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Theological terrorists

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
and where were you before this life?
where will you be after this life?
Same places as you........ lots of us came out of a huge star that burst, that the only way for our carbon to exist now.

and the formation of you has a point?
Sure......... exactly the same point as the ducks in my garden, or the little hounds snoozing at my feet.

not much of a point....if you end up as dust
I was dust before, and look what happened to me, and so, instead of worrying about 'why' I'll drink to such a wondrous privilege given. I can acknowledge Theist's faiths but feel sad that they waste their lives over it all...... the sparrows don't. :)
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
It seems to me that some people think God speaks to them, telling them to take control of other people's lives.

Danger, danger........

Faith tells us to change our own selves and to share that, to those that want to hear.

But how do we know how wants to hear, I in no way though about it, was apposed to it, but then considered it.

I am but one amongst billions that could take the same path.

Regards Tony
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Faith tells us to change our own selves and to share that, to those that want to hear.

But how do we know how wants to hear, I in no way though about it, was apposed to it, but then considered it.

I am but one amongst billions that could take the same path.

Regards Tony

And I am one amongst billions that don't want a Theocratical path of any kind. Especially under the control of people who insist that they can hear God talking to them.

Danger, danger......
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
There it is........ the determination to try and control others' lives.
And Theocracies think they know what's good for the World, and then try to force it.

Danger, danger........

Ha ha, that was a twist and a half, actually a full spin of what was offered.

But that is what OB loves to do, such entertainment.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
And I am one amongst billions that don't want a Theocratical path of any kind. Especially under the control of people who insist that they can hear God talking to them.

Danger, danger......


Indeed we face many dangers.

It maybe that stance is one of them, time will tell OB and I say you and me may not have much of that left :D;)

Regards Tony
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
In a world of unicorns, marshmallow houses, elves, fairies, Santa, et al, it is disturbing to look at the realities of homeless people, cancer victims who pray and are ignored, destroyed forests, and read in the bible of punishments for not following God's commandments.

Five year old children choose not to; theirs is a world of eternal bliss, even if they live in a war zone.

As we grow older, and take on the responsibilities for our families, and take on responsibilities for our own actions, we know that we have to obey the traffic signs and, most of all, must obey the signs from God.

For example, in Revelation (a chapter of the bible), we were commanded by God not to attack Iraq or face the dire consequences (example: Revelation 15 (seven plagues, including COVID)).

Nine days after the 911 attack, the Taliban (religious and political leaders of Afghanistan) had captured Osama bin Laden and offered to turn him over to the US, but W. Bush insisted that do it immediately, and they had refused because they needed to confer with each other (as Congress does). W. Bush bore false witness against the Taliban to convince US citizens (and the world) that they were, somehow, the enemy.

France, Russia, Germany, and a host of other nations had refused to join a coalition against them because there was no proof of involvement with the al Qaeda or terrorism. The pope urged W. Bush to not attack Babylon, Iraq because of dire predictions in Revelation (a chapter of the bible). The pope had issued the most strongly worded See to the United States, urging that he not attack Babylon, but it did no good.

Suddenly, the world's best psychics, from around the world, were joining forces on the internet, seeking each other out, and joining forces, all claiming that they see dire consequences (plagues, droughts, and end of the world apocalypses) if W. Bush attacked Babylon, Iraq. They were ordered by God to tell the world not to attack Babylon, Iraq. W. Bush had falsely accused all naysayers of being al Qaeda spies, and had ordered the CIA to put out propaganda against the prophets of God.

Openly defying God, and openly defying the prophets of God, and openly defying the pope, and openly defying the various powerful and peaceful nations of the world, W. Bush continued his quest to murder a million innocents, defile their good reputations with lies, and bring on the plagues, droughts, and economic downturns that God's wrath has stirred up, culminating in total annihilation of all life on planet earth.

There have been times when God was defied before (Adam and Eve kicked out of Eden, Sodom and Gomorrah, Noah's flood), but the world was never entirely wiped out before, as it will be soon.

It says in Revelation (a chapter of the bible) that this wrath is yet to come, as a consequence of W. Bush's evil "fight against the Axis of Evil." He wasn't fightin' evil....he was (and is) evil, himself. He had committed war crimes (crimes of man), and committed blasphemy by defying God (crimes of God). He cannot travel abroad to Canada without extradition to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes for maintaining a torture camp in Guantanamo (not to mention the other torture camps that he had around the world, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and even on a ship in the Indian Ocean). The first mention of W. Bush's torture camps was from the International Red Cross, but that was silenced by bombs that killed them, dropped by American forces. Dead men tell no tales.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Indeed we face many dangers.

