Five Solas
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I was simply stating the obvious...
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There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?
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Five Solas
Active Member
Based on what evidence?
nPeace
Veteran Member
Well, I can understand how that can be somewhat confusing to others, since so many people claim to have faith in God, yet they have so many different beliefs about God, and some even fight and kill each other.
So, I wouldn't say it is quite as straightforward as that,
I do agree that ideas and opinions are the foundation of many beliefs, but that also includes having "faith in God", in most cases.
The foundation of faith, however, is not ideas, or opinions. So, maybe that's what you are referring to?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So am I. What is obvious to you might not be that to me and so in reverse.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Evidence? None, I have faith and faith alone.
Five Solas
Active Member
It is.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
And that is different to me as it is.
Five Solas
Active Member
I do not understand your position at all.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I am a strong general philosophical skeptic. In short, I only have faith/beliefs and they work for me. I accept you do it different and I accept that you don't accept that it works for me as different, but I do it anyway.
I disagree. Faith in any God is just like any other belief that is no more than opinion or ideas.
Obvious to you. Obviously false to others.
nPeace
Veteran Member
Isn't belief without evidence, merely belief? Some people refer to that as (blind) faith. For example, skeptics, but isn't that different to Christian faith... such as mentioned at Hebrews 11?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Including this: that there is an objective reality shared by all rational observers.
Philosophy of science - Wikipedia
Now, I do hold that opinion, idea, belief and I act with faith in it, but I have never been able to justify with reason, logic, truth, proof or evidence. But you already know that.
How is it different?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
It is not false to me. I know nothing about that. It is just different to me as I hold another belief.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You have blind faith in the end Hebrews 11 as I understand it. I am just honest and say that we both have different blind faiths.
I would never judge as for you worth as a human while claiming God. That I leave to God. I can only tell you and act on my my faith. But I don't know that my faith is the correct way to God. That is why it is faith.
Five Solas
Active Member
There is not much logic in your responses.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, it is about the fact that for the everyday world it is different beliefs.
Now if you have more than your faith, present it.
nPeace
Veteran Member
Different blind faiths... That took me by surprise.
So, would you say beliefs of scientists is another blind faith?
People see faith differently.
Religious people often think of faith as confidence based on a perceived degree of warrant while others who are more skeptical of religion tend to think of faith as simply belief without evidence.
If one believes something is true, based on evidence - very strong evidence, is this blind faith, in your view?