This is the Koran, what about the others

[moon light]

"Know thou, verily it is becoming in a weak one to supplicate to the Strong One, and it behooveth a seeker of bounty to beseech the Glorious Bountiful One. When one supplicates to his Lord, turns to Him and seeks bounty from His Ocean, this supplication brings light to his heart, illumination to his sight, life to his soul and exaltation to his being."
~Baha'i writings

Great, thank you

 

[moon light]

OK. Your English is bad, not a fault,, but does make your posts difficult to understand.
The part you quoted comes from the Cow Surah 2:186

186[Prophet], if My servants ask you
about Me, I am near. I respond to those who call Me, so let them
respond to Me, and believe in Me, so that they may be guided.

Similar verses from Gita.

GITA chapter 6 verse 30

He who sees Me everywhere,
And sees all things in Me;
I am not lost to him,
And he is not lost to Me.

Gita Chapter 9 verse 26-29

‘Who with devotion offers me 26
a leaf or flower, water, fruit
I will taste from that steadfast self,
anything devoutly offered.


‘Let anything done or tasted, 27
anything given or endured,
O Son of Kunti, be transformed
into an offering to me!

‘Thus freed from the bonds of action, 28
and from its good and evil fruit,
self-disciplined by self-denial, delivered,
you will come to me.

‘I am the same in all beings, 29
and dislike none and none hold dear,
but those devout in my worship
are within me and I in them.

Great, thank you

 

[moon light]

Hmm, let's see.

Okay, so with my personal brand of Paganism there's a really good way of meeting the gods. What you do is go out into the countryside and take a nice, long walk. My gods are in the air, the soil and the trees. They're in the interplay of predator and prey, life and death and everything that makes nature both beautiful and terrible.

Now here's the best bit, you'll like this.

Let's say that you finish your walk and you think to yourself, "Actually, I don't think I really experienced the gods there. I don't believe in them at all." Well, guess what? It doesn't matter! They won't mind a jot. They certainly won't be inclined to punish you for your disbelief.

You'll also have got out in the fresh air and got some exercise. All in all, I'd say that's not half bad for a religious service, eh?

well this is your experience and not feeling the God depends on your sincerity with you

 

[moon light]

Now another meaning in the Koran

quran 49:13

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you

 

[Magus]

How do you explain diversity with incest?

 

[moon light]

How do you explain diversity with incest?

Although this is out of the debate, but Islam is not an incest

 

[Magus]

Allah created one man and one woman then forced them together, they had children, who did they have sex with? Incest causes genetic damage and infertility, Allah's incest experiment wouldn't of worked, Incest and Polygamy pretty common motif , Abraham and his wives, Isaac's wife was his cousin, Jacob's wives are his cousins and Muhammad with his many many many wives including a nine year old.

Since Allah is supposed to be omnipresent, maybe he created Adam and Eve to watch them have sex to satisfy his own sexual needs.

 

[moon light]

Allah created one man and one woman then forced them together, they had children, who did they have sex with? Incest causes genetic damage and infertility, Allah's incest experiment wouldn't of worked, Incest and Polygamy pretty common motif , Abraham and his wives, Isaac's wife was his cousin, Jacob's wives are his cousins and Muhammad with his many many many wives including a nine year old.

Since Allah is supposed to be omnipresent, maybe he created Adam and Eve to watch them have sex to satisfy his own sexual needs.

You have a big misunderstanding

quran 7:189

 

[sun rise]

I have studied three different translations. Two of them in a limited way, mainly to compare and contrast specific passages. The third I studied cover to cover, and I picked that one because as I understand it, it's the translation that's been reprinted the most in the world (about 270 million copies have been printed(?)).

I'm a little bit interested in the history. I'm VERY interested in what's true in 2017, which is why I picked the most popular translation, that's the one that's getting read.

I've approached it a different way reading many different translations of individual passages and focusing as I'm able on possible esoteric understanding Esoteric interpretation of the Quran - Wikipedia

 

[danieldemol]

Now another meaning in the Koran

quran 49:13

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you

"O my loving friends! Consort with all the peoples, kindreds and religions of the world with the utmost truthfulness, uprightness, faithfulness, kindliness, good-will and friendliness, ...
...that ignorance, enmity, hate and rancor may vanish from the world and the darkness of estrangement amidst the peoples and kindreds of the world may give way to the Light of Unity"~Baha'i Writing

 

[moon light]

"O my loving friends! Consort with all the peoples, kindreds and religions of the world with the utmost truthfulness, uprightness, faithfulness, kindliness, good-will and friendliness, ...
...that ignorance, enmity, hate and rancor may vanish from the world and the darkness of estrangement amidst the peoples and kindreds of the world may give way to the Light of Unity"~Baha'i Writing

Great, thank you

 

[Muffled]

I will review some of the meanings found in the Koran
If your religion has a similar meaning, tell us
If your religion does not have that meaning - ask yourself why

1-If my slaves ask about me, then I will answer the question of the questioner if he asks me

The meaning
God says
If people ask where I am, tell them I'm close to them, just ask me and I'll answer them

ASV Bible
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask anything in my name, that will I do.
15 ¶ If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever,
17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.

 

[Muffled]

"O my loving friends! Consort with all the peoples, kindreds and religions of the world with the utmost truthfulness, uprightness, faithfulness, kindliness, good-will and friendliness, ...
...that ignorance, enmity, hate and rancor may vanish from the world and the darkness of estrangement amidst the peoples and kindreds of the world may give way to the Light of Unity"~Baha'i Writing

ASV Bible
1Co 15:45 So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

 

[Muffled]

Where does that say anything about babies? Islam believes that babies are innocent and believe in God.

I believe a wicked society will have children in it. The implication is that all that drowned including children were wicked so that speaks more clearly than some Islamic foolish belief.

 

[moon light]

ASV Bible
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask anything in my name, that will I do.
15 ¶ If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever,
17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.

good

 

[moon light]

Now another meaning in the Koran

quran 17:85

85. They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you,

 

[moon light]

Now another meaning in the Koran

quran 17:85

85. They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you,

If they ask about the spirit
Tell them that the Spirit is the command of God
And knowledge of you so few

 

[Muffled]

Now another meaning in the Koran

quran 17:85

85. They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you,

I believe this has to be taken in Context:
84. Say: "Everyone acts according to his own disposition: But your Lord knows best who it is that is best guided on the Way."

85. They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"

86. If it were Our Will, We could take away that which We have sent thee by inspiration:then wouldst thou find none to plead thy affair in that matter as against Us,-

I believe the issue here is that Christians are claiming they have superior knowledge because they have the Paraclete. There is often a great deal of deception and self deception in that. So I think this verse is comparable:

1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

 

[LuisDantas]

You have a big misunderstanding

quran 7:189

I am not seeing any misunderstanding. Maybe you can point it out in your own words?

 

[moon light]

I believe this has to be taken in Context:
84. Say: "Everyone acts according to his own disposition: But your Lord knows best who it is that is best guided on the Way."

85. They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: "The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)"

86. If it were Our Will, We could take away that which We have sent thee by inspiration:then wouldst thou find none to plead thy affair in that matter as against Us,-

I believe the issue here is that Christians are claiming they have superior knowledge because they have the Paraclete. There is often a great deal of deception and self deception in that. So I think this verse is comparable:

1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but prove the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

The serenity is completely different from the Holy Spirit in Christianity