There are no mistakes in Quran

[firedragon]

It most certainly is the fault of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.

The Quran contains verses that encourage the killing of non-Muslims, the subjugation and the extortion of non-Muslims by Muslims. Regardless of the idea that the verses justify defensive wars or wars to protect the ummah, they are being interpreted now (and have been since Muhammad) as justification for waging aggressive wars of conquest against non-Muslims. You'd think an all-knowing god would have foreseen that and would have sought to nip it in the bud with a footnote.

Islam espouses a one-world theology where ultimately everyone must be Muslim. It teaches fanatical monotheism - the very idea of having beings that could be mistaken for God is antithetical to Islam, it suppresses critical thinking & independent thought on matters of religion and it reacts harshly to any action which goes against its beliefs - even those done by those who do not need to conform to Islamic rules.

Muhammad was a warlord who raided caravans, sold people into slavery and humped children. Okay, one child at the very least. He got thrown out of his city after decrying everyone else's religious practises & beliefs for 10 years and he responded by gathering an army of zealots, conquering Arabia and ruining its culture. He didn't tolerate dissenting voices, he didn't tolerate challenges to his 'divine authority'. He had dissenters killed or exiled so he could steal their property. Jihadists today can merely claim they are following his example.

Keeping any sided history aside, you are absolutely mistaken brother.

 

[serp777]

When you say "claim this nonsense" you have already disregarded 'this' as nonsense. Whats the point? If you think so, you must prove it. At least one point. Otherwise you are just laying down insults, nothing more.

You're just shifting the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on the OP for making the claim that there are no mistakes in the Quran. And yes I have disregarded his claim as nonsense since no proof was provided. Furthermore there are many websites that list the many contradictions in holy books. Take here, for example:

https://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm

 

[firedragon]

You're just shifting the burden of proof. The burden of proof is on the OP for making the claim that there are no mistakes in the Quran. And yes I have disregarded his claim as nonsense since no proof was provided. Furthermore there are many websites that list the many contradictions in holy books. Take here, for example:

https://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm

You agree with all the points in it?

Can you pick one that you are 100% sure about and then point that out as your evidence for your claim? If not, to me, this is just paying lip service, no offense.

 

[serp777]

You agree with all the points in it?

Can you pick one that you are 100% sure about and then point that out as your evidence for your claim? If not, to me, this is just paying lip service, no offense.

Again, the burden of proof is on you or the op to show that there are no mistakes in the Quran. Until its been demonstrated to be true, its a nonsensical claim to make. Just like the existence of the tooth fairy is a nonsensical claim to make without proof. i was just showing you that there are websites which show that there are contradictions in the Quran. But i'm almost positive that you'll question translations if I pick a particular one. Anyways, I'm not going to spend time making a particular argument just because you shifted the burden of proof inappropriately. I won't reward your fallacy. If you cite some source showing the Quran to be flawless, then i'll find counter examples.

 

[firedragon]

Again, the burden of proof is on you or the op to show that there are no mistakes in the Quran. Until its been demonstrated to be true, its a nonsensical claim to make. Just like the existence of the tooth fairy is a nonsensical claim to make without proof. i was just showing you that there are websites which show that there are contradictions in the Quran. But i'm almost positive that you'll question translations if I pick a particular one. Anyways, I'm not going to spend time making a particular argument just because you shifted the burden of proof inappropriately. I won't reward your fallacy. If you cite some source showing the Quran to be flawless, then i'll find counter examples.

Of course I will pick translations. At least I do that while you point to third party work which you probably dont have a clue about in any depth.

You can say all kind of things brother, but when you say something, you must as a decent person back it up. There have been many discussions throughout this thread, if you expect someone to again point out an exegesis it will not happen.

There have been a few posts in this thread that fulfills your desire. Why dont you refute one point but make an honest analysis. Whatever it is.

 

[serp777]

Of course I will pick translations. At least I do that while you point to third party work which you probably dont have a clue about in any depth.

You can say all kind of things brother, but when you say something, you must as a decent person back it up. There have been many discussions throughout this thread, if you expect someone to again point out an exegesis it will not happen.