It maybe that stance is one of them, time will tell OB and I say you and me may not have much of that left :D;)

Regards Tony
Oh that's true for sure.
I'm ok now but on Monday last week I went for a routine blood test, and on Wednesday got an urgent call to get to Hospital at 9 Thursday morning. I was in theatre by 10am having a stent stuffed up the canal between bladder and kidney. The surgeon told me later that I am bloody lucky to have that kidney, all because of a keen lab technician and a fast response.
I'm not smug about time at all. I really do enjoy every day. And I do love the Missus bullying me about drinking lots of water and so forth. If only she had a nurses uniform. (oops!)
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
In a world of unicorns, marshmallow houses, elves, fairies, Santa, et al, it is disturbing to look at the realities of homeless people, cancer victims who pray and are ignored, destroyed forests, and read in the bible of punishments for not following God's commandments.

I think if you lived in a house of marshmallows, your reality would be pretty grim, too.

Raccoons munching on it all the time. A good wind gust would probably blow it over... Not to mention the attention it would attract. People would always be looking in the windows. Your privacy would be gone.

Your clothes would probably always be a sticky mess, too.
 

TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Yeah, change requires effort. But change from what to what? Change from a normal 21st Century person who has studied science to a superstitious buffoon of before the middle ages? Why would some one make such a change?

Change where one can embrace all that science can find and offer, in a spirit of the oneness of humanity, where all get a fair go to reach their full potential free of extreme poverty, free of predudices.

I wonder what Spirit we have to embrace to achieve that? :D

Do we need to put science in the front of attributes, or do we just agree the attributes are needed, no matter where we each see they come from?

Regards Tony
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
and where were you before this life?
where will you be after this life?

and the formation of you has a point?

not much of a point....if you end up as dust
Of course, you seem to be implying that there ought to a "point" to having a life, but I fail to see why that should be so. What is the "point" of an earthquake or tsunami? What is the point of a cable snapping and dropping the skiers 200 feet onto the mountain side? What is the point of cancer, or horrible parasites?
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
There are theological terrorists also, the people who would try to frighten people of the end of days, day of judgment, eternal hells and tortures therein. They shoot with their mouth, writings and web pages.

. . . If all those things are real, and I believe they are (in one form or another), the person proclaiming they're untrue is a world-class terrorist in that they may be sending multitudes to untold suffering by convincing them, or comforting them in their doubts about the reality of things that are in fact very very real.



John
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
.. in a spirit of the oneness of humanity, where all get a fair go to reach their full potential free of extreme poverty, free of predudices.
I wonder what Spirit we have to embrace to achieve that? :D
Do we need to put science in the front of attributes, or do we just agree the attributes are needed, no matter where we each see they come from?
Under the banner of Bahais. Sorry, we hold other banners.
Want to be free of prejudices, first abandon Bahaollah.
We have to embrace Vodka.
The attributes that are needed cannot be achieved without abandoning false attributes.
.. or comforting them in their doubts about the reality of things that are in fact very very real.
Got any proof of what you term as real?
 
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TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
Under the banner of Bahais. Sorry, we hold other banners.
Want to be free of prejudices, first abandon Bahaollah.
We have to embrace Vodka.
The attributes that are needed cannot be achieved without abandoning false attributes.Got any proof of what you term as real?

As per the OP, and the words you choose, that one may have to to consider if their stance is that of an atheist Terrorist.

:D

Regards Tony
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
As per the OP, and the words you choose, that one may have to to consider if their stance is that of an atheist Terrorist. :D
You feel threatened by what I have written? Did I say that you will suffer in eternal hell if you do not agree to what I say? Did I threatened you of any harm? In What way you feel threatened? ;)
 
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TransmutingSoul

One Planet, One People, Please!
Premium Member
You feel threatened by what I have written? Did I say that you will suffer in eternal hell if you do not agree to what I say? Did I threatened you of bodily harm? In What way you feel threatened? ;)

Why would I and why do you feel threatened by what is written, that may happen to humanity if they forget God?

If there is no God, there is nothing for you to fear, they would be empty words. ;)

Regards Tony
 
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