There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

[ElishaElijah]

Why on earth do you think first John is a gospel? Do you know nothing of your own beliefs?

Do you believe that scripture communicates the Gospel or not?

 

[Sheldon]

Why on earth do you think first John is a gospel? Do you know nothing of your own beliefs?

Oh oh oh, me me me, I know this one...

 

[ppp]

Do you believe that scripture communicates the Gospel or not?

You forgot to answer my question before asking your own.

 

[ppp]

Oh oh oh, me me me, I know this one...

Um. Okay. You, Sheldon. In the back.

 

[Sheldon]

Do you believe that scripture communicates the Gospel or not?

You know they were cobbled together with subjective bias over three centuries after the alleged events right, and the names assigned were fictional, and the earliest texts were in a foreign language, the very earliest of which was decades after the alleged events?

hearsay
noun

1. information received from other people which cannot be substantiated; rumour.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Many theists are trapped by their beliefs as well, since religions don't exactly make it easy for adherents to change their minds, but there are still courageous people who do.

The clergy project...

Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain - CEMB

I knew about the Clergy Project but not about the Council.

 

[Sheldon]

Policy said: ↑
Why on earth do you think first John is a gospel? Do you know nothing of your own beliefs?

Um. Okay. You, Sheldon. In the back.

Thank ye kindly sir.....like many theists he is parroting dogma, and has not submitted the claims to even a cursory examination, let alone an objective critical scrutiny.

 

[Sheldon]

Whether this was by natural process or magic, it is still life from non-life.

If only we had some objective evidence for one, and none for the other, we might be inclined to withhold belief in the latter type, until such objective evidence could be demonstrated...

Or use blind faith of course, that seems to be how many people roll....

 

[Sheldon]

However, any hypothesis based on natural processes is superior to a hypothesis based on magic, because we have mountains of evidence for natural processes but zero evidence for magic.

Eyefangew, @leroy pay attention<<<<<

 

[ppp]

Thank ye kindly sir.....like many theists he is parroting dogma, and has not submitted the claims to even a cursory examination, let alone an objective critical scrutiny.

Yes. He is talking out of his butt. An A for you.

 

[ElishaElijah]

You forgot to answer my question before asking your own.

In answering my question you will get your answer. Your comment didn’t make sense. Do you know what the Gospel is? Is it just Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

 

[Sheldon]

YoursTrue said: ↑
Glad you can see that as a possibility although it certainly makes me wonder how ANYONE would know what the first element in the universe was.
Except God and Jesus, of course. And maybe anyone else they desire to tell.

By your standards of evidence, how do you know god and Jesus exist at all?

Fay-eth?

 

[Subduction Zone]

In answering my question you will get your answer. Your comment didn’t make sense. Do you know what the Gospel is? Is it just Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

Okay word games. You should have made your meaning clear.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Okay word games. You should have made your meaning clear.

My answer was clear, Disciple John wrote John, 1John, 2John and 3John. He was an eyewitness. One of many

 

[Sheldon]

So you have a hypothesis ( this is by faith).

No, you either don't understand what religious faith is, or don't understand what an hypothesis means, or both of course. My money on the latter.

Then you look at what was already created by God as He said in Genesis,

Begging the question fallacy, now I'll bet my house that having made an unequivocally irrational claim, you will invoke logic at some point here.

So God is into variety and you call it natural selection.

Another begging the question fallacy, and you clearly have no clue what natural selection means.

Not following your logic.

Kerching, told ew... Whenever you use the word logic, I guarantee it is pure rhetoric, since you have no clue what it really means.

 

[Sheldon]

In answering my question you will get your answer. Your comment didn’t make sense. Do you know what the Gospel is? Is it just Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

Those are fictional names, you know that by now right?

Do I need to post the definition of hearsay again?

 

[Sheldon]

God is Eternal, this life came from Him.

Mermaids are not slippery, and they don't have scales.

Since we are just reeling off unevidenced claims.

 

[Sheldon]

My answer was clear, Disciple John wrote John, 1John, 2John and 3John. He was an eyewitness. One of many

Nope, neither the text of the gospel nor that of the letters bears John’s name, or any name. Second and Third John are from the pen of “the elder,” who is not identified. The letters and gospel are anonymous....

 

[YoursTrue]

If only we had some objective evidence for one, and none for the other, we might be inclined to withhold belief in the latter type, until such objective evidence could be demonstrated...

Or use blind faith of course, that seems to be how many people roll....

So of course do you think that life always existed? And non-life always existed? Come on, let us know what you think. subjective or otherwise.

 

[YoursTrue]

Nope, neither the text of the gospel nor that of the letters bears John’s name, or any name. Second and Third John are from the pen of “the elder,” who is not identified. The letters and gospel are anonymous....

Well, "Sheldon" says so, right?