There have been a few posts in this thread that fulfills your desire. Why dont you refute one point but make an honest analysis. Whatever it is.

No where in this thread has anyone included a proof, based on propositional logic, that shows that the Quran has no mistakes. It simply has not been done because that would be too much work. You're simply assuming it has no mistakes; you couldn't possibly know it has no mistakes unless you've done the full logical analysis. Therefore, the claim is complete and utter nonsense.

Of course I will pick translations. At least I do that while you point to third party work which you probably dont have a clue about in any depth.

What you mean is play semantics games and then claim that people can't argue with you because they don't read arabic and rely on translations from others. And of course, we're supposed to take your word of translations over somebody else's. To make matters worse, the words are often ambiguous and are subject to interpretation and context. But okay, never mind the fallacy of you shifting the burden of proof, ill get an example.

H

The very first revelation starts out with providing an ingredient for contradiction:



Proclaim!
In the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, who created -
created man, out of a mere clot of congealed blood.
-- Sura 96:1-2
Apart from the fact that "a mere blood clot" is scientifically wrong, let us see what further ideas the Qur'an presents on how God creates human beings.



It is he who has created man from water
-- Sura 25:54
And God has created every living creature from water.
-- Sura 24:45

We created man from sounding clay,
from mud moulded into shape.
-- Sura 15:26

Amongst his signs is this,
that he created you from dust.
-- Sura 30:20

Blood clot? water? clay? dust? The Qur'an doesn't really seem all that sure what God used and seems to imply that He took just anything he could get his hands on. But this is still not all in this confusion:



God createth what He willeth:
When he hath decreed a plan,
He but saith to it, "Be," and it is!
-- Sura 3:47

Sura 19:67 says

But does not man call to mind that We created him before out of nothing?

So the Quran can't seem to make its mind up. But lets hear all of the doubts on these translations, although im going to reject your translations unless you have some evidence demonstrating your authority on translations. maybe if you find another source.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Keeping any sided history aside, you are absolutely mistaken brother.

In what way? And we're not brothers in any way - religious or physical. Please don't call me that.

 

[firedragon]

No where in this thread has anyone included a proof, based on propositional logic, that shows that the Quran has no mistakes. It simply has not been done because that would be too much work. You're simply assuming it has no mistakes; you couldn't possibly know it has no mistakes unless you've done the full logical analysis. Therefore, the claim is complete and utter nonsense.



What you mean is play semantics games and then claim that people can't argue with you because they don't read arabic and rely on translations from others. And of course, we're supposed to take your word of translations over somebody else's. To make matters worse, the words are often ambiguous and are subject to interpretation and context. But okay, never mind the fallacy of you shifting the burden of proof, ill get an example.

H


So the Quran can't seem to make its mind up. But lets hear all of the doubts on these translations, although im going to reject your translations unless you have some evidence demonstrating your authority on translations. maybe if you find another source.

Ok. Cheers.

 

[firedragon]

In what way? And we're not brothers in any way - religious or physical. Please don't call me that.

Brother was because you are human.

Apologies for taking liberties.

Peace.

 

[Shad]

Nope. Laraba and daraba are the same. You can keep saying this, but it only shows your arrogance.

You made a point that these were different as a defense to one view then shift your view when it helped.

I did not study arabic in English. Thus, when I transliterate that is my own. And you say no one supports it, lol you mean support a transliteration?

Easy, the support of experts.

 

[Shad]

Whats this?

Someone was making this claim: "U were speaking to a scholar. A Phd in theology and a scholar of classical Arabic" I assumed this was about you since it was only my second interaction with that user while you and I have had a discussion going back and forth for awhile now.

 

[firedragon]

Someone was making this claim: "U were speaking to a scholar. A Phd in theology and a scholar of classical Arabic" I assumed this was about you since it was only my second interaction with that user while you and I have had a discussion going back and forth for awhile now.

I am really sorry. I mostly only see when a quote appears on the alerts tab on top. I didnt go through earlier posts.

