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The wedding of jesus

gnostic

gnostic

The Lost One
beneck said:
Who says???
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God's 1st commandment, when creating the 1st man and woman was "Be fruitful...mate like rabbits....and make lots of hopping bambinos."
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Poisonshady313

Poisonshady313

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Beneck said:
Who says???
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Marriage is vitally important in Judaism. Refraining from marriage is not considered holy, as it is in some other religions. On the contrary, it is considered unnatural. The Talmud says that an unmarried man is constantly thinking of sin. The Talmud tells of a rabbi who was introduced to a young unmarried rabbi. The older rabbi told the younger one not to come into his presence again until he was married.


Marriage is not solely, or even primarily, for the purpose of procreation. Traditional sources recognize that companionship, love and intimacy are the primary purposes of marriage, noting that woman was created in Gen. 2:18 because "it is not good for man to be alone," rather than because she was necessary for procreation.




The Talmud recommends that a man be married between the ages of 16 and 24.
 
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Beneck

Member
gnostic said:
God's 1st commandment, when creating the 1st man and woman was "Be fruitful...mate like rabbits....and make lots of hopping bambinos."
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Yes, He did say that. But He didn't say to get married first! In fact, where's the wedding ceremony He performed in the Bible for Adam and Eve, the 2 creatues He created?? Maybe the Rabbies decided on that, just like the (catholic) priests and bishops used to decide on so many things for their "faithful".
 
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emiliano

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Ben Masada, your OP hangs out on you proving that you know what branch of Judaism Jesus was a Rabbi of, do you know?
What if He was Nazarene (a sect in Judaism "the way" sect of the notzrim yahudim or sect within Judaism called the Nazarenes - Followers of "the way" ) Would He have to be married to became a Rabbi?
What if He was of the Essenes?
Essenes. This sect believed the Sadducees and Pharisees had corrupted the city and the Temple. They moved out of Jerusalem and lived a monastic life in the desert, adopting strict dietary laws and a commitment to celibacy.
PS I’ll stone you regardless!
 
blackout

blackout

Violet.
I dunno. I liked Ben's version. It was different.
It's all just stories and interpretations anyway.

He definately gets points for originality.
 
Jeremy Mason

Jeremy Mason

Well-Known Member
emiliano said:
Ben Masada, your OP hangs out on you proving that you know what branch of Judaism Jesus was a Rabbi of, do you know?
What if He was Nazarene (a sect in Judaism "the way" sect of the notzrim yahudim or sect within Judaism called the Nazarenes - Followers of "the way" ) Would He have to be married to became a Rabbi?
What if He was of the Essenes?
Essenes. This sect believed the Sadducees and Pharisees had corrupted the city and the Temple. They moved out of Jerusalem and lived a monastic life in the desert, adopting strict dietary laws and a commitment to celibacy.
PS I’ll stone you regardless!
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I believe Jesus came out of the tribe of Judah.
 
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emiliano

Well-Known Member
Jeremy Mason said:
I believe Jesus came out of the tribe of Judah.
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And that makes Him???? My incline is that He was Essene, this because His numerous clashes wit the Pharisees and Sadducees.
The similarity between a number of Essene and Christian concepts and practices (kingdom of God, baptism, sacred meals, the position of a central teacher, titles of officeholders, and community organization) has led some people to assume that there was a close kinship between the Essenes and the groups around John the Baptist and Jesus Christ. It is possible that after the dissolution of the Essene community some members followed John the Baptist or joined one of the early Christian communities, but any other direct connection seems unlikely.
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Jeremy Mason

Jeremy Mason

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emiliano said:
And that makes Him????
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Qualified to be the Messiah that is prophesied in the OT.
Judah, son of Jacob - Biblical people

emiliano said:
My incline is that He was Essene, this because His numerous clashes wit the Pharisees and Sadducees.
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While Jesus had Essene characteristics, he also acted contrary to the Essene philosophy. For example, Jesus was in company with many people the Essene's thought were unworthy. Here a link that discusses the issues in greater detail.

Jesus and the Essenes -- The Essene Way of Life -- Olivier Manitara
 
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Oberon

Well-Known Member
Beneck said:
Yes, He did say that. But He didn't say to get married first! In fact, where's the wedding ceremony He performed in the Bible for Adam and Eve, the 2 creatues He created?? Maybe the Rabbies decided on that, just like the (catholic) priests and bishops used to decide on so many things for their "faithful".
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Again, rabbinic judaism did not exist during Jesus' time! The title rabbi (aramaic rabouni) simply meant "teacher" or even "sir". It was an honorific form of address, not a profession, position, or anything like that.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Oberon said:
Again, rabbinic judaism did not exist during Jesus' time! The title rabbi (aramaic rabouni) simply meant "teacher" or even "sir". It was an honorific form of address, not a profession, position, or anything like that.
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You can repeat that until you're blue in the face...
 
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emiliano

Well-Known Member
Jeremy Mason said:
Qualified to be the Messiah that is prophesied in the OT.
Judah, son of Jacob - Biblical people
While Jesus had Essene characteristics, he also acted contrary to the Essene philosophy. For example, Jesus was in company with many people the Essene's thought were unworthy. Here a link that discusses the issues in greater detail.
Jesus and the Essenes -- The Essene Way of Life -- Olivier Manitara
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Interesting sites, and you right Jesus was so different than other Rabbi, He sought for disciples, the Pharisees and Sadducees were sought by those wanting to learn, they would not dare to share a meal or enter the house of non Jewish, so where all this leaves us?
Or perhaps Jesus is the founder of the Nazarenes movement ant it first Rabbi, a revolutionary teacher, the Messiah the word tabernacled on earth Isa 42:1 Behold My Servant, whom I uphold; My Elect, in whom My soul delights. I have put My Spirit on Him; He shall bring out judgment to the nations.
Isa 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged until He has set judgment in the earth; and the coasts shall wait for His Law.
 
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