There are no eyewitness accounts of Jesus in the New Testament

[Trailblazer]

There are no eye witnesses to the creation of the earth

There are no eye witnesses to the dinosaurs.

There are no eye witnesses to the Neanderthals.

Yet all of them have been referred to in books and referenced by many types of people and professions.

Not sure what your point is. Are we not supposed to believe in anything that does not have an eye witness?

No, my point is not that we not supposed to believe in anything that does not have an eye witness.

My point is that Christians should not claim that there were eye witnesses to Jesus when there were no eye witnesses.
They can believe that if they want to but I consider it foolish, in light of the fact that scholarship shows that there were no eye witnesses.

Jesus being referred to in a book is not proof that Jesus was like the book says he was or that Jesus did anything the book says he did.

 

[bobhikes]

No, my point is not that we not supposed to believe in anything that does not have an eye witness.

My point is that Christians should not claim that there were eye witnesses to Jesus when there were no eye witnesses.
They can believe that if they want to but I consider it foolish, in light of the fact that scholarship shows that there were no eye witnesses.

Jesus being referred to in a book is not proof that Jesus was like the book says he was or that Jesus did anything the book says he did.

I've never heard that claim but fine and just a warning history is always falsified as it is written with a preconception. George Washington never cut down a cherry tree. Ben Franklin never flew a kite with a key in a rain storm. Columbus never landed on the American coast. Oddly Edison did electricute Animals.

 

[YoursTrue]

Maybe it is the most faith-based of all religions, but it is not necessarily the best.

Why do you say it is not necessarily the best? It helps to clarify statements, don't you think? What makes you say Christianity is not necessarily the best of faith-based religions?

 

[Trailblazer]

Why do you say it is not necessarily the best? It helps to clarify statements, don't you think? What makes you say Christianity is not necessarily the best of faith-based religions?

I said that Christianity is not necessarily the best of faith-based religions.

Do you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

If so, what makes you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

 

[YoursTrue]

No, my point is not that we not supposed to believe in anything that does not have an eye witness.

My point is that Christians should not claim that there were eye witnesses to Jesus when there were no eye witnesses.
They can believe that if they want to but I consider it foolish, in light of the fact that scholarship shows that there were no eye witnesses.

Jesus being referred to in a book is not proof that Jesus was like the book says he was or that Jesus did anything the book says he did.

I'd like to start going over the gospel (that means 'good news'--you probably know that) of Matthew.
The account of the life of Jesus Christ was written by the onetime tax collector Matthew. It is the first book in the Christian Greek Scriptures. Matthew’s account starts with the human ancestry of Jesus, followed by his birth, and concludes with Christ’s postresurrection commissioning of his followers to go and “make disciples of people of all the nations.” (Matthew 28:19,20) Thus it covers the time between Jesus’ birth and his meeting with his disciples just before his ascension in 33 C.E. We'll get into more hopefully later.

 

[YoursTrue]

I said that Christianity is not necessarily the best of faith-based religions.

Do you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

If so, what makes you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

If I thought every sect of those groups calling themselves Christian I would feel free to join any of them. But I don't. So I hope that answers your question in part. As you likely know, I don't believe in what is called a Trinity of 3 persons said to all be equal to each other, etc. So that eliminates many groups for me regarding their understanding of who or what God is. I'll start there and leave it there for a while to answer your question in a way.

 

[Trailblazer]

The account of the life of Jesus Christ was written by the onetime tax collector Matthew.

I do not believe that a disciple named Matthew wrote anything in the NT. All the evidence is to the contrary.

 

[Trailblazer]

If I thought every sect of those groups calling themselves Christian I would feel free to join any of them. But I don't. So I hope that answers your question in part. As you likely know, I don't believe in what is called a Trinity of 3 persons said to all be equal to each other, etc. So that eliminates many groups for me regarding their understanding of who or what God is. I'll start there and leave it there for a while to answer your question in a way.