 

[Jabar]

@paarsurrey @firedragon @A Greased Scotsman These are indeed misconceptions made by society today. I challenge you to point out one error that is not a misconception. Quran has no errors, it is divine.

 

[Shad]

I am really sorry. I mostly only see when a quote appears on the alerts tab on top. I didnt go through earlier posts.

This was the post

Mate. U were speaking to a scholar. A Phd in theology and a scholar of classical Arabic.
Strawman, post hoc, established translations, ignorant examples, tis all U have.

I have no idea who this reference to a scholar of classical Arabic and doctorate in theology is referring to beside yourself. It wasn't codex since he used a past-tense so I went with my assumption. If this claim does not apply to you no need to bother yourself.

 

[Jabar]

@ A Greased Scotsman Islam does not encourage killing of non-muslims. It is only used against aggressors when they try to harm you and kill you. Self Defense. "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).
§7: “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

 

[firedragon]

@paarsurrey @firedragon @A Greased Scotsman These are indeed misconceptions made by society today. I challenge you to point out one error that is not a misconception. Quran has no errors, it is divine.

In what way? And we're not brothers in any way - religious or physical. Please don't call me that.

ISLAM – RELIGION OF PEACE OR TYRANNY


Tyranny - arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority


Peace - the normal, nonwarring condition of a nation, group of nations, or the world


Submission – Submissive conduct or attitude


Above are three definitions that I picked up for the truth this piece will cover. The world indeed is not in a very good place but we human beings living in this scientific world could do a scientific analysis of what we call “faith”.

It is time that all of us who are for and against the ISIS to know the reality and the truth behind it all. This writing will not cover the political aspects, history of these movements but rather discuss the theological basis they stand with and the sheer hypocrisy of it all.

Muslims world over have begun movements voicing against the tyrannical and murderous movements such as ISIS but most of them are very quick to say that their ideas don't have anything to do with Islam, me having been one. But you must understand that they call themselves Muslims, their oath or the Shahadha is most probably the same as yours, and they say Allahu Akbar (God is great) in the face of good things as well as executions, beheading's and genocide.

There are various and varying reports from all over the world that youth and families from very secular countries have migrated to the ISIL to live, breed, fight and die with and within that ideology. Where does the fuel for the effort of planning and execution of the migration come from? Have you ever pondered? Do you still deny that there cannot be any substantial reasoning for this? Well, there is. This piece will try and show you the traditions that fueled it, and the hypocrisy against the true theology that theocracy has hijacked.

Is Islam a religion of Tyranny? If that is the case why would the phrase Islam mean peace and submission? The word Islam has two key meanings, Submission and Peace. Being called to be Submissive and Peaceful how could Muslims go about killing people who are assessed to speak a different creed? What is the justification? There seems to be a huge blunder someone has committed and we are all just paying lip service without digging a bit to find why. Those who call themselves Muslims must understand what it is first, also those who call themselves non Muslims must also understand why, if not the generalisations, polarisations and the escape strategies will keep moving forward while our children and neighbours will have field days with this theocracy in the very near future.

Theology vs Theocracy

Theology in a few words is the understanding of Theos (God or Divinity in Greek) and the answers to questions like who is God, what is his nature etc while the most pertinent question being "How do we behave in life". Theocracy in a nutshell is trying to go back in time and take away the current leaderships and systems to make the world or a part of it in your ideological geographical definition a state ruled by religious law defined by your religious leaders. Theocracy maybe the most hurting problem in the world today, though they go hand in hand, theology maybe the only rescue stratagem, if understood, thus this attempt that may bring a lot of flack.

World over the media has since a few decades ago, been portraying Islam as a war mongering, totalitarian religion. The irony is Muslims maybe the cause of it. It has been over 1400 years since the exalted prophet Muhammed gave the world the book that is supposed to be the Furqan or the criterion. Touch your heart and think if you actually follow it. Do you know it? Do you quote it out of context? Iqra, read.

JIHAD – HOLY WAR
Have you ever heard of parents waging holy war against their own children?

