There is more then enough evidence to prove God exists.

[Serenity7855]

No, you definitely said it. Its literally right there above me, go ahead and read it. One of your major problems is your own inability to get what you are saying across, and then blaming it on the evil Atheists instead of just being sensible.

You celebrate the victory whilst your enemy still stands. There is nothing worse to make you look ridiculous to your peers. You make it sound nonsensical when it is perfectly logical. That just makes you look intellectually redundant. Just a cursory look at the definition of the word omniscient on google will dismiss your counter arguments efficiently and without expending to much energy in the process.

Omniscience /ɒmˈnɪʃəns/,[1] mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know.

Omniscience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not even God can know something that cannot be known or have dominion of that which does not exist. Common sense tells you that, whether you are a theist or atheist. .

You are arguing that laws of the Universe somehow transcend God. You are doing this to help your argument in order to prove God was stainless when he murdered someone, because of something you said earlier. Would probably be easier to just admit you were wrong.

God cannot murder anyone. It is an impossibility. He is perfect. As soon as he looses that perfection, he ceases to exist. I am not wrong or making this up. It is all an integral part of the plan of salvation which has converted me to a Christian. However, let be tell you about what you have just done. You have just demonstrated that my statement about the duplicitous and deceitful nature of the antitheists is true. You are discrediting my integrity in order to cast aspersions on my argument. It is called ad hominem, and you are guilty as charged. Naughty, naughty. When a society becomes that wicked the consequences are predetermined. The same will happen again to our society. People like yourself are assisting in its progress and maybe sooner then we think, the bridegroom will come.

 

[Bunyip]

You celebrate the victory whilst your enemy still stands. There is nothing worse to make you look ridiculous to your peers. You make it sound nonsensical when it is perfectly logical. That just makes you look intellectually redundant. Just a cursory look at the definition of the word omniscient on google will dismiss your counter arguments efficiently and without expending to much energy in the process.

Omniscience /ɒmˈnɪʃəns/,[1] mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know.

Omniscience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not even God can know something that cannot be known or have dominion of that which does not exist. Common sense tells you that, whether you are a theist or atheist. .



God cannot murder anyone. It is an impossibility. He is perfect. As soon as he looses the perfection he ceases to exist. I am not wrong or making this up. It is all an integral part of the plan of salvation which has converted me to a Christian. However, let be tell you about what you have just done. You have just demonstrated that my statement about the duplicitous and deceitful nature of the antitheists is true. You are discrediting my integrity in order to cast aspersions on my argument. It is called ad hominem, and you are guilty as charged. Naughty, naughty. When a society becomes that wicked the consequences are predetermined. The same will happen again to our society. People like yourself are assisting in its progress and maybe sooner then we think, the bridegroom will come.

Then please state what crime a small child could have commited to warrant death? If as you say, all of the inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorrah were not murdered - of what crime can a toddler be justly sentenced to death?

 

[Serenity7855]

Then please state what crime a small child could have commited to warrant death? If as you say, all of the inhabitants of Soddom and Gomorrah were not murdered - of what crime can a toddler be justly sentenced to death?

Being possessed with many evil spirits making death more acceptable then life. Interesting. How you use the word "toddler" to imply innocence and therefore suggest that God killed innocent children. An atheist technique, no doubt. These children were riddled with evil spirit making them abominable and evil.

 

[Bunyip]

Being possessed with many evil spirits making death more acceptable then life.

Why not cure them? If they are possesed by evil spirits, they are innocent.

How does that justify murdering them?

 

[Bunyip]

Being possessed with many evil spirits making death more acceptable then life.

You actually believe that a three year old being possesed is a crime?
Why not cure them? If they are possesed by evil spirits, they are innocent.

How does that justify murdering them?

 

[Serenity7855]

You actually believe that a three year old being possesed is a crime?
Why not cure them? If they are possesed by evil spirits, they are innocent.

How does that justify murdering them?

Yep, as I thought you would do. Paint a picture of a cute little toddler with an innocent face and then say that God killed these children for no reason. You are an open book. Totally predictable. All antitheists come up with exactly the same ploy to make a perfect being look filthy. But these children were not dissimilar to Regan MacNeil on the exercist. How Sweet and innocent was she. Your rebuttal is dishonest and deceptive.

