The Walking Dead

[Sha'irullah]

Not that I'm completely lost on the series yet, but I have to agree with you for the most part. The first season was very typical of the genre and exactly what I was hoping to see and it's slowly become a relationship drama from there. I was really expecting something different from it, I guess. The zombies seem to be a non-issue at this point. They just kill them at will, because they are only there to stretch a scene. It's not the plot anymore. It's the scenery.

I am not interested in other people's lives yet alone make-believe dramatic ones on television. The Walking Dead just went downhill after season 1. I simply don't care enough about any of the characters to be concerned with watching the program. Drama has become overrated in television because all the plots holes have been done and the methodology of in which it is implemented is shoddy and unrealistic.
I demanded zombies and all I got was a romantic dribbling drama. Making such awful television shows should be made illegal and punishable by law for crimes against entertainment.

 

[Sir Doom]

I am not interested in other people's lives yet alone make-believe dramatic ones on television. The Walking Dead just went downhill after season 1. I simply don't care enough about any of the characters to be concerned with watching the program. Drama has become overrated in television because all the plots holes have been done and the methodology of in which it is implemented is shoddy and unrealistic.
I demanded zombies and all I got was a romantic dribbling drama. Making such awful television shows should be made illegal and punishable by law for crimes against entertainment.

Haha, I must confess to being very fond of watching horribly bad things on TV and raking them over the coals. More than one way to be entertained.

 

[Sir Doom]

I'll say this, too. I hated Lori from the very first episode precisely because she was the reason any of that kind of nonsense was happening. She turned Shane into a lunatic with her petty vindictiveness. How someone can feel they have the right to create animosity in the group over what amount to trivialities considering the circumstances is beyond me.

In my eyes, Shane did exactly what he should have done. He could not have carried Rick from that hospital. That would have killed them both. Instead he saved both of their lives with his actions. He gave Rick the best shot to live that he could think of at the time, and it worked. THEN he goes and saves his entire family. If that isn't 'doing right by your friend' then I have no idea what the word 'right' means.

And what does she do? Ostracizes him. Treats him like a pariah. Like he's the bad guy for saving everyone she could ever care about's life just because he had to lie to her to do it. She's offended that he could dare to lie to her? Get over yourself lady. ITS THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Not that I'm completely lost on the series yet, but I have to agree with you for the most part. The first season was very typical of the genre and exactly what I was hoping to see and it's slowly become a relationship drama from there. I was really expecting something different from it, I guess. The zombies seem to be a non-issue at this point. They just kill them at will, because they are only there to stretch a scene. It's not the plot anymore. It's the scenery.

While I still enjoy watching the show, I totally agree with what you're saying. It does seem like the zombies are kind of an afterthought at this point.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'll say this, too. I hated Lori from the very first episode precisely because she was the reason any of that kind of nonsense was happening. She turned Shane into a lunatic with her petty vindictiveness. How someone can feel they have the right to create animosity in the group over what amount to trivialities considering the circumstances is beyond me.

In my eyes, Shane did exactly what he should have done. He could not have carried Rick from that hospital. That would have killed them both. Instead he saved both of their lives with his actions. He gave Rick the best shot to live that he could think of at the time, and it worked. THEN he goes and saves his entire family. If that isn't 'doing right by your friend' then I have no idea what the word 'right' means.

And what does she do? Ostracizes him. Treats him like a pariah. Like he's the bad guy for saving everyone she could ever care about's life just because he had to lie to her to do it. She's offended that he could dare to lie to her? Get over yourself lady. ITS THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.

Yep, yep and yep. I was hoping so badly that they'd kill her off. And I got my wish.

 

[freethinker44]

Originally Posted by Sir Doom
Not that I'm completely lost on the series yet, but I have to agree with you for the most part. The first season was very typical of the genre and exactly what I was hoping to see and it's slowly become a relationship drama from there. I was really expecting something different from it, I guess. The zombies seem to be a non-issue at this point. They just kill them at will, because they are only there to stretch a scene. It's not the plot anymore. It's the scenery.