And we enjoined man regarding his parents. His mother bore him with hardship upon hardship, and his weaning takes two years. You shall give thanks to me, and to your parents. To me is the final destiny. If they (Jihad) strive to make you set up any partners besides me, then do not obey them. But continue to treat them amicably in this world. You shall follow only the path of those who have sought Me. Ultimately, you all return to me, then I will inform you of everything you have done. – Quran 31:14-15

Jihad means to strive or go forward with perseverance. If it means Holy war, the above verse will look silly to have parents waging holy war against their children.

And we will test you for we know those who (Jihad) strive among you and those who are patient. And we will bring out your qualities. – Quran 47:31

Try replacing the word Strive with Holy war and understand to yourself how insane it will sound. Jihad or Jahada means to strive and no verse in the Quran portrays it as a Holy war. But it is the world that has changed the word to mean something it was not originally meant to be. There are many words that has changed meaning overtime but when you read a book written 1400 years ago you must render it by the original meaning. Quran being the criterion, war is not an Islamic personality and Jihad certainly does not mean Holy War.


WHAT WOULD BE A PEACEFUL, SUBMISSIVE THEOLOGY

Well, it definitely would not be a country that allows the neighbor to plunder your country. But it would not be an Aggressor.

That’s what Islam is.

AND KILL THEM WHEREVER YOU ENCOUNTER THEM – QURAN 2:191

Untruthful are those who use this little fragment of the Quran to show that Quran teaches murder and war. It is a deceitful strategy and anyone who quotes a little part of any book, completely out of context is an utter and complete hypocrite. The minor context of this quotation

And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not aggress, God does not love the aggressors. And kill them wherever you encounter them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. And do not fight them at the Restricted Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then kill them, thus is the recompense of the rejecters. And if they cease, then God is Forgiving, Merciful. And fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is for God. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked. -Quran 2:190-193

You can see that the Quran does not tell you to be the victim but it establishes that you must not be the aggressor. You are allowed to fight back if someone aggressively fights with you. But even then, you are asked to forgive and cease fighting if the enemy seizes his fight. You are allowed to fight only until the persecution stops.

You must fight if someone is weak, being persecuted and are oppressed.

And why do you not fight in the cause of God, when the weak among the men and women and children say: “Our Lord, bring us out of this town whose people are wicked, and grant us from yourself a Supporter, and grant us from yourself a Victor!” - Quran 4:75


TERRORISM, SUICIDE BOMBERS AND KILLING THE INNOCENT

The Quran clearly commands no innocent death must occur. Killing an innocent is like killing the whole of humanity.

It is because of this that we have decreed for the Children of Israel: “Anyone who kills a person who has not committed murder, or who has not committed corruption in the land; then it is as if he has killed all the people! And whoever spares a life, then it is as if he has given life to all the people.” Our messengers had come to them with clarities, but many of them are, after this, still corrupting on the Earth. – Quran 5:32

It is a very elementary accusation that Islam has tyrannical laws and fundamentalism is looked down upon like a plague. Above are some fundamentals of Islam and proves that fundamentalism is a good thing. But some fanatics (Involved in sheer murder and those who generalise) will use them out of context. The claim that Islam allows you to randomly assassinate people or groups of people due to their creed is false and is clearly shown. The Quran teaches that you cannot kill unless the recipient has committed murder. Punishment to one person cannot exceed their crime.

CORRUPTION IN THE LAND – AN EXCUSE TO KILL ANYONE??

When the Quran is quoted in this manner it is average response by many who like to oppose, that the Quran says "or who has not committed corruption in the land" can be killed and you can interpret this corruption to be anything. E.g. a man slanders you and he has committed corruption in the land and you can kill him. Even the famous Islam Reform proponent Irshad Manji quotes this verse to show that Muslims have an excuse to commit atrocities based on this interpretation. The Quran gives examples that people with brains to reflect upon. It is a book, Not some 6k+ verses, each to be taken in completely individual context. What is corruption in the land? The Quran gives an example as follows.