 

[Bunyip]

Yep, as I thought you would do. Paint a picture of a cute little toddler with an innocent face and then say that God killed these children for no reason. You are an open book. Totally predictable. Al, antitheists come up with exactly the same ploy to make a perfect being look filthy. But these children were not dissimilar to Regan MacNeil on the exercist. How Sweet and innocent was she. Your rebuttal is dishonest and deceptive.

Wow mate! Your hypocrisy is breathtaking - you have just posted a long whinge to Blackdog complaining about ad hominem attacks and then launch one yourself when you can not answer an honest and polite question.

You make yourself look like a fourth rate con artist.

Your invention that all of the kids in Soddom and Gomorrah were possesed by demons is not even close to what the bible actually condemns those cities for by the way. And that you think my painting toddlers as innocents is 'dishonest and deceptive', whilst you just painted them as a character from the Exorcist was frankly laughable.

Oh and by the way - in the Exorcist the priests risk their lives to save the possesed girl, they do not murder her.

 

[Serenity7855]

Wow mate! Your hypocrisy is breathtaking - you have just posted a long whinge to Blackdog complaining about ad hominem attacks and then launch one yourself when you can not answer an honest and polite question.

I complained to Blackdog about his ad hominem because that is exactly what it was. I was not lying or deceiving anyone, I was being honest and up front, at the same time as returning the sentiment. People in glass houses, and all that.

You make yourself look like a fourth rate con artist.

How is that then.

Your invention that all of the kids in Soddom and Gomorrah were possesed by demons is not even close to what the bible actually condemns those cities for by the way. And that you think my painting toddlers as innocents is 'dishonest and deceptive', whilst you just painted them as a character from the Exorcist was frankly laughable.

I did not say that "all" of the kids in Soddom and Gomorrah were possesed by demon. You are misrepresenting me again. You asked me what could the children have done to warrant being killed. I gave you an example of what they could have done, however, no one knows as the bible doesn't tell us.

The old testaments does not say a lot of things but historians and archaeologists makes up for what is missing. The children were sufficiently wicked to warrant their removal. As they are children they are not held accountable for their transgressions, so, they would go straight to the highest Kingdom in heaven. That is a blessing not a cruel act. It is their parents who were punished because of their wickedness. So wicked that nature removed them from off the face of our planet.

Oh and by the way - in the Exorcist the priests risk their lives to save the possesed girl, they do not murder her.

Oh, with the flood, Noah tried to save the inhabitants of these two wicked cities and begged them to change their way. He risked his life and was stoned and beaten for his efforts. Seems like both stories are very similar.

Genesis 5:32-10:1

The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

 

[Bunyip]

I complained to Blackdog about his ad hominem because that is exactly what it was. I was not lying or deceiving anyone, I was being honest and up front, at the same time as returning the sentiment. People in glass houses, and all that.


How is that then.



I did not say that "all" of the kids in Soddom and Gomorrah were possesed by demon. You are misrepresenting me again. You asked me what could the children have done to warrant being killed. I gave you an example of what they could have done, however, no one knows as the bible doesn't tell us.

The old testaments does not say a lot of things but historians and archaeologists makes up for what is missing. The children were sufficiently wicked to warrant their removal. As they are children they are not held accountable for their transgressions, so, they would go straight to the highest Kingdom in heaven. That is a blessing not a cruel act. It is their parents who were punished because of their wickedness. So wicked that nature removed them from off the face of our planet.


Oh, with the flood, Noah tried to save the inhabitants of these two wicked cities and begged them to change their way. He risked his life and was stoned and beaten for his efforts. Seems like both stories are very similar.

Genesis 5:32-10:1

The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

At this point my friend I do not believe that you are truly aware of what you are saying, and forget from post to post what you have said.

You accused me of being dishonest and deceptive for characterising toddlers as innocents - when you were characterising them as the girl from the exorcist. If that actually made sense to you, you are beyond help.

As I have said to you before, get over this awful paranoia and persecution complex you bear in regard to imaginary 'militant atheists' and just apply more thought to your posts.

 

[Magic Man]

No, God didn't do that, mankind did it. They had been warned many times aver a long period of time to get their act together. The ignored the warning until they tipped the balance and the flood happened. The contravened a universal law of cause and effect. When society becomes that wicked then nature resolves it.

OK, you can argue that humans had it coming, if you want. But God sent the flood to kill almost everyone. He did it. Whether or not humans ignored warnings or were too wicked doesn't change that. You seem to think his actions were justified, but they were his actions. Once that is established you can try to rationalize a loving god killing millions of innocent humans.

