This is the Koran, what about the others

[sun rise]

Okay, now you're just being silly. Islam has no notion of original sin. Get it? None. Zip. There is a notion of he'll, but not original sin. Get it now? Islam has more in common with Judaism than it does with Christianity. Christianity is the odd one out.

I agree - even to the greeting. Shalom Aleichem and As-salāmu ʿalaykum - peace be unto you with the response, "upon you, peace". Both Judaism and Islam are strict monotheists with no notion of the three-in-one (trinity) and both speak to prophets without a notion of God taking human form.

 

[columbus]

Catholics don't understand the 'ROMAN' part of Catholicism.

I'm a Catholic. Feel free to explain what you mean by that.
Tom

 

[herushura]

It's the Quranic version of the Noah story. There is nothing about babies but about sinners and idol worshipers.
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Plagiarism

 

[herushura]

I'm a Catholic. Feel free to explain what you mean by that.
Tom

exactly, Catholics are illiterate when it comes to Roman history, they know absolutely nothing,.

 

[sun rise]

Speak to the Prophet Muhammad


Plagiarism

Plagiarism is a modern "sin". Before say 200 years ago it was very much accepted practice.

For example: Shakespeare stole most of his historical plots directly from Holinshed...."When Brahms wrote his first symphony, he was accused of having used a big theme from Beethoven's Ninth. His reply was that any fool could see that." A history of plagiarism (not my own work)

 

[icehorse]

Plagiarism is a modern "sin". Before say 200 years ago it was very much accepted practice.

For example: Shakespeare stole most of his historical plots directly from Holinshed...."When Brahms wrote his first symphony, he was accused of having used a big theme from Beethoven's Ninth. His reply was that any fool could see that." A history of plagiarism (not my own work)

I'm not 100% sure I understand the OP, but it seems to me that the idea of plagiarism is pretty central to it, no?

 

[sun rise]

I'm not 100% sure I understand the OP, but it seems to me that the idea of plagiarism is pretty central to it, no?

The OP is a bit confusing to me as well. But I don't see anything about plagiarism in it. Besides which, the idea of plagiarism is not about repeating truth but copying creative works. How many biographies of Lincoln are there? Are all but the first going to be called plagiarism? Not unless the words were copied. In this sense, if you believe that Noah existed and something catastrophic happened during his life, repeating that in different language is not plagiarism.

 

[Indagator]

Matthew 7:7 perhaps.

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"

 

[icehorse]

In this sense, if you believe that Noah existed and something catastrophic happened during his life, repeating that in different language is not plagiarism.

That's a really interesting perspective. I guess maybe it gets back to the intention of the writer. My sense has always been that the writer(s) of the Quran needed some more material.

 

[Erebus]

If your religion has a similar meaning, tell us
If your religion does not have that meaning - ask yourself why

Hmm, let's see.

Okay, so with my personal brand of Paganism there's a really good way of meeting the gods. What you do is go out into the countryside and take a nice, long walk. My gods are in the air, the soil and the trees. They're in the interplay of predator and prey, life and death and everything that makes nature both beautiful and terrible.

Now here's the best bit, you'll like this.

Let's say that you finish your walk and you think to yourself, "Actually, I don't think I really experienced the gods there. I don't believe in them at all." Well, guess what? It doesn't matter! They won't mind a jot. They certainly won't be inclined to punish you for your disbelief.

You'll also have got out in the fresh air and got some exercise. All in all, I'd say that's not half bad for a religious service, eh?

 

[columbus]

exactly, Catholics are illiterate when it comes to Roman history, they know absolutely nothing,.