And in the city were nine ruffians who were causing corruption in the land, and they were not reforming. They said: “Swear by God to one another that we will attack him and his family at night, and we will then say to his supporters: “We did not witness who murdered his family, and we are being truthful” – Quran 27:48-49

It has the phrase "Aw fasadhin fil ardhi" & "Yufsidhoona fil ardhi" or "corruption in the land" of which the example is "murdering in the name of God". They say to one another that they Swear by God about attacking and killing a family at night. This is taken as committing corruption in the land, which ironically is what these radical groups are doing. Their own God, in their own scripture says that he schemes against them.

And they schemed a scheme and we schemed a scheme, while they did not notice. – Quran 27:50

It is a challenge for the likes of Irshad Manji, with all due respect, to please dig a little deeper.

Humans are not even allowed to seek reward or a thank you note for assisting someone, forget waging war on innocents or be the cause of an innocent human being death.

“We only feed you seeking the face of God; we do not desire from you any reward or thanks.” – Quran 76:9

 

[firedragon]

Well wouldn't anyone wonder "where they got their war mongering ideology from"?

Its in the year 632 the prophet Muhammed died. Centuries after his death there emerged scholars who collected stories attributed to the prophet using sciences to analyse and authenticate what stories were authentic and not. When these were documented by famous scholars like Imam Bukhari, it was eight generations later taking that a generation lasts 30 years. These stories were handed down or told to one another transmitted through eight generations.

This is where they get it from, or rather where they find the cauldren to cook up their own murderous ideology.

Martyrdom

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)."

Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah's Cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it. A place in Paradise as small as the bow or lash of one of you is better than all the world and whatever is in it. And if a houri from Paradise appeared to the people of the earth, she would fill the space between Heaven and the Earth with light and pleasant scent and her head cover is better than the world and whatever is in it." - Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:53

Jihad

It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite. 'Abdullah b. Mubarak said: We think the hadith pertained to the time of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) - Sahih Muslim, 20:4696

Murdering those who don't follow your creed

Narrated Anas ibn Malik:

Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have." - Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:8:387

Fight in the last hadith quoted is Fee Sabeelillah which actually is work for God, many have translated it as Fee Sabeelillah, well nevertheless, these are excellent playing fields for the practice and building of ISIL/Boko Haram and similar looney goons.

Though I do not wish to discuss the science of authentication etc, there is a concept called Mutawathir which means mass communicated stories. More people say it, the more authentic it is.

"I have been commanded to fight people until they say 'there is no God but Allah (the God)'"

There are many more stories like this.

But how could one not see that these contradict the book you call the "Criterion" or "Furqan"? A criterion is the yardstick, why would you measure the yardstick with the cloth? Evidence shows that all of these stories contradict the Quran and one must decide which should be taken as the measurement. But we must also understand that this is the premise most use for their agenda and as a people living in a scientific world we must read, understand and transmit what we read. These contradict your Quran and must be thrown out of the theology you believe. Islam is Peace, we Muslims are the problem.

THEN WHATS THE HYPOCRISY

Hypocrisy is when you have a yardstick and you measure the yardstick with the cloth.

TRUE TEACHINGS IN THE QURAN

Reading a book like a manthra is idiotic unless you follow what you read. Again, Igra. Read!

17:36 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and mind, all these you are responsible for.

Freedom of Creed
10:99 And had your Lord willed, all the people on the Earth in their entirety would have believed. Would you force the people to make them believe?

You cannot kill unjustly
17:33 And do not kill, for God has made this forbidden, except in the course of justice. And whoever is killed innocently, then We have given his heir authority, so let him not transgress in the taking of a life, for He will be given victory.

Just cause to kill is aggression, but you are not allowed to be the aggressor.

2:190 And fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress, God does not like the aggressors.
2:191 And kill them wherever you overcome them, and expel them from where they expelled you, and know that persecution is worse than being killed. And do not fight them at the Sacred Temple unless they fight you in it; if they fight you then kill them, thus is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192 And if they cease, then God is Forgiving, Merciful.
2:193 And fight them so there is no more persecution, and so that the system is God’s. If they cease, then there will be no aggression except against the wicked.


Respect for individual privacy
24:27 O you who believe, do not enter any homes except your own unless you are invited and you greet the people in them. This is best for you, perhaps you will remember.

