This is the Koran, what about the others

[Saint Frankenstein]

There is no original sin in Judaism, it's a Christian invention, along with Hell-Fire, that the Quran inherits and what happens to people who are 'lead astray' , they burn in hell, what happens to unbaptised people, they burn in hell. Christianity and Islam are the same religion, different script.

Okay, now you're just being silly. Islam has no notion of original sin. Get it? None. Zip. There is a notion of he'll, but not original sin. Get it now? Islam has more in common with Judaism than it does with Christianity. Christianity is the odd one out.

 

[herushura]

Islam as more in common with Christianity, Islam also as the excess Christian baggage, such as Mary, Jesus healing lepers and blind, rising to heaven and the second coming, Hell Fire, Dajal ( Devil ), Jinns (Demons) and Hijabs ( from Roman cult of Vesta)

And (Jesus) shall be a sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgement): Therefore have no doubt about the (Hour) but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.” (Az Zukhruf 43.61)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Jinns (Demons) and Hijabs ( from Roman cult of Vesta)

Jinn are not demons and hijabs are part of traditional attire of the region. Jewish women dressed much the same.

Sure, Islam has some similarities with Christianity since Jesus is recognized as a prophet but overall there is more in common with Judaism. There is an emphasis on strict unitarian monotheism, no salvation narrative (apart from general repentance), no original sin, circumcision is practiced, kosher is much the same as halal, etc.

 

[moon light]

I think we have moved away from the main idea

 

[herushura]

Jinn are not demons and hijabs are part of traditional attire of the region. Jewish women dressed much the same.

Why are they no Demons in the Old Testament?

The New Testament is full of Demons, Jesus exorcises demons, put's them inside pigs, then drowned them . How 'Jewish' of him.

The idea of Demons is Hellenistic, the product of Plato, that the Cult of Islam inherits, from it's proto-cult, the Cult Elagabalus, which is a merge of various cults, such as Vesta, hence the Hijab.

 

[columbus]

What does Catholicism have to do with Islam?

A great deal.
Both are Jewish heresies designed to appeal to the pagans of the place and time.
Christianity was designed to appeal to the Greco-Roman pagans. Islam was designed to appeal to the Arabic pagans.
And they both worked, for the purpose they were intended for. Empire!
Tom

 

[columbus]

I think we have moved away from the main idea

Happens a lot around here.
Tom

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

 

[herushura]

Catholics don't understand the 'ROMAN' part of Catholicism.

 

[Tumah]

If people ask where the god , tell them I'm close to them, just ask me and I'll answer them

What you do not understand

I do not understand who is being asked. You start off saying "if people ask where the god". Who are they asking? Other people? Are those other people supposed to tell them "ask god and he'll answer you" or are those other people supposed to ask god what to answer them?

The first part of the statement and the second part don't fit together.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Catholics don't understand the 'ROMAN' part of Catholicism.

 

[Tumah]

There is no original sin in Judaism, it's a Christian invention, along with Hell-Fire, that the Quran inherits and what happens to people who are 'lead astray' , they burn in hell, what happens to unbaptised people, they burn in hell. Christianity and Islam are the same religion, different script.

I think they meant to say that Islam is more like Judaism in that regard, not that Christianity is. "Islam doesn't believe in the notion of original sin. Its more like Judaism [in that regard]"

 

[Tumah]

kosher is much the same as halal

Kosher is actually significantly more complex than Halal actually, by a large margin. There are a few basic similarities in a few areas, but after that Judaism rockets into outer space. You'd be quite surprised.

 

[herushura]

I think they meant to say that Islam is more like Judaism in that regard, not that Christianity is. "Islam doesn't believe in the notion of original sin. Its more like Judaism [in that regard]"

There is one thing, the Curse of Ham.

Genesis 9:22
And he said, Cursed be Canaan

Canaanites punished for the sin of their father.

 

[moon light]

I do not understand who is being asked. You start off saying "if people ask where the god". Who are they asking? Other people? Are those other people supposed to tell them "ask god and he'll answer you" or are those other people supposed to ask god what to answer them?

The first part of the statement and the second part don't fit together.

Quran 1:186

Speak to the Prophet Muhammad

 

[Tumah]

There is one thing, the Curse of Ham.

Genesis 9:22
And he said, Cursed be Canaan

Canaanites punished for the sin of their father.

There is more than one thing: See Ex. 20:5 and Deut. 5:8. Children being punished for the sins of their fathers.

 

[Tumah]

Quran 1:186

Speak to the Prophet Muhammad

Yeah, I think you won on that one. I don't think any other holy books have a verse that says "speak to the prophet muhammad".

Incidentally, I think its interesting that you capitalize "prophet" and "muhammad" but not "god".

 

[moon light]

Yeah, I think you won on that one. I don't think any other holy books have a verse that says "speak to the prophet muhammad".

Incidentally, I think its interesting that you capitalize "prophet" and "muhammad" but not "god".

Speech addressed to the Prophet Muhammad
But the meaning is universal to any human being

Look for a translation because you have a big misunderstanding

 

[Raj V]

I will review some of the meanings found in the Koran
If your religion has a similar meaning, tell us
If your religion does not have that meaning - ask yourself why

1-If my slaves ask about me, then I will answer the question of the questioner if he asks me

The meaning
God says
If people ask where I am, tell them I'm close to them, just ask me and I'll answer them

Then why go to mecca?

 

[sun rise]

Allah drowned babies then set them on fire.

Quran 71:25
Because of their sins they were drowned, then made to enter a Fire. And they found they had no helpers in place of Allah.

It's the Quranic version of the Noah story. There is nothing about babies but about sinners and idol worshipers.
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