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Thousands of Pedophiles Released from California Prisons After Less than a Year: Report

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WTH is going on?

Thousands of Pedophiles Released from California Prisons After Less than a Year: Report

'More than 7,000 pedophiles convicted of “lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age” were released from California prisons the same year they were convicted, according to the Daily Mail.

The crimes included child rape, continuous sexual abuse of a child, sodomy with a child under 16 and kidnapping a child under 14 “with intent to commit lewd or lascivious acts,” according to the Daily Mail. The outlet analyzed data on thousands of convicts in California’s Megan’s Law database and found that individuals convicted of sexually abusing children were serving only months in jail or prison; Megan’s law requires that certain information about convicted sex offenders be made public.

“Statistics clearly show that pedophiles don’t get reformed. They’re going to come out and they’re going to commit again,” former Los Angeles sex crimes prosecutor Samuel Dordulian told the outlet. “Letting these people out early, we’re allowing for a lot more victimization. And that’s terrifying.”

Lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age,” was the most common crime in the database, committed 19,441 times, with an average time served of two years and 11 months, according to the Daily Mail; 7,152 people convicted of this crime served less than a year.

Proposition 57, a 2016 bill allowing early parole for nonviolent offenders which was supported by Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon, is to blame for this string of early releases, Deputy DA Jon Hatami told the Daily Mail.

“Thousands of child victims are being denied justice and George Gascón and his group of radical prosecutors can care less,” Hatami told the outlet.

Thousands of Pedophiles Released from California Prisons After Less than a Year: Report - Tennessee Star
 

Aštra’el

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There are certain crimes for which the world would objectively become a better place if the criminals committing them were no longer among the living.

Some cultures understand that.
 

The Sum of Awe

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There are certain crimes for which the world would objectively become a better place if the criminals committing them were no longer among the living.

Some cultures understand that.
Killing child molesters wouldn't keep pedophiles from being born, but it would keep pedophiles with urges from getting help which would prevent more child rape.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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Killing child molesters wouldn't keep pedophiles from being born, but it would keep pedophiles with urges from getting help which would prevent more child rape.
We're talking about criminals who have already committed the crime. Rapists should be executed, same as murderers.

I see no evidence that people are "born" pedos, either. It's not a sexual orientation and we damn sure don't need to try to normalize it as one.
 

The Sum of Awe

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We're talking about criminals who have already committed the crime. Rapists should be executed, same as murderers.

I see no evidence that people are "born" pedos, either. It's not a sexual orientation and we damn sure don't need to try to normalize it as one.
Regardless if they are born pedophiles or not, it's a paraphilia that somehow develops, and not all pedophiles act on those urges. It's like a mental illness and it should be treated like one. If you're to execute people for immoral actions, what good is that for those who have urges for immoral actions but are trying to resist it? It would make more people who have these urges afraid of getting help afraid of being demonized by society for having these urges in the first place.

I think the confusing part of it is the tendency of people to call child molesters pedos, and saying 'pedophiles should be executed' rather than 'rapists should be executed'. There is certainly a difference.
 

Revoltingest

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Before y'all get fired up about executing people
for heinous crimes, remember that corrupt &
incompetent cops, prosecutors, accusers, judges,
& juries convict many innocent people.
Wrongful convictions do get over-turned...if they're
still alive.
McMartin preschool trial - Wikipedia
Martensville satanic sex scandal - Wikipedia
35 Times Men Were Falsely Accused Of Sexual Assault | The Daily Wire
How an innocent man spent 16 years in prison for raping author of Lovely Bones
The list goes on & on.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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Regardless if they are born pedophiles or not, it's a paraphilia that somehow develops, and not all pedophiles act on those urges. It's like a mental illness and it should be treated like one. If you're to execute people for immoral actions, what good is that for those who have urges for immoral actions but are trying to resist it? It would make more people who have these urges afraid of getting help afraid of being demonized by society for having these urges in the first place.

I think the confusing part of it is the tendency of people to call child molesters pedos, and saying 'pedophiles should be executed' rather than 'rapists should be executed'. There is certainly a difference.
Like I said before, we're talking about convicted criminals. Not people who haven't offended.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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Where do you believe it comes from then?
Who knows. A perverted mind, a messed up environment, underlying condition like psychopathy, etc. People who are sexually abused are more likely to abuse others, too. There's different things that can cause bizarre sexual attractions. Literally anything under the sun you can think of, someone gets off on it.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

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Before y'all get fired up about executing people
for heinous crimes, remember that corrupt &
incompetent cops, prosecutors, accusers, judges,
& juries convict many innocent people.
Wrongful convictions do get over-turned...if they're
still alive.
McMartin preschool trial - Wikipedia
Martensville satanic sex scandal - Wikipedia
35 Times Men Were Falsely Accused Of Sexual Assault | The Daily Wire
How an innocent man spent 16 years in prison for raping author of Lovely Bones
The list goes on & on.
Didn't they end up discovering the hidden tunnels under that school that the kids said were there, years later or whatever it was?
 