Equality
49:12 O you who believe, you shall avoid much suspicion, for some suspicion is sinful. And do not spy on one another, nor shall you backbite. Would any of you enjoy eating the flesh of his dead brother? You certainly would hate this. You shall observe God. God is Redeemer, Merciful.
49:13 O mankind, We created you from a male and female, and We made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely, the most honorable among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

Welfare
30:38 So give the relative his due, and the poor, and the wayfarer. That is best for those who seek God's presence, and they are the successful ones.

No Usury
30:39 And any usury you have taken to grow from the people's money, it will not grow with God. And any contribution that you have placed seeking His presence, then those will be multiplied. 3:130 O you who believe, do not consume usury, compounding over and over; and reverence God that you may succeed.

Right to travel
29:56 "O My servants who believed, My Earth is spacious, so serve only Me."

No eternal/perpetual circulation of wealth (No Monopolization)
59:7 And whatever God provided to His messenger from the people of the townships, then it shall be to God and His messenger, and the relatives, and the orphans, and the poor, and the wayfarer. Thus, it will not remain perpetual circulation by the rich among you. And you may take what the messenger gives you, but do not take what he withholds you from taking. And be aware of God, for God is mighty in retribution.

''My four children will one day live in a nation, when they will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character'' - Martin Luther King

No racism
49:13 O mankind, We created you from a male and female, and We made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely, the most honorable among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.

No false slander.
But you can stand up for your rights 148. Allah does not love the public mention of evil words, except by the one who has been wronged. And Allah is All-Hearing, All- Knowing.

ustice
42:39 And those who, when gross injustice befalls them, they seek justice.

Right to demand justice
42:41 And for any who demand action after being wronged, those are not committing any error.

No oppression.
42:42 The error is upon those who oppress the people, and they aggress in the land without cause. For these will be a painful retribution.

Right to borrowed property
4:58 God orders you to deliver anything you have been entrusted with to its owners. And if you judge between the people, then you shall judge with justice. It is always the best that God prescribes for you. God is Hearer, Seer.

Do not harm the environment
55:7 And He raised the heaven and He established the balance. 55:8 Do not transgress in the balance.

Innocence until proven guilty
24:11 Those who have brought forth the false accusation were a group from within you. Do not think it is bad for you, for it is good for you. Every person among them will have what he deserves of the sin. And as for he who had the greatest portion of it, he will have a great retribution.

Punishment cannot exceed the gravity of the crime
16:126 And if you punish, then punish with equivalence to that which you were punished. And if you are patient then it is better for the patient ones.

You must fight on behalf of the weak
4:75 And why do you not fight in the cause of God, when the weak among the men and women and children say: “Our Lord, bring us out of this town whose people are wicked, and grant us from Yourself a Supporter, and grant us from Yourself a Victor!”

Charities to be used for just cause
9:60 The charities are to go to the poor, and the needy, and those who work to collect them, and those whose hearts have been united, and to free the slaves, and those in debt, and in the cause of God, and the wayfarer. A duty from God, and God is Knowledgeable, Wise.


Peace.

 

[firedragon]

Greet people well

And if you are greeted with a greeting, then return an even better greeting or return the same. God is Reckoning over all things - Quran 4:86

Humility

And be humble in how you walk and lower your voice. For the harshest of all voices is the voice of the donkeys. - Quran 31:19

Invite to your path with wisdom and good advice

Invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and good advice, and argue with them in that which is better. Your Lord is fully aware of who is misguided from His path, and He is fully aware of the guided ones. - Quran 16:125

Kindness to parents

And your Lord decreed that you shall not serve except He, and do good to your parents. When one of them or both of them reach old age, do not say to them a word of disrespect nor shout at them, but say to them a kind saying. And lower for them the wing of humility through mercy, and say: ‘My Lord, have mercy upon them as they have raised me when I was small. - Quran 17:23-24