I asked:

Do you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?
If so, what makes you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

Why didn't you answer my questions?

 

[YoursTrue]

I do not believe that a disciple named Matthew wrote anything in the NT. All the evidence is to the contrary.

OK, you don't believe it. Others do. Did Bahaullah say that Matthew didn't write any of it?

 

[YoursTrue]

I asked:

Do you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?
If so, what makes you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

Why didn't you answer my questions?

I did answer your questions. You just didn't see the answer. Try again to understand the answer.

 

[YoursTrue]

I asked:

Do you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?
If so, what makes you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

Why didn't you answer my questions?

I'll try again. If I thought every group calling themselves Christian were good I'd feel free to join any of them. But I do not think every group calling themselves Christian meets the standard the Bible puts forth. Does that help to understand my take on the matter or do you need further qualification?

 

[Jimmy]

I thought his12 disciples saw him. lol.

 

[Trailblazer]

OK, you don't believe it. Others do. Did Bahaullah say that Matthew didn't write any of it?

Baha'u'llah did not say anything about it.

 

[Trailblazer]

I did answer your questions. You just didn't see the answer. Try again to understand the answer.

Do you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?
If so, what makes you think that Christianity is the best of faith-based religions?

You said: If I thought every sect of those groups calling themselves Christian I would feel free to join any of them. But I don't. So I hope that answers your question in part. As you likely know, I don't believe in what is called a Trinity of 3 persons said to all be equal to each other, etc. So that eliminates many groups for me regarding their understanding of who or what God is. I'll start there and leave it there for a while to answer your question in a way.

That does not answer my question as to why you think Christianity is the best of faith-based religions. I was not comparing different Christian sects.

To be more clear, why is Christianity better than other faith-based religions such as Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or the Baha'i Faith?

 

[Trailblazer]

I'll try again. If I thought every group calling themselves Christian were good I'd feel free to join any of them. But I do not think every group calling themselves Christian meets the standard the Bible puts forth. Does that help to understand my take on the matter or do you need further qualification?

That does not answer my question as to why you think Christianity is the best of faith-based religions.
I was not comparing different Christian sects.

To be more clear, why is Christianity better than other faith-based religions such as Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or the Baha'i Faith?

 

[CG Didymus]

Why should I believe that?

Whoever this Luke guy is, here is what he had to say...

Luke1:1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

He's not claiming to be an eyewitness, but he says the stuff he's writing about was handed down by eyewitnesses.

 

[YoursTrue]

That does not answer my question as to why you think Christianity is the best of faith-based religions.
I was not comparing different Christian sects.

To be more clear, why is Christianity better than other faith-based religions such as Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or the Baha'i Faith?

You still don't understand the answer. I'll try once more. If I thought every group calling itself Christian was really Christian, I'd feel free to intermingle. See? Get it yet? Do I think every group or sect calling themselves Christian are Christian? I hope you understand that better now. I may be able to continue trying to help you if you understand what I'm saying here. But if not --oh well --have a nice day...

 

[YoursTrue]

Whoever this Luke guy is, here is what he had to say...

Luke1:1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

He's not claiming to be an eyewitness, but he says the stuff he's writing about was handed down by eyewitnesses.

If you heard about an outstanding person you might feel inclined to write about that person.

 

[YoursTrue]

That does not answer my question as to why you think Christianity is the best of faith-based religions.
I was not comparing different Christian sects.

To be more clear, why is Christianity better than other faith-based religions such as Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or the Baha'i Faith?

you are lumping all groups and sects that call themselves Christian into one category. I certainly do not do that, so -- you really need to define what you think is Christianity before I can answer. (Understand better now?)

 

[Trailblazer]

you are lumping all groups and sects that call themselves Christian into one category. I certainly do not do that, so -- you really need to define what you think is Christianity before I can answer. (Understand better now?)

As I already told you, I am not comparing Christian sects.
I asked, why is Christianity better than other faith-based religions such as Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, or the Baha'i Faith?