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Thousands of Pedophiles Released from California Prisons After Less than a Year: Report

We Never Know

No Slack
Regardless if they are born pedophiles or not, it's a paraphilia that somehow develops, and not all pedophiles act on those urges. It's like a mental illness and it should be treated like one. If you're to execute people for immoral actions, what good is that for those who have urges for immoral actions but are trying to resist it? It would make more people who have these urges afraid of getting help afraid of being demonized by society for having these urges in the first place.

I think the confusing part of it is the tendency of people to call child molesters pedos, and saying 'pedophiles should be executed' rather than 'rapists should be executed'. There is certainly a difference.

"It's like a mental illness and it should be treated like one"

If you think pedophilia(sexual feelings directed toward children) is a mental illness, are there other sexual actions that you think are caused by mental illness?
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Just because it's from a conservative source, doesn't mean it's fake. Sick of people pulling that card just to try to handwave away things they don't want to hear. It happens all too often on this site, and from the usual suspects. If we're supposed to accept CNN, MSNBC, WashPo, Huffington Post, etc. as "credible" sources of news, y'all can extend the same courtesy.
If those "conservative sources" weren't lying most of the time, people wouldn't "pull that card" so often.

Every source listed is a blatant mouth piece for right wingnut hatred of all things California and all things democrat. Not to mention when you try to actually read these "reports" their supposed facts don't make any sense and no possible explanation is ever given. It's all accusation and no real substance.
 
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The Sum of Awe

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"It's like a mental illness and it should be treated like one"

If you think pedophilia(sexual feelings directed toward children) is a mental illness, are there other sexual actions that you think are caused by mental illness?
Likely any paraphilia, but I'm no scientist.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Do you actually read these? Because something is not adding up. And most of is it just blatantly slandering democrats by clearly biased and very questionable "news" sources.

"Bill 3234, lowered the age threshold for “elderly parole” from 60 to 50, creating a loophole that allows violent sex offenders to be eligible for “elderly parole” after serving only 20 years."

"Bill 3055 and allowed every person who is over 50 years old who has served more than 20 years in prison to get a parole hearing."

Regardless of where in the country we're talking about, or which party is in charge, who is going to pay the many millions of dollars it would take to keep sex offenders locked up indefinitely? Or are you suggesting that we just kill them all?

lol "its all a conspiracy to destroy the democrats"

You sound like MAGA's but from the dems side:rolleyes:
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I think sexual orientation is a modern social construct and that labels such as straight/hetero, gay/homo, bisexual, etc. are more social identities than immutable characteristics, although obviously things like hormones and other biological factors can play a role. I view it as humans being born with sexual potentials and environment, culture, etc. has a big impact on how it's manifested. It's like how it was expected that men will be bisexual in ancient Greece and Rome, but in our culture, male bisexuality is a taboo and hardly any men will admit to even feeling that way.
Thank you for sharing your perspective.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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Premium Member
"It's like a mental illness and it should be treated like one"

If you think pedophilia(sexual feelings directed toward children) is a mental illness, are there other sexual actions that you think are caused by mental illness?

There are mental disorders that can underlie certain sexual desires. They often fall within the category of paraphilias, but that category itself has been revised multiple times in the past. Necrophilia is one example of a paraphilia:

Necrophilia - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

I don't see prevention of crime as mutually exclusive with linking some of it to specific mental issues. In my opinion, judicial systems should prioritize rehabilitation and prevention over retribution.

If the story in the OP is true, though, I think releasing thousands of convicted pedophiles at once or within a small interval is irresponsible and dangerous. I'm not sure how true it is or whether it even happened in the way the Daily Mail has reported, though.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
lol "its all a conspiracy to destroy the democrats"

You sound like MAGA's but from the dems side:rolleyes:
And you're claiming that for no reason at all the government of California (all of them democrats) decided to let thousands of convicted pedophiles out of jail after serving only a few months.

And yet the only civil codes cited as allowing this referred to criminals that have already served 20+ years and were over the age of 50. So something is clearly not adding up, here. And of course you are completely ignoring this, because the right wingnut echo chamber must be always be right, right? So long as they are telling you what you want to gear.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
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Thank you for sharing your perspective.
You're welcome.

Basically, I see no reason to believe that anyone comes out of the womb wired to want to have sex with children. It's an aberration, and seems to usually be caused by the person being abused themselves or an anti-social/sadistic disorder. Pedophilia makes zero sense to have evolved like a normal sexual attractions because there's no benefit to it to the individual or to communities from it. We know it causes severe psychological damage to the child, even if they're told it's acceptable. A child is just not set up in any way or form to handle sex at all. They haven't even gone through puberty. Pedophilia can never be placed alongside orientations like heterosexuality or homosexuality for that reason.

Obviously, most of us are naturally inclined towards hetero sexual relationships with adults, and that just makes obvious sense for the species to continue. However, there's evidence that homosexuality is also a natural inclination that has benefits to the individual and community. So the matter of which sex(es) you're attracted to seems a rather neutral issue. Totally different issue than adults and children.
 

danieldemol

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Premium Member
It's an aberration, and seems to usually be caused by the person being abused themselves or an anti-social/sadistic disorder.
Neither of which is the fault of the pedophile.

They either drew the short environmental straw to be abused or drew the short genetic straw for antisocial mutations and some people want to kill them for it instead of seeking to rehabilitate them.

Which is not very compassionate considering any one of us could have been the ones to draw the short straw under different circumstances.

In my opinion.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Neither of which is the fault of the pedophile.

They either drew the short environmental straw to be abused or drew the short genetic straw for antisocial mutations and some people want to kill them for it instead of seeking to rehabilitate them.

Which is not very compassionate considering any one of us could have been the ones to draw the short straw under different circumstances.

In my opinion.
Yeah, no. Don't try that "this could be you or me" garbage. Would you be a serial killer? Torture puppies to death? Maybe in another life? :rolleyes: At the end of the day, we all choose who we want to be. These people are severely sick in the head and need serious help, not to be made to feel like victims. They are dangerous people and a danger to society. I'm sure you wouldn't say this crap about people who have a compulsion to torture and murder. It's great if they realize the depths of their degradation and voluntarily seek help, but they are still a danger to society while holding such impulses.

And no one is talking about killing or executing people who haven't committed a crime, at least not I, so stop with the straw manning.
 
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danieldemol

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Yeah, no. Don't try that "this could be you or me" garbage. Would you be a serial killer? Torture puppies to death? Maybe in another life? :rolleyes: At the end of the day, we all choose who we want to be.
I wasn't given a choice of who I wanted to be.

These people are severely sick in the head and need serious help
How is killing them helping them?

They are dangerous people and a danger to society.
Sure, until they are safely imprisoned.

I'm sure you wouldn't say this crap about people who have a compulsion to torture and murder.
Then you dont know me very well apparently.

And no one is talking about killing or executing people who haven't committed a crime, at least not I, so stop with the straw manning.
Considering I never mentioned people who have not committed a crime the straw man is all your own. I can't see why having committed a crime makes a difference because I'm unconvinced of free will.

In my opinion.
 
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