradictions of Quran? finish already?

No,theres lots to get through,995 to go

 

[nameless]

syberpriend,

these verses are ultra stupid, surely written by the cave men who frighted lightning and fire.

lightning is occured due to sign of allah - wrong, lightning is caused by collission of the clouds.
and its allah who is sending water from the sky - wrong, water vapour is condensed to become water and rains.
and with it gives life to the earth after its death - wrong, its the property of water to make the earth lifefull.

where is the involvement of god in these?

i advice you to get help from 3rd standard student, out of sympathy he will teach you water cycle.

any doubt with this? you could not able to prove the involvement of god in water cycle !!!

 

[kai]

Pure means pure, and rainwater is not pure. maybe the Arabic word used is not "pure" otherwise its wrong.

If u know, rain water was used for drinking as well, specialy in places of hunger, drought, etc, and still in 3rd world countries, where pure water is not available easily, rainwater is there major source. And in all times, rainwater is best to make land fertile fertile. no water is pure, it has some other minerals always

Then whats the Arabic word used in the Quran? because the English word "pure" is wrong.