There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Can people get results other ways, seems like it.
God did for me in 5 minutes what I couldn’t do by first delivering me from my addictions, which enabled me to get to the root of why I drank and drugged to begin with by cleaning house and taking a moral inventory, making amends. This resulted in a clear conscience. Was born again and received Eternal Life and the power to change, live a godly life and also help people who are in a similar situation as I was.
I love God’s ways:


“Have you not known? Have you not heard? The everlasting God, the Lord, The Creator of the ends of the earth, Neither faints nor is weary. His understanding is unsearchable. He gives power to the weak, And to those who have no might He increases strength. Even the youths shall faint and be weary, And the young men shall utterly fall, But those who wait on the Lord Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:28-31‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

This is neither argument nor evidence.

In the first paragraph, you are making a claim that cannot stand up to any scrutiny. If you cannot say how God is supposed to have delivered, you cannot even legitimately claim that He did. This is just, "Oh, something happened I can't explain, so I guess God did it." No.

And in the second paragraph, you are merely preaching using scripture. It is evidence of nothing at all, except that somebody wrote a book called Isaiah once.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Indeed we are not, but clearly @ElishaElijah is, since it was not a scientific source he cited, but a creationist propaganda website.

Well you do believe the Bible is propaganda so…your comment is expected.

 

[ElishaElijah]

This is neither argument nor evidence.

In the first paragraph, you are making a claim that cannot stand up to any scrutiny. If you cannot say how God is supposed to have delivered, you cannot even legitimately claim that He did. This is just, "Oh, something happened I can't explain, so I guess God did it." No.

And in the second paragraph, you are merely preaching using scripture. It is evidence of nothing at all, except that somebody wrote a book called Isaiah once.

Except I have explained it so what don’t you understand?

 

[Sheldon]

We followers of Spinoza see our God in the wonderful order and lawfulness of all that exists and in its soul ("Beseeltheit") as it reveals itself in man and animal. It is a different question whether belief in a personal God should be contested. Freud endorsed this view in his latest publication. I myself would never engage in such a task. For such a belief seems to me preferable to the lack of any transcendental outlook of life, and I wonder whether one can ever successfully render to the majority of mankind a more sublime means in order to satisfy its metaphysical needs. (Einstein)

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
Einstein.

 

[Sheldon]

Well you do believe the Bible is propaganda so…your comment is expected.

That's a lie. Instead of creating endless straw man fallacies, why not address what I actually said for once? Like you citing a creationist website, using lies and propaganda and pretending this challenges the overwhelming archaeological evidence that falsifies the Exodus myth.

 

[Sheldon]

I believe you are correct. Evidence of God is not scientific evidence and never will be.

Now can you work out why that might be the case?

Clue for you, there is no scientific evidence for mermaids, or unicorns, or leprechauns or garden fairies etc etc etc..take your time...

Science isn't the standard for truth, it is just one tool to gain understanding,

Straw man fallacy, as it wasn't I cited science here, it was @Muffled ...I merely extrapolated his claim. You can't blame science for not finding unicorns...

 

[Sheldon]

Except I have explained it so what don’t you understand?

I imagine it's your inability to differentiate between a bare unevidenced claim, that has no explanatory powers whatsoever, because it is an appeal to mystery, and a genuine explanation.

 

[ElishaElijah]

That's a lie. Instead of creating endless straw man fallacies, why not address what I actually said for once? Like you citing a creationist website, using lies and propaganda and pretending this challenges the overwhelming archaeological evidence that falsifies the Exodus myth.

So you don’t think the Bible is propaganda and I must’ve misunderstood so what is the Bible to you?

 

[ElishaElijah]

I imagine it's your inability to differentiate between a bare unevidenced claim, that has no explanatory powers whatsoever, because it is an appeal to mystery, and a genuine explanation.

Whether it’s my inability or maybe some people just can’t grasp spiritual matters and to them it’s a mystery.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Science isn't the standard for truth, it is just one tool to gain understanding, just as religious scriptures are a different way of seeking truth.

I have never seen religious scriptures used in that fashion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well you do believe the Bible is propaganda so…your comment is expected.

It appears to be a mixture of myth and history. I don't think that propaganda is on the list. But it can be used for propaganda.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Straw man fallacy, as it wasn't I cited science here, it was @Muffled ...I merely extrapolated his claim. You can't blame science for not finding unicorns...

Fancy words again?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Whether it’s my inability or maybe some people just can’t grasp spiritual matters and to them it’s a mystery.

By "spiritual matters" do you mean wishful thinking?

 

[Spirit of Light]

I have never seen religious scriptures used in that fashion.

Scriptures are the "map" toward truth through spiritual practice.

 

[Spirit of Light]

By "spiritual matters" do you mean wishful thinking?

A spiritual practice or spiritual discipline (often including spiritual exercises) is the regular or full-time performance of actions and activities undertaken for the purpose of inducing spiritual experiences and cultivating spiritual development.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Scriptures are the "map" toward truth through spiritual practice.

How do you know that?

 

[Subduction Zone]

A spiritual practice or spiritual discipline (often including spiritual exercises) is the regular or full-time performance of actions and activities undertaken for the purpose of inducing spiritual experiences and cultivating spiritual development.

Hmm. Not helping too much. Still sounding like wishful thinking.

 

[ElishaElijah]

By "spiritual matters" do you mean wishful thinking?

No and see what I mean, you have no idea

 

[Subduction Zone]

No and see what I mean, you have no idea

Nor apparently do you.

Once again, if you know it, you can show it.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Nor apparently do you.

Once again, if you know it, you can show it.

Already did, I’m a changed man and God is the one who changed me. Adopted me into His family and calls me his child, gave me His Spirit and empowered me to live a holy life instead of an immoral life.