While I still enjoy watching the show, I totally agree with what you're saying. It does seem like the zombies are kind of an afterthought at this point.

You have to consider that it has been at least a year, if not more since it all started. At some point people are going to quit hiding in attics and build out their environments. If they haven't learned how to survive after a year then that is what wouldn't be realistic. Sure it's zombie apocalypse, but life goes on, even with a bunch of dead people walking around.

Honestly, this is exactly where I would expect them to be right now. If zombies took over, then next step after learning to survive them, is learning to survive ourselves and how to live with the collapse of our society, government, infrastructure, etc. And I would expect people to band together in groups, forming their own local dictatorships and eventually warring with other groups.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You have to consider that it has been at least a year, if not more since it all started. At some point people are going to quit hiding in attics and build out their environments. If they haven't learned how to survive after a year then that is what wouldn't be realistic. Sure it's zombie apocalypse, but life goes on, even with a bunch of dead people walking around.

Honestly, this is exactly where I would expect them to be right now. If zombies took over, then next step after learning to survive them, is learning to survive ourselves and how to live with the collapse of our society, government, infrastructure, etc. And I would expect people to band together in groups, forming their own local dictatorships and eventually warring with other groups.

Okay, that's a pretty good point.

 

[Sir Doom]

You have to consider that it has been at least a year, if not more since it all started. At some point people are going to quit hiding in attics and build out their environments. If they haven't learned how to survive after a year then that is what wouldn't be realistic. Sure it's zombie apocalypse, but life goes on, even with a bunch of dead people walking around.

Honestly, this is exactly where I would expect them to be right now. If zombies took over, then next step after learning to survive them, is learning to survive ourselves and how to live with the collapse of our society, government, infrastructure, etc. And I would expect people to band together in groups, forming their own local dictatorships and eventually warring with other groups.

I can't argue with that really. I do tend to be overly critical. I was very disappointed with how that all wrapped up though. Probably made me sour in hindsight lol.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I'll say this, too. I hated Lori from the very first episode precisely because she was the reason any of that kind of nonsense was happening. She turned Shane into a lunatic with her petty vindictiveness. How someone can feel they have the right to create animosity in the group over what amount to trivialities considering the circumstances is beyond me.

In my eyes, Shane did exactly what he should have done. He could not have carried Rick from that hospital. That would have killed them both. Instead he saved both of their lives with his actions. He gave Rick the best shot to live that he could think of at the time, and it worked. THEN he goes and saves his entire family. If that isn't 'doing right by your friend' then I have no idea what the word 'right' means.

And what does she do? Ostracizes him. Treats him like a pariah. Like he's the bad guy for saving everyone she could ever care about's life just because he had to lie to her to do it. She's offended that he could dare to lie to her? Get over yourself lady. ITS THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.

I had more issues with Andrea's character arc than Lori's.

I think Lori experienced guilt over sleeping with Shane and not ever really being sure that the baby was Shane's or Rick's, and she projected that guilt by pushing Shane away and treating him like the bad guy. But she went back and forth with her guilt and her conscience over and over again, being that she continued to try to keep Shane in the group every time he wanted to opt out by bringing up how much of an influence he was on Carl, and then pushing him away when she reminded herself that she needed to act like Rick's wife again.

So much happened, and everybody was just trying to survive, make sense out of a zombie apocalypse, and keeping some semblance of social constructs for sanity's sake. Rick and Lori's marriage was already rocky to begin with before the **** hit the fan, and all the breakdowns of communication and the questioning of loyalty just surfaced with more ferocity than before when life was more mundane. Their on-again-off-again love and commitment toward each other coupled with surviving zombies and other human threats only magnified the cracks in their personalities and their marriage.

The way Andrea's character left the show, given that she lasted longer in the comic, was disappointing and non-sensical.

 

[james bond]

Zombie Milton would be more of a man than living Milton.
But yeah, it was excruciating to watch Andrea lollygag with the pliers.

The finale was lame, lame, lame. All of the cliffhangers ended in disappointment. I liked the way Merle went out in the previous episode. That was the way to end a character!