PureX

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C'Mon, man! It's the Tennessee Star. With an advertisement for Steve Bannon and Kari Lake right next to the headline. Let's not be THIS stupid.
 

Saint Frankenstein

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C'Mon, man! It's the Tennessee Star. With an advertisement for Steve Bannon and Kari Lake right next to the headline. Let's not be THIS stupid.
Just because it's from a conservative source, doesn't mean it's fake. Sick of people pulling that card just to try to handwave away things they don't want to hear. It happens all too often on this site, and from the usual suspects. If we're supposed to accept CNN, MSNBC, WashPo, Huffington Post, etc. as "credible" sources of news, y'all can extend the same courtesy.
 

The Sum of Awe

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In the future their will be no criminals. Rape, murder, child molestation, theft, etc will all be considered a mental illness. IMO thats seems where its all headed
Good, then perhaps we could put more effort into rehabilitation instead of punishment and execution.
 

SkepticThinker

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Who knows. A perverted mind, a messed up environment, underlying condition like psychopathy, etc. People who are sexually abused are more likely to abuse others, too. There's different things that can cause bizarre sexual attractions. Literally anything under the sun you can think of, someone gets off on it.
Hm, interesting. Do you think homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual people are born that way or does this apply to them as well?
 

SkepticThinker

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Didn't they end up discovering the hidden tunnels under that school that the kids said were there, years later or whatever it was?
"The McMartin Preschool child abuse case began in 1983 in Manhattan Beach, California, and was one of the most visible cases in history. Although two trials were conducted and no convictions were obtained, some individuals continue to believe that dozens of children were sexually abused at the preschool. In 1990 an archeologist was hired to determine whether tunnels had existed under the school because some of the children had alleged that some of their abuse took place in tunnels under the building. The archeologist's report was issued in 1993. It concluded that evidence of back-filled tunnels had been found. This critical analysis of the archeologist's report concludes otherwise, that what the archeologist found was actually the filled-in remains of a rural family's trash pit that pre-dated construction of the school. Regarding artifacts discovered in soil under the preschool, alternative interpretations to those of the archeologist are given. A theoretical functional analysis of the variables that may have accounted for the archeologist's evident misinterpretation is presented. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2019 APA, all rights reserved)"
APA PsycNet

"Thus, I obtained a copy of the report and reviewed it. Finishing my review, a
more plausible conclusion than that of the archeologist emerged—that evidence of
filled-in tunnels had not been found. Rather, Stickel had found a family trash pit of
the type that was, and is, often dug on the property of rural homeowners.
Often such a pit is dug by hand. Old bottles, tin cans, table scraps, metal objects and
other trash are disposed of in the pit. Combustible refuse is sometimes burned in
the pit. When the pit is nearly full, a new pit is dug in the space beside the first pit,
with its dirt used to cover the first pit. When the second pit is filled with trash it is
then covered with dirt as a third is dug, and so on until, over many years, a string
of pits has been dug, each filled with trash, and covered with a thin layer of soil.
This string of covered pits might later give the appearance of having once been a
tunnel. This, most likely, was the archeologist’s discovery.
As I reviewed Stickel’s report there were many details, large and small, to
support the conclusion that Stickel had found a string of old trash pits, rather than
tunnels. ..."
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.5210/bsi.v12i1.77.pdf
 

Saint Frankenstein

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Hm, interesting. Do you think homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual people are born that way or does this apply to them as well?
I think sexual orientation is a modern social construct and that labels such as straight/hetero, gay/homo, bisexual, etc. are more social identities than immutable characteristics, although obviously things like hormones and other biological factors can play a role. I view it as humans being born with sexual potentials and environment, culture, etc. has a big impact on how it's manifested. It's like how it was expected that men will be bisexual in ancient Greece and Rome, but in our culture, male bisexuality is a taboo and hardly any men will admit to even feeling that way.
 

PureX

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Do you actually read these? Because something is not adding up. And most of is it just blatantly slandering democrats by clearly biased and very questionable "news" sources.

"Bill 3234, lowered the age threshold for “elderly parole” from 60 to 50, creating a loophole that allows violent sex offenders to be eligible for “elderly parole” after serving only 20 years."

"Bill 3055 and allowed every person who is over 50 years old who has served more than 20 years in prison to get a parole hearing."

Regardless of where in the country we're talking about, or which party is in charge, who is going to pay the many millions of dollars it would take to keep sex offenders locked up indefinitely? Or are you suggesting that we just kill them all?
 
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