 

[Serenity7855]

OK, you can argue that humans had it coming, if you want. But God sent the flood to kill almost everyone. He did it. Whether or not humans ignored warnings or were too wicked doesn't change that. You seem to think his actions were justified, but they were his actions. Once that is established you can try to rationalize a loving god killing millions of innocent humans.

No, it was the result of their action that the flood engulfed them. they had a choice. they choose not to heed the warnings. The law says that if you steel a car then you will go to prison. Is it, therefore, the prisons governor that is held accountable for your punishment or you for steeling the car. the comparison is the same. God is bound by universal law to cleanse the earth whenever it reaches a state like Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[McBell]

You celebrate the victory whilst your enemy still stands. There is nothing worse to make you look ridiculous to your peers. You make it sound nonsensical when it is perfectly logical. That just makes you look intellectually redundant. Just a cursory look at the definition of the word omniscient on google will dismiss your counter arguments efficiently and without expending to much energy in the process.

It is most interesting how you fail to see how this better applies to you in this thread than it applies to anyone else in this thread.

 

[outhouse]

No, it was the result of their action that the flood engulfed them. .

So you really believe in a global flood??????

Second time asked, im sure you will ignore this one as well.

Afraid of being recognized for what you actually believe?

 

[Serenity7855]

At this point my friend I do not believe that you are truly aware of what you are saying, and forget from post to post what you have said.

Again, that is your judgement of me and that is fine, it is your right. I know different

You accused me of being dishonest and deceptive for characterising toddlers as innocents - when you were characterizing them as the girl from the exorcist. If that actually made sense to you, you are beyond help.

Yes I did, and that is because I have been here dozens of times with other anti-theists. The behavior is predictable and expected, but more than that, it is dishonest. It turns a amicable and constructive discussion into a farce where trickery provides false reasoning created to distract from the original topic.

That you cannot perceive a society that has been so badly corrupted by Satan having children running around like Regan then you obviously have no ability to reason scenarios out in your mind.

As I have said to you before, get over this awful paranoia and persecution complex you bear in regard to imaginary 'militant atheists' and just apply more thought to your posts.

I genuinely do not feel persecuted, although anti-theists do persecute Christians. My testimony of God is strong enough to ward off the fiery darts of Satan. I genuinely believe that there is a small group of individuals within the larger group of atheists who are called either militant atheists or anti-theists. I am aware of them when I debate and find myself trying to be accurate in my spelling and grammar, as they use that is their ad hominem attacks, and I make sure that I have worded everything as accurately as I can because they dissect and discredit in an instant.

 

[outhouse]

God is bound by universal law to cleanse the earth whenever it reaches a state like Sodom and Gomorrah.

No justice what so ever?

Just murder the innocent children and animals, and then murder people any way he see's fit including torture

BUT, BUT, it will only be natural causes, so you cannot tell a deity had anything to do with it, and it will look just like any other natural catastrophe.

Or will exploit a previous disaster that really never happened to them at all. Which covers 99% of the time.

 

[Serenity7855]

So you really believe in a global flood??????

Second time asked, im sure you will ignore this one as well.

Afraid of being recognized for what you actually believe?

I answered it

 

[outhouse]

Oh, that is a different story. What do you mean by a global flood? Was it a metaphysical event or a naturalist event. I think the former.

Very vague at best.

Do you think your god killed people with a flood or not that devistated life????


is it mythology

 

[viole]

As they are children they are not held accountable for their transgressions, so, they would go straight to the highest Kingdom in heaven. That is a blessing not a cruel act.

Is killing very small children a blessing?

Ciao

- viole

 

[McBell]

As they are children they are not held accountable for their transgressions, so, they would go straight to the highest Kingdom in heaven. That is a blessing not a cruel act.

So it is better then to kill everyone while they are children, right?

 

[Serenity7855]

Is killing very small children a blessing?

Ciao

- viole

What about euthanasia, in the knowledge of a life hereafter, for tormented, evil, ignoble, demonic and devilish young humans who are in the depth of depravity, degeneracy and brutal servitude in exchange for a place in heaven.

It is not smart or clever to make it look like God is taking innocent suckling children from their mothers arms when in reality it is nothing like that. To do so is dishonest and deceptive. if you do not know the state of being of those children then say nothing rather then be belittled.