Thanks for sharing.
Tom

 

[danieldemol]

I will review some of the meanings found in the Koran
If your religion has a similar meaning, tell us
If your religion does not have that meaning - ask yourself why

1-If my slaves ask about me, then I will answer the question of the questioner if he asks me

The meaning
God says
If people ask where I am, tell them I'm close to them, just ask me and I'll answer them

"Know thou, verily it is becoming in a weak one to supplicate to the Strong One, and it behooveth a seeker of bounty to beseech the Glorious Bountiful One. When one supplicates to his Lord, turns to Him and seeks bounty from His Ocean, this supplication brings light to his heart, illumination to his sight, life to his soul and exaltation to his being."
~Baha'i writings

 

[sayak83]

I will review some of the meanings found in the Koran
If your religion has a similar meaning, tell us
If your religion does not have that meaning - ask yourself why

1-If my slaves ask about me, then I will answer the question of the questioner if he asks me

The meaning
God says
If people ask where I am, tell them I'm close to them, just ask me and I'll answer them

OK. Your English is bad, not a fault,, but does make your posts difficult to understand.
The part you quoted comes from the Cow Surah 2:186

186[Prophet], if My servants ask you
about Me, I am near. I respond to those who call Me, so let them
respond to Me, and believe in Me, so that they may be guided.

Similar verses from Gita.

GITA chapter 6 verse 30

He who sees Me everywhere,
And sees all things in Me;
I am not lost to him,
And he is not lost to Me.

Gita Chapter 9 verse 26-29

‘Who with devotion offers me 26
a leaf or flower, water, fruit
I will taste from that steadfast self,
anything devoutly offered.


‘Let anything done or tasted, 27
anything given or endured,
O Son of Kunti, be transformed
into an offering to me!

‘Thus freed from the bonds of action, 28
and from its good and evil fruit,
self-disciplined by self-denial, delivered,
you will come to me.

‘I am the same in all beings, 29
and dislike none and none hold dear,
but those devout in my worship
are within me and I in them.

 

[Shiranui117]

Catholics don't understand the 'ROMAN' part of Catholicism.

Roman Catholic Church =/= Catholic Church. You also have the Ruthenian Catholíc Church, Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church, Armenian Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, Ge'ez Catholic Church, Coptic Catholic Church, Syro-Malabar Catholic Church, Syro-Malankar Catholic Church, Chaldean Catholic Church... The Roman Church is only one part of the larger Catholic Church, which embraces all ancient traditions of Christianity, East and West.

 

[herushura]

Catholicism is dressed in Roman drapes , all the others are derivatives traced back to the original founded in Rome in 45 BCE.

 

[Socratic Berean]

Both Judaism and Islam are...without a notion of God taking human form.

How do you interpret the theophany in Genesis 13?

 

[Shiranui117]

Catholicism is dressed in Roman drapes , all the others are derivatives traced back to the original founded in Rome in 45 BCE.

You mean aside from the fact that Christianity arose in the Levant and spread through Asia Minor decades before it hit Rome, and that almost all the development in Christian worship, practice, thought, theology and liturgy arose in the East in places like Cappadocia, Syria and Egypt?

For the first four hundred years of Christianity's existence, Rome was small fry compared to the churches in Alexandria, Antioch, Constantinople, Caesarea (and later Jerusalem). It was isolated from the other loci in the East, and due to the language barrier between Greek and Latin, was often largely left out of many of the theological discussions of the day. There's a reason that Augustine is about the only Church Father the Latins can name: He was about the only big-time theologian Rome had. Of course you have a few others like Ambrose, Pope Leo and Jerome, but that was just about all the Church of Rome had to offer until the Scholastic period.

 

[Socratic Berean]

Christianity and Islam are the same religion, different script.

Different scripts produce entirely different plays; similarities here are superficial, at best. If you explain to a Muslim the foundational tenets of Christianity--that it is possible to have a personal relationship with God, that God has a "son," and that people must accept and worship this son (as part of a trinity construct) to be saved--you would be viewed as offensive and heretical in more moderate environments, and you may not survive the encounter in more "orthodox" locales.

 

[Socratic Berean]

Christianity was designed to appeal to the Greco-Roman pagans.

Who did the designing?

 

[sun rise]

How do you interpret the theophany in Genesis 13?

I don't follow Jewish, Christian or Islamic doctrine personally. But in the Jewish or Muslim belief, God or angels speak to prophets which Genesis 13 speaks to.