Andrea deserved to be killed, but it didn't make sense how she was killed. She should have killed Milton with the pliers easily and escaped (Or maybe she just pushes Milton off and he still lives as a zombie who shows up again later to creep Rick out). No need to contort herself in order to get the pliers. Maybe she gets killed later by the Governor after he saw she was still alive in a huge finale gun battle scene. It was like oh, we did that with Merle already so we can't do another.

The finale was too contrived like how these people died was more important than trying to build upon the storyline. They had to get all these "twists" and drama to the story in and ended up screwing the story.

And what was up with the Governor shooting his own people and they just doing nothing? That part didn't make any sense to me. Ok, the Governor has gone full crazy. I get that, but he shouldn't be dumb crazy. I thought it would have been the Governor vs Rick, but it didn't even get close. I would have preferred the Governor gets Andrea and then Rick wounds the Governor after they were engaging against each other while zombie Milton almost gets Rick and lets the Governor escapes. Maybe Andrea re-animates and Michonne ends up slicing her head off.

Am I missing something here? I haven't watched all of the season 2 and season 3 shows, but got enough to expect something coherent in the finale.

 

[StarryNightshade]

Eh, I honestly don't care for it. In fact, I don't really understand the whole obsession with Zombies or the "Zombie Apocalypse" to be honest.

Although, admttingly, it is kind of cool to hear my towns name mentioned in a major show (I'm from Augusta).

 

[freethinker44]

I don't really understand the whole obsession with Zombies or the "Zombie Apocalypse" to be honest.

Because they are AWESOME!!!

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Eh, I honestly don't care for it. In fact, I don't really understand the whole obsession with Zombies or the "Zombie Apocalypse" to be honest.

For me, it's my way of justifying killing a humanoid-looking thing and believing that I'm not doing anything wrong, and that I'm actually defending others while releasing the zombie from its suffering.

But it's also a Romero-philosophical position, that a culture encourages zombie-like behavior, mindlessly consuming everything in its path with no regard to the impact of the individual and collective consumption. And the hunger is never-ending. We will consume and consume and consume until there are none of us left.....and there you have it. Apocalypse.

Although, admttingly, it is kind of cool to hear my towns name mentioned in a major show (I'm from Augusta).

That IS kind of cool.

 

[Sir Doom]

For me, it's my way of justifying killing a humanoid-looking thing and believing that I'm not doing anything wrong, and that I'm actually defending others while releasing the zombie from its suffering.

I agree totally with this. It's my preferred apocalypse if I must have one. Horrible as it would be I could feel I was making a difference to the end.

But it's also a Romero-philosophical position, that a culture encourages zombie-like behavior, mindlessly consuming everything in its path with no regard to the impact of the individual and collective consumption. And the hunger is never-ending. We will consume and consume and consume until there are none of us left.....and there you have it. Apocalypse.

True, true. I think it speaks to how dangerous the human animal is. Most especially to itself. In zombieland its the other survivors you really have to worry about. You already know what the zombies are going to do.

 

[freethinker44]

This is hilarious.

[youtube]jR4lLJu_-wE[/youtube]
"The Walking (And Talking) Dead"

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Anyone else watching this show? I love zombies!

haha

It's great, but the comic is far better.

The show committed suicide when it got to the prison - the difference from the comic became too insane.

 

[kalyan]

Walking dead from season 2 it is crap,, nothing much

 

[Quagmire]

This is hilarious.

[youtube]jR4lLJu_-wE[/youtube]
"The Walking (And Talking) Dead"

:clap:clap:clap:clap

 

[MysticSang'ha]

:clap:clap:clap:clap

I love Bad Lip Reading. And this one is on par with what they usually do - pure gold. :yes:

 

[Revoltingest]

It's great, but the comic is far better.

The show committed suicide when it got to the prison - the difference from the comic became too insane.

Oh, Lord....please spare us the derision of snobs who lecture us that only the original & pure form is legit.

(You know, Angie, I couldn't resist. It's not my fault. I have a problem.)