Speak well with good words

Have you not seen how God puts forth the example that a good word is like a good tree, whose root is firm and whose branches are in the heaven. It bears its fruit every so often with the permission of its Lord; and God puts forth the examples for the people, perhaps they will remember. - Quran 14:24-25

Do not speak with bad words

And the example of a bad word is like a tree which has been uprooted from the surface of the earth, it has nowhere to settle. - Quran 14:26

Patience and mercy

And race towards forgiveness from your Lord and a Paradise whose width encompasses the width of the heavens and of the earth; it has been prepared for the righteous. The ones who spend in prosperity and adversity, and who repress anger, and who pardon the people; God loves the good doers. - Quran 3:133-134

Practice goodness against your enemy

Not equal are the good and the bad response. You shall resort to the one which is better. Thus, the one who used to be your enemy, may become your best friend. - Quran 41:34

Do not be arrogant or insolent

And do not turn your cheek arrogantly from people, nor shall you roam the earth insolently. For God does not love the arrogant show off. - Quran 31:18

Humility and wisdom

And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they say: ‘Peace. - Quran 25:63

Don’t insult those of other religions. Do not play God.

And do not insult those who call on other than God, lest they insult God out of ignorance. And We have similarly adorned for every nation their works; then to their Lord is their return and He will inform them of what they had done. - Quran 6:108

Do not mock others

O you who believe, let not a people ridicule other people, for they may be better than they. Nor shall any women ridicule other women, for they may be better than they. Nor shall you mock one another, or call each other names; miserable indeed is the name of wickedness after attaining faith. And anyone who does not repent, then these are the transgressors.” - Quran 49:11

Do not practice suspicion and backbiting

O you who believe, you shall avoid much suspicion, for some suspicion is sinful. And do not spy on one another, nor shall you backbite. Would any of you enjoy eating the flesh of his dead brother? You certainly would hate this. You shall observe God. God is Redeemer, Merciful. - Quran 49:12

No racism

O mankind, We created you from a male and female, and We made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Surely, the most honourable among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is Knowledgeable, Expert.” - Quran 49:13

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

@paarsurrey @firedragon @A Greased Scotsman These are indeed misconceptions made by society today. I challenge you to point out one error that is not a misconception. Quran has no errors, it is divine.

Okay. Here are six.

1) [25.53] And He it is Who has made two seas to flow freely, the one sweet that subdues thirst by its sweetness, and the other salt that burns by its saltness; and between the two He has made a barrier and inviolable obstruction.

Salt & fresh water do meet and do mix - albeit very slowly. Others have actually brought up this verse before and it has been explained how it is incorrect. Salt water & fresh water can & do mix together - just very slowly because invariably there's not a lot of motion (required for mixing).

2) [18:83-86] And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people.

The sun does not set in a pool of water, nor on any fixed point actually on the Earth's surface.

3) [71:15-16] See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another, And made the moon a light in their midst, and made the sun as a (Glorious) Lamp?

The Moon emits no light of its own; it only reflects light from the Sun.

4) [50:38] We created the heavens and the earth and all between them in Six Days, nor did any sense of weariness touch Us.

Young Earth Creationism (the name of the 'Earth created in 6 days by a god' position) flies in the face of all testable geological evidence.

5) [15:26] We created man from sounding clay, from mud molded into shape;

Humanity did not appear from mud - we evolved from a common ancestor shared with (other) modern primate species. The fossil record clearly indicates this.

6) [7:189] "He it is Who created you from a single being, and of the same (kind) did He make his mate,"

The Quran (like Genesis in the Bible) would have us believe all of humanity is descended from a mated pair consisting of a genetically identical brother & sister.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

§7: “Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

Why don't you quote the verse in its entirety?

"Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors."

This verse is not from the Torah - it's from rabbinical commentary on the Talmud. It was written by Jews, for Jews. Further, it's written in the past tense which means it was aimed at an audience that predated the Quran.

Look, it'd be great if you were right about that verse - if Muslim countries applied and the other verses you've quoted to their minority populations (be it Muslim or non-Muslim) but they don't. The world would be a better place if you were right. But the sad thing is the actions of Muslims in countries like Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq or Saudi Arabia show that you're not.